Their not ripping off KD just a name change their colors are still the same as Kappas light and dark blue. . .

Exactly, so I don't know why you said

That sounded as though you do, in fact, believe they are ripping off KD.

No i just meant it in the sense of they got into problems because they took Kappa Kappa Gamma and left off the extra Kappa. So since their starting a new org with a new name why not choose a letter combo that doesn't have a connection to a NPC org. Id of had the same thought if they became Phi Mu Sigma or Delta Zeta Alpha. Its only because of their history. And haven't girls looking to start their own sorority been flamed on GC for the name they wanted to use (skepi)

Did they change anything else or just the name? Because if they're still using Kappa's colors and symbols (and could still use the Kappa nickname) it's still an issue.

There would have been no issue whatsoever if they would have called themselves "Kappa Gamma" and had a skunk as a mascot and orange and pink as their colors. It was the combination of the similar letters PLUS using similar colors, mascots, philanthropies etc. This is also why the SKEPi lady got flamed - but she was even worse as she outright said things like "our history may be taken from Sigma Kappa."

There are only so many letters in the Greek alphabet and only so many combinations that sound/look pleasing.

ROTFL!!!! (And probably no members either!)

Oh for crying out loud...

cristinasmile (crazy SKEPi girl) flat out said that she was forming her sorority based on Sigma Kappa. That's why we gave her shit. Girls looking to start their own sorority who are willing to do the hard work in doing so usually get our support.

If what SCSUgirl said is true, then Kappa Gamma took a break to rid themselves of the KKG mold. Let's hope they really followed true to that. Until then, it's obvious Alias2345 is jumping the gun a bit since we don't know anything about this new "Kappa Delta Xi".

And could some less math-impaired person than me do the math as to how many 2 and 3 letter combinations are indeed possible from the Greek alphabet? Cause it has got to be at least hundreds - and while I'll admit some will sound better than others, I don't think that the number of possible combinations is a valid reason to NOT make your own name, instead of ripping off an existing group.

well, I think it's just another NPC conceit to assume that if someone has a name that is one letter off from an NPC group, they're ripping off the NPC group. I did the same thing.

Look at all-local campuses. I don't think the girls in these groups are trying to imitate AGD, Tri-Sigma, or Kappa Delta.

576 possible 2-letter; 13,824 possible 3-letter. Including repeating letters and different letter order.

And it occurred to me that if, as the OP said, they are still keeping their colors, etc., they may still want to call themselves "Kappa" (they already had the shirts and all), but their name at least would show they're not (supposedly) posing after KKG anymore. And if they keep the colors, etc., they'll be nothing like KD (and KDs don't call themselves Kappa, that I'm aware anyway).

No, they're definitely not. But did anyone else read the first group's name, Sorosis, as "cirrhosis" in their head? :o;)

Not the Pi Phis!:)

Man, I'm just foot-in-mouthing it all over these boards this morning!

Guess that's my signal to stop playing and get back to work...

THANK YOU. :)

Can you imaging the jokes that could result if it were on anything other than a dry campus?

Sometimes it beeeeees like that!

<---back to being productive, I guess. :(

Isn't "Sorosis" part of Pi Phi's original name? I.C. Sorosis I think?

Yes. This is still very important to Pi Beta Phi.

I have to add that even though there are 13,000 combinations or whatever, you have to keep in mind that the Greek letters usually stand for Greek words. Some Greek letters are not as commonly seen in GLO names because there aren't as many Greek words that start with them. Or at least not Greek words that you want to use to embody your organization.

If you have half a brain and know your own org's secret meanings, sometimes you can figure out things about other orgs just by intuition. Just sayin'.

True, but you also have to remember that there are GLOs where the Greek letters don't represent Greek words.

Really? I have never heard of this. A group just picks random letters they think look good together? Makes me wonder why they would have greek names at all.

LOL, no. Sometimes, the Greek letters represent words in a language other than Greek.

About choosing names/letters
 

Cool history - here's an excerpt, but you should read all of the history. It's a great story!

