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I am more than welcome to hear what the other side has to say. Provided that it is regarding the actual issue and not just an excuse to be an undercover racist, bash another culture, or demean someone due their socio-economic status.
And if you live in S. Florida (like I do) it's been on the LOCAL news. So I didn't need to read that (one) article (which is not the end all be all of the issue because other articles actually do exist about it) to know what people have been doing in towns 10-30 miles from me. I have more insight on the matter than what the article merely states and as others have said before me, it is not a serious request, it is merely one to draw attention to the fact that our taxes are being used to fund things in other parts of the states and we are not receiving that money back DESPITE the fact that we have severe home foreclosure, high property taxes, higher poverty rates, etc. The state of Florida has been cutting the budgets on things like schools and services for the elderly, disabled, and other public services. They are upset because we give so much and it's being taken and now the cuts are making it even worse. |
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:) Let 'em have Lawn Guyland, too. We should keep Tally and G-ville as well. I'm already ahead on this trend...whenever someone asks me where I'm from, I automatically say "North Florida, three hours east of New Orleans, right on the Gulf." That way, I don't hear any of that "my great aunt Yetta retired to Ft. Lauderdale..." nonsense. :) |
I think Orlando needs to stay with Ocala. My dad is in Ocala and we like the "in state" discount he gets at Disney...
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Not to mention that Cuban-Americans, that seem to be the topic of discussion whenever this is brought up, are far more Republican than their hispanic counterparts. (e.g. Marco Rubio the Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, Mel Martinez in the Senate, Carlos Gutierrez the U.S. Secretary of Commerce, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen in House of Representatives, etc) Last presidential election Dade county was 46.6% Republican and 52.9% Democrat. Not all that liberal. Broward County is more liberal than Dade by a long shot. 64% Dem vs 34% Rep last election. And, it's important to add, that hispanics only make up 22% of Broward's population. |
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My dad is in Ocala too, so I would like to keep that town with me. I also don't want to leave the state to get to Orlando, so make the state line below them. |
I'm a 3rd generation South Floridian (my great grandmother moved hear in 1923) and I think there needs to be some kind of legislation that makes English the official language. People who work in customer service should be able to speak at least functional English but other than that I love South Florida. We've go great beaches, great weather, fresh air, art, music, culture, intelligent mostly liberal inhabitants, and diversity (which contrary to some of your statments is a good thing). However, compare that with our poor public education system, high homeowners insurance, and more impoverished areas and it's clear that we're getting the short end of the stick.
I've lived in North Florida (Tallahassee) and their concerns are NOT our concerns. WE make the money from tourism, large airports, & sales taxes, etc. and Republicans from areas like Apopka, Immokalee, Gainesville, Tallahassee, and even some Miami representatives (misinformed Cuban Americans who vote against their own best interests) vote against OUR interests. You North Florida inhabitants think you're so Southern. News flash The heart of Dixie doesn't accept you and they never will. If you want to be a rebel move your azzes up to Alabama or South Carolina. |
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intelligent? LOL. please. miami is one of the dumbest cities in the union. |
Like we've been saying-if we could keep our money here-we could GREATLY improve our educational and poverty situations. That would highly increase the levels of those who perform better in schools.
Also, don't tell me there aren't kids in backwoods everywhere in your beloved "South" who can't tell a text book from a Bible and can read neither. |
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On the other side though Jacksonville doesn't like the fact that Miami wants to set up a pipe line to bring water from the North Florida aquirfier to down south. I am honestly suprised this last state session ended without an increase in the state sales tax or a proposal for a state income tax(though I don't think this will happen as long as the Republicans control Tallahassee) I am also not a big fan of Gov. Crist and where he pulled all the decifict money from... |
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South Florida is a drain on the rest of the state. But, I do agree that English needs to be the state's official language. But, luckily, the Northern section of the state hasn't really taken on Spanish that readily. |
You know what I'm noticing? That a lot of the Floridians don't seem to spend a lot of effort spending time in the "other half" of the state. I haven't spent time anywhere north of here in this state outside of Central Florida (mainly Disney).
