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I think it's a new low for Barbara Walters...and Oprah. This is the stuff Jerry Springer is made of.

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1626078)

It is testicular formation that makes a male. NOT penile formation. The genes that make the penis are on other chromosomes, not the sex chromosomes.

Even in completely impoverished, malnourished conditions, the segregation of gender at least as the genetic level is maintained.

Fascinating! Thanks for the biology lesson. One thing I'd like to note, though, is that sex (female, male) is biological; gender (feminine, masculine, androgynous) is social.

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Originally Posted by kstar (Post 1625546)

Gender issues are a sensitive subject I know, but if someone says that they want to be identified as a man, they should be.

Well said. I don't believe it's our place to say otherwise. Besides, what's the need to pin this person down with labels, anyway? Unless you were hoping to date him, it shouldn't really concern you.

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1625988)

He's not a man by any sane standard

Not only is that inflammatory, but it also is a logical fallacy.

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1625988)

despite actually being biologically a women.

Debatable.

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1626479)

If this person is pumped full of artificial hormones in order to have male-characteristics and be legally "a man", I wonder what the health of the baby will be, being exposed to all of these unnatural hormone levels? Weird.

Eta: I say this because I read a book called "All She Wanted", by Aphrodite Jones, which was the story of Teena Brandon (i.e. the "Boys Don't Cry" movie). When Teena's Mom was pregnant with her, the Mom did take a short course of some type of hormone therapy (I can't remember what for...) and I'm convinced that the fetus of Teena being exposed to that adversely affected her.

I have to wonder also what effect those hormones will have on the first baby. According to what I have read, "he" did not go back on the hormones after the birth of the first baby. If so, how is it he still have facial hair?

Personally, I feel sorry for the children of this couple. Can you imagine the ridicule they are going to face growing up?

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Originally Posted by LightBulb (Post 1744341)

Fascinating! Thanks for the biology lesson. One thing I'd like to note, though, is that sex (female, male) is biological; gender (feminine, masculine, androgynous) is social.Well said. I don't believe it's our place to say otherwise. Besides, what's the need to pin this person down with labels, anyway? Unless you were hoping to date him, it shouldn't really concern you.

This needed to be said.

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1744319)

She's pregnant again

damn....use a CONDOM on that turkey baster!!!!