As much fun as its been dealing with someone like you (Someone who, when any other point of view is presented other than his own, claims the other party is either stupid, ignorant, or a racist) I have work to do so have fun.

You keep saying this mess about black fraternities/sororities and the hypothetical situation of their throwing a white trash bash..it has never happened and probably...a strong probably, won't. We don't do stuff like that. Our organizations aren't perfect, of course not, but we simply don't find that stuff entertaining. Our sensitivity levels do tend to be higher, and I would think understandibly, because of our history in America, so no, it isn't something we would do so you may as well drop that as an argument. How can you pose a hypothetical, an improbable one at that, as an argument against the views on something that has and does actually occur???

no, the base of your argument is what makes you stupid. you're the one calling us over sensitive. but you're the one who thinks black face is ok. hmm.....who is the stupid one?

And with that, I am out of here. I have things to do.

Would starang, Pike, and Colonist please stop posting in this thread?

And don't feel the need to answer this post please, we all got whatever point you were all trying to make 100 posts ago.

Thanx :)

last post...

look at james moderating...good shit.

Here is one for you. The same fraternity that supposedly was racist also had a party a year ago that had a theme to it. I think, oh no wait i know that it was called, "trailer trash bash" in which they dressed up as trailer trash. They right there offended white people that were trailer trash yet the fact that they dress up in compton outfits is racist. Oh yeah and by the way the president at the time was black and he was at the party to dressed up. how weird.

Well strange as another Mod, I DITTO JAMES!

This is not posted just at you but the rest who seem to love to play the race card!

If you want to play this BS, take it to PM! It gets very old!

If any of you do not like this Post, you may PM me! Get your Race Crap off of the Boards, act like SEMI Grown ups if you do not mind!:(

It kind of remindes me of Spam and Hash to over done and leaves a bad taste with a lot of people!:p :mad:

does this have anything to do with the bigotry at hand? ummm....survey says....nope.

well...if people wouldn't practice bigotry, then this "race crap" wouldn't have to be said.

You just dont get it do you!:(

You seem to play Racist more so than a most on here so what does that make you, the only right person here?:confused:

Racism does run both ways or do you even understand that?:eek:

no, you don't get it. you seem to think that folks cry racism for no reason. this bigotry is proof positive that we're not out of the woods yet.

I don't think anyone is suggesting racism and color prejudice does not exist; I hope not.
I think what Tom was saying was both that racism - color prejudice (I don't want to get into a debate of power vs space segregation, posited requirement of 'power' for racism to exist etc) can be perpetuated by anyone regardless of their skin color; and, that suggesting one ethnic group may not have a voice on the topic may be seen to suggest that not everyone can make a stand against racism which is obviously untrue.

I think that it is also dangerous to fall into the trap of saying x group is only "racist" because of y group - to suggest such prejudices are somehow ever justified would indicate those prejudices can sometimes be acceptable which of course they cannot. Inexcusable behaviour is inexcusable regardless of who the victim and perpetrator may be.

On starang21's comment of people crying racism for no reason, I return to my earlier point that no one is (or should) be saying that racism does not continue in the world but it is sadly naïve to suggest that accusations are never made in situations where it has not actually occurred. I shall refrain from examples but it does sometimes happen. Such baseless accusations are unfortunate because it risks an important issue (to everyone) being taken less seriously where there is a real problem because of false accusations having been made.

Finally, though I am aware of the irony of any post which says such a thing I think the thread has already had viewpoints of various people given - often with great lucidity - and I feel it would make little positive change to continue the debate much more on this particular thread.

I understand why it is offensive for them to use black face at their party -- I'd be really embarrassed to be there, but I don't think the fraternity should be kicked off campus over something like that.

Someone said something earlier about there being a double standard... I cant speak for BGLOs but I know that black comedians get away with a lot of stuff (mocking whites) that if the tables were turned, a white comedian would get in deep trouble for.