I would imagine its a catch-22 . . . it probably takes a couple years for your image to catch up with your reality. And of course to change the image you would need to change the reality.

But you can't attract the new members you need because of your image. And you don't want to hide/lose the members that give you the bad image . . . Checkmate.

I am glad you shared this experience, but just because none of my suggestions worked in your chapter's case, does not mean that they can NEVER work in any situation.

James:
No idea why you said checkmate, buddy.

No, but we can cite tons of examples where they didn't, and none where they did.

Trapped unable to move and in jeopardy . . . game over so to speak . . .

I am not in a sorority but know a few girls on them . . anyway I haven't seen this stuff work where formal recruitment is virtually the only way that the sororities get their numbers . . . on chapters where COOR is more important . . . it may work better.

Remember that Formal Recruitment, isn't really recruitment . . .

No, not really game over.

Why is everyone so obsessed with being right? Can you not handle the fact that someone might have a different opinion than you? Are you that horrified that the way you deal with a certain situation may, indeed, be incorrect?

Here's the deal though, James: at the campuses that we're talking about, for the most part formal is the only recruitment.

In the NPC system of recruitment where you use quota and chapter total as a means of leveling the playing field and maximizing girls' opportunities to pledge (which seems like the spirit of it to me), all the chapters are expected to get the number of girls they can during formal recruitment "quota", and the chapter total amount is usually slightly less than four years worth of quota (there are different ways to figure it).

The only groups that COB/COR are the groups who were unable to have quota number of bids accepted during formal recruitment or that are under chapter total even after taking quota in formal.

Basically the very fact that you are COB/CORing at these type campuses contributes to your image/reputation problems since only chapters that didn't get quota in formal are participating and that makes you seem less desirable. With chapter total, it depends on the year. In a year where total was adjusted upwards, a lot of groups will be participating in COR/COB despite having recruited to quota in previous years because it will represent the first opportunity that they can. But in most years, it seems to reflect a membership problem relative to other groups.

I think you're misunderstanding his point, but I could be wrong. He's basically seeing how hard it is to solve the image problem at some campuses. I don't even think he's talking to you particularly.

Do you see what I mean in that context, KathyKD?

I understand the concept but I disagree with the application or the approach to the situation. :) Agree to disagree.

Que?

No, I agree completely.

Shut the hell up already... Enough...

You know if you timed that just right. . .

hahahahha

All I've seen in this thread is...

SEC: Blah blah fat girls ruin our reputation and formal recruitment

Normal campuses: Our sisterhood is more important than getting superficial new members.

DONE. Lol see no one has to read the whole thread anymore.