"Chi Omega Greek Letters
Chi Omega Greek Letters are the X and the Omega (horseshoe). Every Chi Omega may use and wear our letters. Not knowing the Greek language, the Chi Omega Founders cut cardboard into the shapes of Greek letters, shuffled, arranged and rearranged them on the floor until they found the monogram, CHI OMEGA. They liked the combination - Jobelle said it reminded them of the emblems classically used by secret societies - and they decided Chi Omega would be the name of the sorority."

From http://nm.chiomega.com/history/

http://www.southernct.edu/clubs/glc/glc_kdx.html
Their still going by Kappa with dark and light blue as colors. . . . New name same B.S. :mad:

Isn't "jade" green?

Um im not sure i guess its not light blue like KKG but im still bugged by them going by kappa. . . Esp since all the members are former Kappa Gammas

I feel like a lot of orgs go by "Kappa." I mean for example in the NPHC you have Kappa Alpha Psi, which is usually called Kappa. I'm sure there are many local orgs on campuses where there isn't KKG and they call themselves "Kappa."

It does appear that they are making a good faith effort to distinguish themselves from KKG. TBH, I can understand why they'd want to retain the "Kappa" identifier, since they're already known as that on their campus. I don't want to downplay the sketchiness of them being "Kappa Gamma" in the first place, but at least they are changing...

They changed their colors. They changed their mascot. I don't think you're going to be satisfied until they set themselves on fire.

As bg said, LOTS of local groups as well as fraternities use the nickname "Kappa." Kappa Kappa Gamma does not own it.

*dead*

Right.

If the SCSU Kappas are serious about getting rid of everything Kappa Kappa Gamma and are now taking on their own symbols, colors, and name, then more power to them and I wish them nothing but the best.

Alias2345, get a new hobby. If Kappa Kappa Gamma members feel that the SCSU Kappas are no longer taking what's theirs, then you have no right feeling the way you do. Let it go.

So glad this thread was here as I couldn't post this story on the old thread!!!

I just got off the phone with an old friend working in New York who I catch up with every few years or so. She brought up the story of a resume that crossed her desk where the applicant had written of her leadership positions in Kappa Gamma. After several questions, my friend asked the young woman about her work in the organization. The KG basically dug herself into a hole about her copycat group that she was an "instrumental part of developing." Needless to say, the KG didn't get a job because my friend was able to tell everyone about how she was knowingly stealing ideas&concepts from a national GLO!! Karma, anyone?

I figured something like this might happen when a KG crosses a Kappa Kappa Gamma's path, but my friend was never a KKG. WOW!!!

Woo Cool!
 

:D

Mwahaha that's pretty sweet!

So would that be called "Kappa Karma"? :D

Ok so this thread is old but I couldn't resist posting this info from SCSU's greek life page

"SORORITIES
Kappa Delta Xi Sorority (Local)

Founded in 2000 by 17 local Southern students, "Kappa" has been held in very high regard by many administrators. Kappa Delta Xi reinforces its ideals of friendship, unity, social and moral integrity and love and helpfulness to all members of the Kappa sisterhood."

Its great that they changed their name and badge and symbols and everything but why not have a new founding date? Or at least acknowledge that what was started in 2000 is no longer who you are especially since the name you were founded with in 2000 is not even the same :confused::confused::confused:

http://www.southernct.edu/officeofst...ons/greeklife/

If they want to keep their original founding date, that's their prerogative. They've changed their name, badge, and symbol so they don't resemble all things KKG.

The only one who still bears resentment seems to be you. And well, you're the one looking like the asshole now.

I don't really care how I look and im not saying have a different founding date but at least like say that you changed names or something. Sororities that affiliate w/ other orgs have keep their original org founding date but also noted the date of name and identity change. That was all i was trying to say.

Based on your posts in this thread, I find that hard to believe. Like 33girl said, you won't shut up until these women set themselves on fire.

No i'd still talk then. . . I'd call the fire department then talk to the local news people and then prob come here to post about it :D

Actually, I'm thinking it might be editorial oversight on the part the school's greek life webmaster, considering this link (which, by the way, you posted) says that their founding was in 2008.

Just leave them alone already. You are not the greek police.

See that was all i was looking for. . . Thank You :)