We never said we agree with his point. We said we understood his point.

You didn't understand his point which is why you were unable to do what pbear effectively did in one post.

How about you call it quits? When you have to explain yourself this much, it's a FAIL.

(Of course you can post all you want to because that's what the board's for, it's just ironic that you told him to quit while he can. :))

POOR SAVE.

Stop recommending ways to say it better when others got his point. Just admit you didn't understand, and went on a tangent, and be done with it.

No...understood and thought that is was wrong. Thank you

If you say "lemonade is great" and I tell you "your assertion that cats are great is crazy and I disagree," does that mean that I truly received your comment and am disagreeing based on your actual comment?

This detour is interestingly more interesting than the OT.

not really in the mood to go down that road with you today...


Thank you anyways...

Too late. ;)

Why is this any more fallacious than, say, you thinking that because you don't make the leap, no one will?

Or that the (perceived, or even relative) efficacy of the action has any bearing on whether or not the concept is possible?

Thank you darling

To answer the second point, I never said it wasn't possible, I said it is illogical. All kinds of illogical things are possible, but their possibility does not make them logical.

As to the first point, you are more than welcome to say that you disagree with my position, or that you find it to be illogical. I am not trying to prove the original point, I am merely stating my own opinion. My single opinion in some part disproves the original point, as did the opinion of the other people in this thread who disagreed with it. The person making the initial point has the onus of backing it up in some logical fashion, and I believe that was not done. Hence I consider the premise to be illogical. PhiGam didn't say maybe a couple of people will buy into it, and I didn't say that maybe a couple of people wouldn't. My interpretation of the original point was that PhiGam believes this to be an intentional political ploy with the possibility that a good number of people will make what I consider to be an illogical leap, and I am challenging that premise.

That's fair but obviously I don't have the resources to prove that this would have a significant effect or to prove the Army's motive behind the promotion. Perhaps it was just a coincidence that she is promoted during the slow news cycle that leads up to the first election since 2000 with a republican running without incumbent status. I, however, feel that it is entirely possible that this move was a political move by the military.

Fair enough. :) I disagree, obviously. There is also the question of whether the 'military' (which is such an ambiguous term, in many ways) is without question in favor of McCain, and would thus work in specific action to support him. While 'the military' is probably more likely to support McCain, the individuals who were responsible for promoting this deserving woman may or may not be pro-McCain. Again, I think it far more plausible that the political move had nothing to do with him, if it was indeed a political move at all. I think it is fair to surmise that 'the military' can do things for its own purpose without the need to turn it to presidential politics. But, I think I'm repeating myself now.

Just to throw something else out there...

Isn't it somewhat likely that at least one person might look at this and think:

Woman = Good
Not just a white male world anymore
Women and Minorities = Good
Obama = Good

Personally, I don't think it was a political move because the result is so flimsy. None of us will ever know though.

ETA: Just to clarify, I don't actually believe it was done to help Obama.

Thats a solid argument. I can almost guarantee that military leaders support McCain more than they would support Obama. I haven't met too many career military people who are democrats, even if their views are liberal.

yerah...like you needed saving...you are a grown boy...sometimes you should know better than debate me because you know how all these will end....but you keep coming back.....


finish it.

How did this end in your mind?

(;) @ PhiGam...only today will I not fuss about being called "darling")

I'm guessing :D :D :cool:





In reality, :(:o:(

wrong...that's not what I am even thinking....

These debates never end nicely, they end up messy on both ends.

Exactly. :)

Dramatic, much? ;)

Your post to him was rather Roy Jones Jr. "ya'll musta forgot"-ish. :D


(for the win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWIqZKhNY90)

and you care...because?

Awww...him sensitive.

When all else fails, ask why usernames "care."

This was a funny thread and Roy Jones Jr. is funny. If you didn't chuckle, boooo to you. ;)

I did chucke at the reference that's why I asked...

Whatever makes sense in your mind, DaemonSeid. :)

holy shit...brb....my mom is on the phone and it aint good..

my stepbrotherdied

this is un
Him and hisw ife was coming home and .

damn..he weshome on leave...

dammit...i gotta go

I'm very sorry to hear about your loss. Be strong and take this time to let your family know how much you love them.