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ZTABullwinkle 08-09-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin (Post 1693395)
LOL. I am glad someone else remembers the suck of John Tesh and gymastics. He literally could not get anything right - even important details about the events themselves!

Actually, at least John Tesh didn't go looking for drama where there wasn't any. I can't tell you how many times I yell at him to shut up when I watch gymnastics on NBC. I imagine that both Tim and Elfie are rolling their eyes as much as I am at his so-called "commentary." :rolleyes:

cuteASAbug 08-09-2008 10:14 PM

The opening ceremony itself was spectacular, and that little boy was too sweet, especially walking alongside Yao Min. However, in terms of the actual torch lighting, to me, it still doesn't hold a candle (pun not intended) to Barcelona in 1992.

CutiePie2000 08-10-2008 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DaffyKD (Post 1693218)
He was talking about the Cayman Islands who entered the stadium immediately behind Canada. They did cut to a commercial right after the Cayman Islands came in.

Yes, you have it right.

breathesgelatin 08-10-2008 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cuteASAbug (Post 1693516)
The opening ceremony itself was spectacular, and that little boy was too sweet, especially walking alongside Yao Min. However, in terms of the actual torch lighting, to me, it still doesn't hold a candle (pun not intended) to Barcelona in 1992.

Yeah, that was cool.

I think my personal favorite is still Lillehammer though.

DeltAlum 08-10-2008 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DaffyKD (Post 1693218)
I wish they would quit doing commercials during the entrance of the countries.

And others wish there would be no commercials during (fill in the blank).

How do you (all) suppose that they recoup the hundreds of millions of dollars in rights fees, production costs, equipment purchase and rental, crews, satellite transmission, travel and all of the other associated costs?

Like it or not, television is a business.

breathesgelatin 08-10-2008 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1693642)
And others wish there would be no commercials during (fill in the blank).

How do you (all) suppose that they recoup the hundreds of millions of dollars in rights fees, production costs, equipment purchase and rental, crews, satellite transmission, travel and all of the other associated costs?

Like it or not, television is a business.

I think for me the thing that really burned this year was that in combination with skipping through some of the countries, they outright insulted them or didn't even bother to announce their name for 2 seconds.

BetteDavisEyes 08-10-2008 02:38 AM

Grrr!

I hate this stupid tape delay crap we get on the West Coast. I'm up and excited to watch the prelims of the gymnastics competition but I can't b/c it's tape delayed. I'll get highlights sometime tomorrow. Instead, I'm continuously getting updates from a website since I can't find a live feed anywhere. I'm not computer savvy. :(

sunnyhibiscus 08-10-2008 03:03 AM

The US men's volleyball team almost choked, but pulled it together.

In all seriousness, my thoughts and prayers are with the US men's volleyball coach. That was awful what had happened to his in-laws.

DeltAlum 08-10-2008 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin (Post 1693647)
I think for me the thing that really burned this year was that in combination with skipping through some of the countries, they outright insulted them or didn't even bother to announce their name for 2 seconds.

It appeared to me that they did their best to play, albeit very short, pieces of video of the teams that came in during commercial breaks as they returned from the commercial cutins.

Given my thoughts on the financial situation I commented on above, I don't know how much more they could have done.

But, my experience as a sports broadcaster is that no matter how something is handled on TV, somebody's going to be ticked off.

As a former colleague used to say, "They'd be mad if you hung 'em with a new rope." I don't know what more to say.

SoCalGirl 08-10-2008 03:53 AM

I didn't think Bob Costas and NBC were trying to insult the small nations as much as remind everyone over and over about the Olympic spirit. Most athletes have no shot at a medal but they compete because of what it means to them and their countries.

They brought up the swimmer from the teeny country that didn't have any competitive swimmers. Nine months before the 2004(?) Olympics he learned to swim. In competition he fell behind by almost an etire pool length. But he kept swimming and the competitors and audience cheered him on like he was going for first place.

That's the type of thing it's all about!

tinydancer16 08-10-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl (Post 1693680)
They brought up the swimmer from the teeny country that didn't have any competitive swimmers. Nine months before the 2004(?) Olympics he learned to swim. In competition he fell behind by almost an etire pool length. But he kept swimming and the competitors and audience cheered him on like he was going for first place.

I remember this so vividly but I can't remember for the life of me what country he was from -any ideas?? It's been bugging me since the games started!

