GreekChat.com Forums - Embarrsing another GDI wearing Greek Shirts

Page 21 of 24

« First

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

GreekChat.com Forums (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/index.php)

- Greek Life (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/forumdisplay.php?f=24)

- - Embarrsing another GDI wearing Greek Shirts (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=18152)

katydidKD

08-09-2011 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2077873)

Gotcha. Just sincerely curious though, what's the difference between "Rush ABC" and "Go ABC"? Isn't the implication the same? I think I'm splitting hairs, but I'm genuinely curious if there's a line crossed...?

I see what you're saying. I can see if this became as widespread on my campus as it is on the ones you mentioned it being a problem with panhellenic (go or rush) and resulting in infractions.

DrPhil--- yes its problematic, but it does attract PNM's, and shirley1929's explanation pretty much covers it. Goes both ways though, and is wayyyy more outright with fraternities (who do make shirts, for girls, that say RUSH ABC) and is not a problem with IFC, nor will be (with the IFC on my campus). One fraternity actually made pink AA v-necks that said SE(sigma)XY (sigma chi) for girls of their choice.

DrPhil

08-09-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2077876)

Swerve anytime you like!

I would guess the thinking has multiple layers...1) It's more people that can wear your letters on multiple occasions (its not like the shirts can be given to other women outside of XYZ, so 50% of the student body is out) and 2) The PNM's are coming to town for orientation and will hopefully see Joe cute Frat Guy who happens to be in summer school wearing that shirt. It beats the heck out of a flyer on a tree on campus, that's for sure!

Now, the other side of it is drunk barfing frat guy wearing your shirt and being a general nuisance...I'm guessing he gets his stripped off of him posthaste. :cool:

Clearly the pros must outweigh the cons, because it's been going on for decades at these places.

Thanks for responding. I truly do not see the pros but this isn't my lane so there is a lot that I do not know. :p

How do you all know that this is working? Do PNMs tell you all that they "discovered" NPC sororities because of these shirts on men? You all don't think that kind of sucks that they "discovered" NPC sororities via tshirts on men?

DrPhil

08-09-2011 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2077880)

DrPhil--- yes its problematic, but it does attract PNM's, and shirley1929's explanation pretty much covers it. Goes both ways though, and is wayyyy more outright with fraternities (who do make shirts, for girls, that say RUSH ABC) and is not a problem with IFC, nor will be (with the IFC on my campus). One fraternity actually made pink AA v-necks that said SE(sigma)XY (sigma chi) for girls of their choice.

Thanks. :)

I think it's problematic that some fraternity chapters do that. I consider it embedded in the same thing that makes some fraternity men wear those disrespectful sexist fraternity tshirts. It's all saying "we have the hot women, come rush us."

shirley1929

08-09-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2077885)

Since I'm not there, this is all merely speculation on my part. (Sorry, I should have said that at the beginning, but I didn't think this was going to be such a big discussion!)

I'm sure they don't hear about it from the PNM's directly, just as you don't go tell Coca-Cola you saw their billboard on I-95. I think the hope is that an idea is planted like "Wow, Hottie Mchottenhot was wearing NOP's letters, his fraternity must mix with NOP, so maybe I should give them a good look during recruitment".

katydidKD

08-09-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2077885)

How do you all know that this is working? Do PNMs tell you all that they "discovered" NPC sororities because of these shirts on men? You all don't think that kind of sucks that they "discovered" NPC sororities via tshirts on men?

Obviously there is no research data to back this claim up. But it works. Sex sells. Yes. Problematic, absolutely.

ETA--- I almost exactly referenced Coca-cola! Just like you don't tell them the hot woman in the commercial is what made you buy a case.

DrPhil

08-09-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2077891)

I'm sure they don't hear about it from the PNM's directly, just as you don't go tell Coca-Cola you saw their billboard on I-95.

