33, I think you have an apprentice! ;)

That would be unfair IMO. Could you maybe say limit spaces to total and then only go over if all groups are at total? However that brings up the issue of women who would rather not be in a sorority if the only choice is a smaller group.

I didn't say I agreed with it, I just said that it was. Ohio State apparently has a reason for doing things this way, I don't know enough about the campus to say whether it's rational or full of poo.

I understand -- I was just pointing out the diction! :)

I'm very happy to report that as of the end of 2007, Theta Phi Alpha at Creighton had regained recognition from the university. They recently completed their first informal recruitment, finishing with 27 pledge sisters. Congrats to the ladies of Chi chapter on their hard work & a job well done!

Would something like this work? Bid to total and then anything above it would factored into the quota?

For example, 4 chapters with house total at 100.

Start of formal recruitment

ABC: 70 returning members
DEF: 75 returning members
TUV: 80 returning members
XYZ: 85 returning members

The quota needed to get each chapter to total would be as follows.

ABC: 30
DEF: 25
TUV: 20
XYZ: 15

100 PNMs make it to the preference round. Now in theory, since all four chapters could only bid a total number of 90 women, this would mean 10 women would not receive a bid. However, something similar to "quota additions" would be factored into each chapter's quota. Take the remaining 10 PNMs and divide it by the 4 chapters. That would be 2.5. Round down to 2 and allow "quota additions" for the remaining two PNMs.

Thus the revised quota for each chapter would be as follows.

ABC: 32 (30 brings the chapter to total)
DEF: 27 (25 brings the chapter to total)
TUV: 22 (20 brings the chapter to total)
XYZ: 17 (15 brings the chapter to total)

^^ Now my head hurts :(

Nut, I'm a little biased coming from a small chapter. At my school, it seemed that groups who were large already (at total) got to keep going way over total by pledging quota every year which felt a little unfair to the smaller groups. Why set a quota at all if you keep allowing groups to go over it? The only consolation was that pledging quota often put them over total and thus, they couldn't technically participate in informal recruitment in the spring - though our campus Panhel usually allowed them to if they were losing seniors that May. Maybe our Panhel was just corrupt :(

Chapters that are smaller need to learn how to open rush and COB. If you keep dwelling on formal rush, and keep running your informal rush like formal rush, you'll never get anywhere.

TSteven - the glitch in your idea comes up when all 10 PNMs put the same 2 sororities at the top of their lists. Also, that's just bids GIVEN - not necessarily bids accepted. If 16 of those 32 women don't want to be in ABC it doesn't do them a damn bit of good.

33, as soon as I posted, I knew someone would say that. And I can't argue with that point at all - which is precisely what TLCs are for (among other things).

Like I said, I'm biased on this point coming from a smaller chapter and if I ever do become a badass Greek Advisor, I'll have to keep that in check ;):cool:

That wasn't directed at you only, I think there are LOTS of chapters who keep failing because they don't know their strengths. If you're smaller you can have a rush party with girls sitting around your house and actually meet them all. There are too many people who think rush always = formal rush, parties, bump groups, decorations etc etc etc.

33, I didn't think it was necessarily, I was just agreeing with you. And you're right on this point also and thankfully, my chapter didn't make that mistake. One of my favorite rush events was going to Cosi and making s'mores :) Nothing "formal" about that!

Yippee!

Denison University, Tri-Delta Pledge Class

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...sonTriDelt.jpg

Ohio Wesleyan, Delta Gamma Pledge Class
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c..._amg/DGOWU.jpg

Way to go for our Zeta Beta chapter! I miss working with them...