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AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583585)
Huh?

Whatever the case, it's okay for everyone to have opinions of the words being taken back. That doesn't mean that your opinion will matter in the grander scheme of things.

Similar to how there's a such thing as "queer studies" and a group called pinkpistols uses "f--" in some of their stuff. But the reference to "queer" and "f--" offends some homosexuals and nonhomosexuals because of their history. That doesn't mean those two words will stop being taken back and used by members of the group in question. That also doesn't mean that it becomes okay if nonhomosexuals begin to use those two words in a derogatory fashion.

All I care about is right now is being of African descent and young people coming up through the world having relativitist thinking without much consideration or care as to how it came to be that way.

It all seems copasetic until some lunatic starts calling a group of "us" in a tirade like Micheal Richards or some random smoked out reggae fan says he discovered ganga and do a "King" move on us making quadrillions.

Connotative definitions operate in a real time context. What one generation finds altruistic is later found to be dull then either good or evil.

Now many of us are old enough and strong enough to mutter through the mire and tell this young lady here is what you are going to face in real life or you all can curse me out and make yourselves feel better because you like the debase me. Either way, I have not lied. You look at all her posts and then make your decisions as to what to say to this child...

Sure, she could problem weather her own storms, that is a part of growing up, at the same time, we who have been here awhile have seen a shift in behavior and there is a reason.

DSTCHAOS 01-18-2008 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583693)
All I care about is right now is being of African descent and young people coming up through the world having relativitist thinking without much consideration or care as to how it came to be that way.

It all seems copasetic until some lunatic starts calling a group of "us" in a tirade like Micheal Richards or some random smoked out reggae fan says he discovered ganga and do a "King" move on us making quadrillions.

Connotative definitions operate in a real time context. What one generation finds altruistic is later found to be dull then either good or evil.

Now many of us are old enough and strong enough to mutter through the mire and tell this young lady here is what you are going to face in real life or you all can curse me out and make yourselves feel better because you like the debase me. Either way, I have not lied. You look at all her posts and then make your decisions as to what to say to this child...

Sure, she could problem weather her own storms, that is a part of growing up, at the same time, we who have been here awhile have seen a shift in behavior and there is a reason.

What in the hot-as-hell are you typing about?

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583703)
What in the hot-as-hell are you typing about?

What is your problem?

Senusret I 01-18-2008 09:21 PM

^^^ What is YOUR problem?

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1583708)
^^^ What is YOUR problem?

I hate you.

DSTCHAOS 01-18-2008 09:28 PM

LOL. Silly dillies.

I really try to read and understand AKA Monet's posts sometimes. When I get to a post like that one, it reminds me of why I tend to skip over her posts. :D

ETA: I believe she was essentially saying that younger people don't understand the history of these words.

My response: Well, teach them the history and let them make the choice. Because there will still be older and younger people who use these words. If "outsiders" try to use them, especially in a derogatory fashion, we shall handle that as it comes.

The End. Right? :D

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583715)
LOL. Silly dillies.

I really try to read and understand AKA Monet's posts sometimes. When I get to a post like that one, it reminds me of why I tend to skip over her posts. :D

Truth: is it the grammar? That is NOT my strong suit and I really suck at it. I work very hard to craft my sentences properly...

DSTCHAOS 01-18-2008 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583716)
Truth: is it the grammar? That is NOT my strong suit and I really suck at it. I work very hard to craft my sentences properly...

This is deja vu`. :)

I stepped away from the thread and came back with renewed patience. I now see what you were saying. I don't disagree with you, necessarily. I just don't see your goal. Is it to do away with these words? Bury the "nappy" word? :)

Senusret I 01-18-2008 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583709)
I hate you.

LOL..... good. because I'm out to get you.










We're ALL out to get you.











ALL OF US.

DSTCHAOS 01-18-2008 09:41 PM

LOL.

So, yeah, "happy to be nappy" and the Klan is trying to be relevantly newsworthy again.

Hippos are sooo dangerous. I'll "Random Thread" about it.

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1583725)
LOL..... good. because I'm out to get you.






We're ALL out to get you.















ALL OF US.


Well, here I am!!! CUM & GIT ME!!!

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g8...ons1xr6rq1.jpg

DSTKellie 01-18-2008 09:59 PM

Again I must applaud you NappyBison for your maturity and composition skills. :D

AKAMONET was that really neccesary?!?! I think you are very intelligent but your message sometimes gets lost with your over zealous attempts to prove how much information you can retain. Lighten up a little seesh:rolleyes:

DSTCHAOS 01-18-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583737)


Disturbing on so many levels.

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583724)
I just don't see your goal. Is it to do away with these words? Bury the "nappy" word? :)

Bury words, no. But to realize "meaning" behind "these" words--one's that are designed to subjugate us. Whether we like it or not, "we" are still defined what OTHERS say, regardless of how strong we "think" we are.

Quote:

If it may be said of the slavery era that the white man took the world and gave the Negro Jesus, then it may be said of the Reconstruction Era that the Southern aristocracy took the world and gave the poor white man Jim Crow. ... And when his wrinkled stomach cried out for the food that his empty pockets could not provide, he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that told him that no matter how bad off he was, at least he was a white man, better than the black man.