Well, there are customer surveys but a billboard on I-95 is a neutral venue. Are men a neutral venue for sorority advertising (assuming that some GLOs feel the need to advertise)? :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2077891)

I think the hope is that an idea is planted like "Wow, Hottie Mchottenhot was wearing NOP's letters, his fraternity must mix with NOP, so maybe I should give them a good look during recruitment".

Oh. :(

I flush that in the toilet with "this NPHC sorority was in the stepshow so I am now interested in joining"/"this NPHC sorority hangs with this NPHC fraternity so I want to join it."

/end lane swerve

katydidKD

08-09-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2077894)

I flush that in the toilet with "this NPHC sorority was in the stepshow so I am now interested in joining"/"this NPHC sorority hangs with this NPHC fraternity so I want to join it."

/end lane swerve

Correct.

katydidKD

08-09-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2077894)

Well, there are customer surveys but a billboard on I-95 is a neutral venue. Are men a neutral venue for sorority advertising (assuming that some GLOs feel the need to advertise)? :)

What if the billboard on I-95 had a gorgeous half naked woman drinking a coke?

DrPhil

08-09-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2077893)

Obviously there is no research data to back this claim up. But it works. Sex sells. Yes. Problematic, absolutely.

Very problematic. Oh well, I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2077893)

ETA--- I almost exactly referenced Coca-cola! Just like you don't tell them the hot woman in the commercial is what made you buy a case.

I'd be more inclined to buy because of a hot man than a hot woman. I'm even more inclined to buy because I want to drink Coca-Cola than because of any type of sexual soda stuff. Noticing something doesn't mean you want it.

DrPhil

08-09-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2077897)

What if the billboard on I-95 had a gorgeous half naked woman drinking a coke?

This is the second time you've said this so I must ask why you think I am attracted to women.

katydidKD

08-09-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2077898)

I'd be more inclined to buy because of a hot man than a hot woman. I'm even more inclined to buy because I want to drink Coca-Cola than because of any type of sexual soda stuff.

Okay, a hot person that is of the gender you are attracted to. You may buy coca-cola because you want one, but so much money and attention is placed into advertising by these companies because research tells them what makes their product sell. Just like i wonder if i would really buy abercrombie jeans if i didnt sub consciously hope some ripped dude in boxers is going to come to me as the advertisement suggests.

katydidKD

08-09-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2077899)

This is the second time you've said this so I must ask why you think I am attracted to women.

the "you" was a general you. not you as an individual.

ETA: most sexy advertising that i see is using sexy women and not sexy men. so that is why the general "you" I am speaking of is attracted to a sexy woman.

DrPhil

08-09-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2077904)

Noticing something doesn't mean you want it. I see Abercrombie but find it horrendous especially for someone in my age group.

More importantly, Coca-Cola and Abercrombie are not sororities rooted in sisterhood. LOL.

If some sorority chapters want to play this game, okay. But a Delta aspirant better not ever tell me that she became interested in Delta because of a man.

DrPhil

08-09-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katydidKD (Post 2077905)

A general you would be motivated by a half naked woman?

Again, noticing something doesn't mean you want it. If knowing about something is the point, that's fine even if it means some people are repulsed. However, if actually wanting that something is the point, it isn't enough to turn heads at the risk of turning stomachs.

shirley1929

08-09-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2077894)

I flush that in the toilet with "this NPHC sorority was in the stepshow so I am now interested in joining"/"this NPHC sorority hangs with this NPHC fraternity so I want to join it."

/end lane swerve

Agreed, BUT every chapter wants (in a perfect world) every girl going through to want them - at least at first. Notice I didn't say "I want to pledge that chapter because of Hottie McHottenhot" I said "give them a hard look". In theory, the recruitment process should then whittle down the people who are there for the right reasons.

The billboard on I-95 with the hot person you're attracted to makes you LOOK at it. The product should really be what makes you buy it.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:43 AM.

Page 21 of 24

« First

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page