Kevlar281 08-10-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tinydancer16 (Post 1693773)
I remember this so vividly but I can't remember for the life of me what country he was from -any ideas?? It's been bugging me since the games started!

Eric Moussambani...I think.

Benzgirl 08-10-2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1693782)
Eric Moussambani...I think.

You are correct. He was from Equatorial Guinea

DeltAlum 08-10-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1693040)

And she starts out with a Silver Medal.

Outstanding.

Benzgirl 08-10-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1693898)
And she starts out with a Silver Medal.

Outstanding.

I keep laughing that people are accusing her of doping.

LttleMsPrEp 08-10-2008 05:46 PM

I'm def. pulling for Shawn Johnson and Nastia L. in women's gymnastics and for men i'm def. pulling for Raj (he's AMAZING)!!!

DeltAlum 08-10-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1693901)
I keep laughing that people are accusing her of doping.

NBC's medical expert, Dr. somebody, did a story on doping that played this afternoon. The USOC (or maybe the IOC) has begun a new program of voluntary urine and blood tests taken every week or two in order to help set up some kind of genetic profile to better enforce anti-doping in the future.

She is one of the volunteers.

texas*princess 08-10-2008 08:31 PM

I'm watching the gymnastics right now... supposedly the "competition age" is 16. Those Chinese girls look 9!

Great gymnastics work though

Benzgirl 08-10-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1694066)
NBC's medical expert, Dr. somebody, did a story on doping that played this afternoon. The USOC (or maybe the IOC) has begun a new program of voluntary urine and blood tests taken every week or two in order to help set up some kind of genetic profile to better enforce anti-doping in the future.

She is one of the volunteers.

That's what she said in an interview. Michael Phelps is another volunteer.

Benzgirl 08-10-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1694087)
I'm watching the gymnastics right now... supposedly the "competition age" is 16. Those Chinese girls look 9!

Great gymnastics work though

The girl that fell off the bars is as much 16 as I am 29.
Ok, so I'm 29 and holding.

BetteDavisEyes 08-10-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1694087)
I'm watching the gymnastics right now... supposedly the "competition age" is 16. Those Chinese girls look 9!


Bela Karolyi agrees with you.

China needs to do a better job keeping track of their forgery.


Those girls are NOT 16. Hell no. I wouldn't be surprised if come 2012, those same girls appear again but with their ages modified. :rolleyes:
Seriously. The age thing sucks but you can't prove their real ages if the government controls every aspect of their training.

LttleMsPrEp 08-10-2008 10:04 PM

about being on the west coast and not being able to watch gymnastics because of the delays have you tried nbcolympics.com? they have live feeds for basically all the sports (personally i'm watching it because they didn't really give the Romanians much gymnastics much coverage-even though it's clearly between U.S. and China i still like to see the other countries)...

Am I the only one that nearly lost it when Nastia fell during her dismount from the bars?? It also sucks about Sam P. not being able to contribute more than bars because of her ankle hopefully USA can pull it together.

And as far as China those girls are NOWHERE near 16.. my guess is that they're all between 9 and 14

CutiePie2000 08-10-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl (Post 1693313)
Re Kobe: After he took pictures with other athletes he was asking how to say "thank you". I think he'll never have the image that he use to have but I don't think he's as much of a primadonna as some people would like you to believe.

I did see that too. Maybe he realizes that he is in the company of other types of athletes who also exhibit greatness in their respective sports.

Elephant Walk 08-10-2008 10:13 PM

The U.S. men got it together against the Dutch and tied 2-2, although they should've won. A tie or win for sure gets them through to the next round.

BetteDavisEyes 08-10-2008 10:22 PM

I found it interesting that powerhouse soccer-mad Brazil has never won an Olympic gold medal.

As for those Chinese girls, they are SO NOT 16. If they're 16, I'm 21. :p
It's pretty sad that they are that desperate to win a gold medal that they would push these children so hard. Look at a 17 year old gymnast from any other country & compare it to a 16 year old Chinese gymnast. Major differences.

KSUViolet06 08-10-2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1694232)

Look at a 17 year old gymnast from any other country & compare it to a 16 year old Chinese gymnast. Major differences.


Yeah I agree. I'm fairly sure that they restrict the girl's diets and such to help them stay small, which delays the onset of puberty (since you don't menstruate once you hit a certain low weight/body fat %), which stunts their growth and keeps them small.

a.e.B.O.T. 08-11-2008 12:00 AM

the 400m freestyle relay was AMAZING. The french were caught talking smack, but the US boys rocked it out by .2 seconds, beating the world record by 4 seconds. Awesome!