For example, you were talking about the "Emerald Coast". I will honestly admit that I don't exactly know what specific area that term is refering to. (I'm going to go look it up right now though! ETA: So yes, I am familiar with those cities, but just not that particular name. I am also aware of their popularity. I have been wanting to visit Destin to see what all the fuss is about!) I also didn't want to attend school upstate at FSU or UF because "who knew what was up there?" Many don't travel within our own state and enjoy a lot of what it has to offer. I have been trying to get my bf to take a road trip for a week or so and roam around. I am proud to be a Floridian and want to learn much more. You always hear so much about the other half, but most people don't usually go. |
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The Union? Are we in the 1800s. You're talking about education? As far as I know the South lost and as far as I still know the entire state of Florida is not considered apart of the old South and rarely categorized as the deep south. PhiGam starang21 I reckon y'all should go on over yonder to that there library and get y'all selves sumthin to read. One of them new fangled Yankee history books should set ya up jus' right. Go on an' grab them bulls by the horns and go on an open one of those there books. Y'all are sum real good ole boys. It's either that or head on over to Alabama or Mississippi where the South shall rise again! Thank ya kindly and bless your hearts. ;) *End Hijack* Now tuning in to our regularly scheduled program. Thanks to everyone else who responded. There are obviously some points that North & South Florida can learn about each other, i.e. Emerald coast & which industries & locations contribute what to state revenue. |
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The State of the Union: For many years, the speech was referred to as "the President's Annual Message to Congress." The actual term "State of the Union" did not become widely used until after 1935 when Franklin D. Roosevelt began using the phrase. The Union: During the American Civil War, Union was a name used to refer to the twenty-three states of the United States which were not part of the seceding Confederacy. Although the Union states included the Western states of California, Oregon, and (after 1864) Nevada, as well as states generally considered to be part of the Midwest, the Union is also often loosely referred to as "the North", both then and now. See the difference, now? |
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Stupid me. It just didn't look to me like you understood that the phrase "the union" can be and is used outside the context of The Union vs. The Confederacy. I can see now that you do, though -- otherwise, why would FDR have resurrected the word to describe the State of the Union Address. (He didn't invent that title, of course; it comes from Article II, § 3, of the Constitution. But you knew that, didn't you?) Thanks for the eduction. I feel much more smarterer now. |
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translation, please. what does this have to with miami as a city having less intelligent denizens than the rest of the country? |
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I had to call the executive producer of election coverage at the network to tell him that the map included the UP as a part of Wisconsin instead of Michigan. Not sure how the UP residents (or Northern Wisconsin for that matter) would have felt about that, but it cost the network a fair amount of money to fix their geographical error. |
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You're feeling of superior intelligence to southerners is simply that... a feeling. The reason that the people quoted in the OP's article are angry is because they feel that the rest of Florida is unfairly using funds... sounds like if anything the South Florida legislators got outsmarted. |
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Was MsFoxyLoxy attempting "South-speak?" :rolleyes:
And she called starang a good ole boy. LOL. As if! |
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i'm a bama. |
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http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/flags/us-wstfl.html Check your shit before calling someone out, especially on the history of their own state. thanks. |
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If you had actually read, you'd know that I wasn't calling you out on the history of your state; I was calling you out for assuming that you were the only person around here who knew that particular tidbit of history. The lesson for today: When you assume that Quote:
And when you then get your panties in a wad over it because you failed to read, you can expect to look like a fool. Thanks. |
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Take for example the good ol' boy network: The good ol' boy network describes a system of social networking and perceptions alleged to exist prevalently among certain communities and social strata in the United States. Although the term originated in the South, these networks can be found throughout the U.S. and the rest of the Western world. It is typically taken to refer to informal legal, judicial, social, religious, business, and political associations among white males ("good ol' boys"); however, in modern times can be composed of either or both sexes. In some areas, the good ol' boy network is said to still exert considerable influence over many aspects of local government, business, and law enforcement. Usage of the term can often imply a wrongful exclusion of others from the network; however, often the emphasis is on inclusion of a member, as in, "doing a good ol' boy a favor". |
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PhiGam is probably a part of the good ol' boy network (no offense to him) but starang21 certainly isn't in the traditional sense of the phrase. LOL. Now, were you attempting "Southern twang speak" in the post that you referenced the good ol boys? If so, that's insulting and would explain why your reference was interpreted as being about the South. |
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<------- President of the Internet Plagarism League :p |
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Not a part of the good ol' boy network. :p MsFoxyLoxy, pray tell, what was the point of the sad attempt at Southern twang? |
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To me it means low class, white trash hicks. |
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-Prior comments marginalized Miami's citizens as the dumbest in the U.S. but I suppose that's not as insulting. -Some rallied that South Florida was just Cuba (in the deragatory sense), or a part of NJ or the North (in a deragatory sense), again I can only suppose they were meant to be just statements. -Prior comments stated southern Florida as apart of the proverbial north & certain parts of northern Florida as southern in culture. Whether these statements are entirely embedded in truth is up to varying levels of interpretation. But all generalizations are insulting. So no there is no excuse on my part. Phi Gam I don't hate southerners, no more than you hate ambulances (since you posted a picture of one w/whambulance on it) but If you must, feel free to continue w/this turn in the convo....I'd rather get back to to orginal topic but that's just me. |
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