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33girl 02-13-2008 03:05 PM

"New member" is the politically correct term for pledge. I don't like it at all since someone really isn't a member of a group until they are initiated.

HofDori 02-13-2008 03:09 PM

Yes I agree which is why the way I interpretted it made sense. the term "member" means to be a part of. And I do not like to consider these ladies a part of my family especially knowing they can drop or be dropped at any moment.

ForeverRoses 02-13-2008 03:10 PM

let me see if I understand:

New Member- NPC-- formerly called a pledge
NPHC-- someone that has just been initiated

Pledge- NPC- someone that is not yet initated but has pledged themselves to join that organization after they have finished a pledge period
NPHC- I remember being told once that NPHC orgs no longer pledge. So I am not sure what someone that is on-line is called. Neo?

For NPC, once you accept a bid, you are considered to be a member of the organization to a certain extent. For NPHC, are you not considered part of the org until you are initiated?

I am not trying to offend anyone, so if I am asking questions that cannot/shouldn't be asked, sorry!

cuteASAbug 02-13-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HofDori (Post 1599951)
Yes I agree which is why the way I interpretted it made sense. the term "member" means to be a part of. And I do not like to consider these ladies a part of my family especially knowing they can drop or be dropped at any moment.

Reasoning like that is why the NPC chose to switch over from pledge to new member- to show that the girls are basically sisters from the moment they accept their bids and are almost guaranteed to be initiated.

HofDori 02-13-2008 03:18 PM

That makes sense on paper, but it doesn't feel right, to call them members. But I guess rules are rules and they are there for a reason. Thanks for the insight it was very helpful.

ladygreek 02-13-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1599952)
let me see if I understand:

New Member- NPC-- formerly called a pledge
NPHC-- someone that has just been initiated

Correct for NPHC

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Pledge- NPC- someone that is not yet initated but has pledged themselves to join that organization after they have finished a pledge period
NPHC- I remember being told once that NPHC orgs no longer pledge. So I am not sure what someone that is on-line is called. Neo?
No, a neophyte is another name for a new member in the NPHC. Inductee, i.e. they have been inducted on the line, little sister, etc. In Delta we still use the group name from before MIP.

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For NPC, once you accept a bid, you are considered to be a member of the organization to a certain extent. For NPHC, are you not considered part of the org until you are initiated?
You are considered a part of the organization in that you have been invited to membership and are going through the process. But you are not a member until you are duly initiated. In fact no secrets are revealed until after initiation. Things like the meaning of the colors are not considered secrets, but rather historical information taught during the process. A person could de-pledge and not know anything more than could be found by reading certain books.

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I am not trying to offend anyone, so if I am asking questions that cannot/shouldn't be asked, sorry!
No offense taken.

PhiLove83 02-13-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HofDori (Post 1599942)
I am a sister of AEPhi. I guess definitions got misconstrued over the years. I'll double check my constitution and bylaws but I may be mistaken. That was the way it was described to me though.

I am an AEPhi as well, our nationals changed their policy and our new girls are no longer called pledges, they are new members, and newly initiated girls are referred to as new sisters. I believe that this changed in the late nineties.

ForeverRoses 02-13-2008 05:57 PM

Ladygreek- thank you for the clarification!

CULater 02-13-2008 06:18 PM

for us, a pledge (inductee/candidate) is referred to as orientee in the general term when referring to someone who is undergoing the process but have yet to be initiatied.

knight_shadow 02-13-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CULater (Post 1600112)
for us, a pledge (inductee/candidate) is referred to as orientee in the general term when referring to someone who is undergoing the process but have yet to be initiatied.

So the "interested lady" process is different from an actual pledge process in LTA? Some of your sisters at my school use the terms interchangeably.

When Doves Cry 02-13-2008 09:10 PM

one of our new members got her letters today.
she pledged 2 days ago

CULater 02-13-2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1600134)
So the "interested lady" process is different from an actual pledge process in LTA? Some of your sisters at my school use the terms interchangeably.

anyone can be an interested lady (even those who will never commence/go on line, become orientees). that's what it means. an interested lady is one who is interested in LTA and is in the process of learning more about LTA. we have an interest group where many interested ladies are a part of (the interest group is referred to as Interested Ladies of Lambda Theta Alpha Latin Sorority, Inc. for advertising/student group registration purposes for some schools). that is all i will say, but please believe that we don't use them interchangeably. it's pretty difficult to understand, but definitely there is no "interested lady" process.

knight_shadow 02-13-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CULater (Post 1600292)
anyone can be an interested lady (even those who will never commence/go on line, become orientees). that's what it means. an interested lady is one who is interested in LTA and is in the process of learning more about LTA. we have an interest group where many interested ladies are a part of (the interest group is referred to as Interested Ladies of Lambda Theta Alpha Latin Sorority, Inc. for advertising/student group registration purposes for some schools). that is all i will say, but please believe that we don't use them interchangeably. it's pretty difficult to understand, but definitely there is no "interested lady" process.

That's what I was referring to. Thanks for clearing that up.

CULater 02-13-2008 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1600301)
That's what I was referring to. Thanks for clearing that up.


cool, that's what i thought. it can get confusing, but i'm trying make it clear without being too vague...:p

LainaIsPHIMU 02-18-2008 11:59 PM

I recall being told not to were stiched or embroidered letters as a pledge, but there was several girls who did, I didn't that whole time, but they didn't do anything if you did. The only think we couldn't wear at all where badges. but basically they really don't enforce it too much here


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