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adpimiz 11-03-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2187782)
It's not about living off of your upper class parents or denying that anyone has worked hard to earn what they have. It's about recognizing that that upper class background can provide advantages not available to everyone and possibly open doors not open to everyone.

That's not necessarily true.

thewasher418 11-04-2012 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by adpimiz (Post 2187784)
That's not necessarily true.

It's not always true, but think about it this way. Kid A comes from a single parent household, Mom has a high school diploma only and works at Family Dollar. Kid B grew up in a house with a lawyer mom and a doctor dad. Both kids can, through hard work, ace the SATs, make straight As and get into a great college, right? Right!

But Kid A didn't grow up in an environment where it's common knowledge that you should take the PSAT, study for the SAT and take it early. Let alone an environment where it's common knowledge that SAT tutors/courses are available. Kid A has not been exposed to professionals in social circles, and those differences in social norms stick out like a sore thumb in an interview situation. I could go on, but I don't want to write a novel.

I'm not much for entitlements but can you at least acknowledge that difference?

MysticCat 11-04-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by adpimiz (Post 2187784)
Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2187782)
It's not about living off of your upper class parents or denying that anyone has worked hard to earn what they have. It's about recognizing that that upper class background can provide advantages not available to everyone and possibly open doors not open to everyone.

That's not necessarily true.

You did note that I said "can" and "possibly"?

That said, I think it's fairly rare that it's not true, at least to some extent. And frankly, I think it's fairly common for people from more advantaged backgrounds not to realize, at least for a long time, just how much difference that background may have made.

AGDee 11-04-2012 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2187782)
It's not about living off of your upper class parents or denying that anyone has worked hard to earn what they have. It's about recognizing that that upper class background can provide advantages not available to everyone and possibly open doors not open to everyone.

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2187820)
You did note that I said "can" and "possibly"?

That said, I think it's fairly rare that it's not true, at least to some extent. And frankly, I think it's fairly common for people from more advantaged backgrounds not to realize, at least for a long time, just how much difference that background may have made.

I agree with all of this. And it can even be extended to prenatal care while your mom was pregnant with you, having more nutritious foods available to you making you healthier, living in areas where you don't lose sleep at night because of the gun shots in the streets, and being warm because the heat and electricity are on.

alum 11-04-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by APhi4Ever (Post 2187817)
I agree! I live in a swing state and I've never seen so many commercials in one day! I am Republican and voted as such.

Ditto with the phone calls. I decided about a week ago that everything was going to voicemail.

ThetaPrincess24 05-20-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 541026)
I am a republican-----I have voted independent (though rare), but NEVER democrat.

I do consider myself a more moderate republican in the sense that i do think there should be more stricter laws regarding the environment.

Other than that, I'm republican all the way, I support Ernie Fletcher for Kentucky Governor this year, I support George W. Bush, and especially our troops at home and abroad.

EEK! I've changed. I'm still a registered republican so I can vote in primaries, but I consider myself more libertarian these days. If the democrats put up a better candidate (as was the case with several offices in Kentucky this past election) I have no problem voting outside my party. I vote for the best candidate, not the party line. That is how dipsticks get elected.

maconmagnolia 05-20-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 2217944)
If the democrats put up a better candidate (as was the case with several offices in Kentucky this past election) I have no problem voting outside my party. I vote for the best candidate, not the party line. That is how dipsticks get elected.

I agree. I consider myself Republican/Libertarian. Fiscally very conservative, socially liberal/moderate (VERY pro gay-rights, pro-choice, pro-environment). However, economic issues tend to be more important to me, so I lean right. I really dislike the crazies on both sides of the spectrum.

nwmiss14 03-20-2016 07:36 PM

I am extremely liberal. I vote that way every time. I live in a fairly split location, leaning towards the red. I'm also a poli sci major. My professors are mostly liberal but i choose a very conservative advisor to get a more well rounded view.

NWguy 09-28-2016 04:54 PM

I've voted Republican most of my life, but have also leaned Democrat on a few occasions. This year I'm voting Third Party, and what's surprised me is the criticism I'm getting from my Democrat friends and colleagues, who've said everything from "a vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump" to "you're giving the election to a racist".

I've gotten zero criticism from my GOP friends.

BossLadyAKA 10-03-2016 11:19 AM

That's because they agree with your Democratic friends; they're just too savvy to say it.

ComradesTrue 10-03-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NWguy (Post 2420155)
I've voted Republican most of my life, but have also leaned Democrat on a few occasions. This year I'm voting Third Party, and what's surprised me is the criticism I'm getting from my Democrat friends and colleagues, who've said everything from "a vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump" to "you're giving the election to a racist".

I've gotten zero criticism from my GOP friends.

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Originally Posted by BossLadyAKA (Post 2420505)
That's because they agree with your Democratic friends; they're just too savvy to say it.

BossLady is correct.

Tom Earp 01-02-2020 03:45 PM

WOW, this has not been up dated in a really long time???

Look at what is going on in OUR COUNTRY so, is anyone besides me upset with all of the Shinola that has me been going on???:mad:

What happened to The Three Branches of The Government?

If Trump did nothing illegal, why not let his people testify?

Is The NEWs reporting the NEWs or MAKING IT?

Is there a need for a 3 rd Major Party?
Do not mean like the clucks from from the tea bag party, LMAO!

Rod D 01-02-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 2472378)
WOW, this has not been up dated in a really long time???

Look at what is going on in OUR COUNTRY so, is anyone besides me upset with all of the Shinola that has me been going on???:mad:

What happened to The Three Branches of The Government?

If Trump did nothing illegal, why not let his people testify?

Is The NEWs reporting the NEWs or MAKING IT?

Is there a need for a 3 rd Major Party?
Do not mean like the clucks from from the tea bag party, LMAO!

Sorry can't resist.

What happened to The Three Branches of The Government? Working perfectly fine. All at odds, bitching at each other -- Since the beginning of our time.

If Trump did nothing illegal, why not let his people testify? Executive privilege is very import. The Pres. has be able to talk crazy chit to his immediate staff -- i.e.; brainstorming, goofy policy ideas, etc. Let the courts decide -- see answer above.

I'll leave the others alone. :)


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