DreamfulSpirit 08-11-2008 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T. (Post 1694363)
the 400m freestyle relay was AMAZING. The french were caught talking smack, but the US boys rocked it out by .2 seconds, beating the world record by 4 seconds. Awesome!

LOL yes...I loved it!!! Shows what happens when you talk smack!

BetteDavisEyes 08-11-2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1694341)
Yeah I agree. I'm fairly sure that they restrict the girl's diets and such to help them stay small, which delays the onset of puberty (since you don't menstruate once you hit a certain low weight/body fat %), which stunts their growth and keeps them small.


I actually meant to say to compare a 16 year old from any other county to a 16 year old from China. Still, the point is the same.

It's sad that they do these things to these poor girls just for the sake of winning.

OhSoVeryLadylike 08-11-2008 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T. (Post 1694363)
the 400m freestyle relay was AMAZING. The french were caught talking smack, but the US boys rocked it out by .2 seconds, beating the world record by 4 seconds. Awesome!

whoohoo
that was a RACE!!!

texas*princess 08-11-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T. (Post 1694363)
the 400m freestyle relay was AMAZING. The french were caught talking smack, but the US boys rocked it out by .2 seconds, beating the world record by 4 seconds. Awesome!

that was sooooo awesome!!!!

Fleur de Lis 08-11-2008 12:13 AM

That was amazing!!!! I don't even usually watch the swimming, but that is Olympic history right there! GO USA!

a.e.B.O.T. 08-11-2008 12:37 AM

ACTUALLY... it was .08 of a second, and sort of luck, in regards to where the swimmers were in their stroke when they got to their board... but to watch that last second comeback... amazing!!!

tinydancer16 08-11-2008 12:42 AM

That race was truly awesome!!!:D

Beryana 08-11-2008 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1693297)
The family of an ex-Olympian and the in-laws of the current U.S. men's volleyball coach were attacked today in Beijing.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/oly_china_american_killed

Just found out that Barbara Bachman was downgraded to serious from critical - and that she in an AOII from U of Minnesota.

Benzgirl 08-11-2008 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tinydancer16 (Post 1694397)
That race was truly awesome!!!:D

I'm just not getting any sleep.

srmom 08-11-2008 09:31 AM

So Excited!!! My friends Sally, Debby and Carrie are currently tied for 3rd with the Austrians with 6 races under their belts and 4 more to go! Keep your fingers crossed!!!

Word is that the conditions are dicey - very little wind with huge current so they sometimes feel they are going backwards, all it takes is making the wrong choice as to which side to go up and the entire fleet can get inverted - In the first race they went from 2nd at the 3rd mark to 14th by the finish.

AND YES that relay was so exciting!! My husband and I whooped so loud when they won that it scared my dogs to death!!!

Unregistered- 08-11-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Beryana (Post 1694506)
Just found out that Barbara Bachman was downgraded to serious from critical - and that she in an AOII from U of Minnesota.

I read this morning that her condition has improved, but I'm sure the rest of the country will still be praying for her and for her family. :(

We're six hours behind the East Coast, so it's hard as hell not to read the updates or pay attention to the tickers on the sports channels. Hell, we were watching the LLWS West Regionals and we knew about the 4x100 win 4 hours before it was aired here. :mad:

Putting all that political crap aside, I'm very proud of China and her people. They've been very supportive of athletes of all nations, not just their own, they should be commended for that.

AOII_LB93 08-11-2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1694095)
Bela Karolyi agrees with you.

China needs to do a better job keeping track of their forgery.


Those girls are NOT 16. Hell no. I wouldn't be surprised if come 2012, those same girls appear again but with their ages modified. :rolleyes:
Seriously. The age thing sucks but you can't prove their real ages if the government controls every aspect of their training.


Even my husband, who hates watching women's gymnastics said, "I don't for one second believe that these girls are 16. Not possible."

Total BS if you ask me...but hey, China, go ahead and falsify your stuff...:rolleyes:

CutiePie2000 08-11-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1695002)
Even my husband, who hates watching women's gymnastics said, "I don't for one second believe that these girls are 16. Not possible."

Total BS if you ask me...but hey, China, go ahead and falsify your stuff...:rolleyes:

For any gymnasts who don't medal, they can go and get jobs in Cirque du Soleil afterwards. :)


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