...

And his children, too, learned to feed upon Jim Crow, their last outpost of psychological oblivion.


--Dr. Martin Luther King

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTKellie (Post 1583739)
Again I must applaud you NappyBison for your maturity and composition skills. :D

AKAMONET was that really neccesary?!?! I think you are very intelligent but your message sometimes gets lost with your over zealous attempts to prove how much information you can retain. Lighten up a little seesh :rolleyes:

Thanks for the vote of confidence! But sometimes I have stoop to some people's level and ack a fool just as much as them! LOL

DSTKellie 01-18-2008 10:12 PM

^^^;)

DSTCHAOS 01-18-2008 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583748)
Bury words, no. But to realize "meaning" behind "these" words--one's that are designed to subjugate us. Whether we like it or not, "we" are still defined what OTHERS say, regardless of how strong we "think" we are.


I think that mission was accomplished before you began typing. :)

At the end of the day, I'd rather those who are "nappy" in the African diaspora (because not everyone is) to own this and not be ashamed of it. If they called it "thick and beeded scalped," the point is all the same. You can't stop people (including OTHERS) from thinking or saying whatever they choose, you can focus on how to address it when it begins to pose a problem. That's why there's a difference between "racism defined as hurt feelings" and "racism defined as negatively influencing life chances."

DSTCHAOS 01-18-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583751)
Thanks for the vote of confidence! But sometimes I have stoop to some people's level and ack a fool just as much as them! LOL

Perhaps you missed her point.

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583767)
I think that mission was accomplished before you began typing. :)

How much progress has been made for ourselves?


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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583767)
At the end of the day, I'd rather those who are "nappy" in the African diaspora (because not everyone is) to own this and not be ashamed of it. If they called it "thick and beeded scalped," the point is all the same. You can't stop people (including OTHERS) from thinking or saying whatever they choose, you can focus on how to address it when it begins to pose a problem. That's why there's a difference between "racism defined as hurt feelings" and "racism defined as negatively influencing life chances."

Michael Richards, Don Imus or "Jim Crow" were not trying to "hurt feelings". They did not give a rat's ass about their target's feelings. Whether they like realize it or not, they were "negatively influencing life's chances" through dogmatic obtrusive dehumanization. Then for at least "Mikey" and "Donnie", they met with Jesse and Al to "relieve" themselves of their hatred pangs.

What makes it worse is when these fools use these words publicly, the redeem themselves with Jesse or Al, kids are watching and so are others who make policy. Redemption should NOT be an arbiter through undesirables, redemption should have meaning in one's heart if they truly want to be forgiven...

At least the Klan will do that crap up front close and personal. Which is worse?

I have fought with the Klan, face to face, word for word. As my ancestors and parents are. I ain't skurred of 'em. But what about these kids today?

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583770)
Perhaps you missed her point.

What do you think? ;)

DaemonSeid 01-18-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583780)
At least the Klan will do that crap up front close and personal. Which is worse?

Actually, I kinda disagree...any man who hides behind his wife's or mama's good sheets and too scared to say how he feels to my face or too scared to say or do something without a rabble and some cops who feels likewise is a coward to me.

Heh

AKA_Monet 01-18-2008 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1583797)
Actually, I kinda disagree...any man who hides behind his wife's or mama's good sheets and too scared to say how he feels to my face or too scared to say or do something without a rabble and some cops who feels likewise is a coward to me.

Heh

That's what the Klan said when I fought with them and the National Guard was between us... Besides, there are skinheads that just wear jeans, t-shirt and steeltoed boots, and Dr. Duke wears a suit...

DSTCHAOS 01-18-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1583797)
Actually, I kinda disagree...any man who hides behind his wife's or mama's good sheets and too scared to say how he feels to my face or too scared to say or do something without a rabble and some cops who feels likewise is a coward to me.

Heh

Some Klan members wear sheets and some wear suits (and you would never know they were Klan members). They often march without their faces covered.

Whatever the case may be, they get no props from me.

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583781)
What do you think? ;)

I believe you missed her point but it's not surprising.

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583781)
Michael Richards, Don Imus or "Jim Crow" were not trying to "hurt feelings". They did not give a rat's ass about their target's feelings. Whether they like realize it or not, they were "negatively influencing life's chances" through dogmatic obtrusive dehumanization. Then for at least "Mikey" and "Donnie", they met with Jesse and Al to "relieve" themselves of their hatred pangs.

What makes it worse is when these fools use these words publicly, the redeem themselves with Jesse or Al, kids are watching and so are others who make policy. Redemption should NOT be an arbiter through undesirables, redemption should have meaning in one's heart if they truly want to be forgiven...

At least the Klan will do that crap up front close and personal. Which is worse?

I have fought with the Klan, face to face, word for word. As my ancestors and parents are. I ain't skurred of 'em. But what about these kids today?

You also missed my point.

AKA_Monet 01-19-2008 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583824)
I believe you missed her point but it's not surprising.

You also missed my point.

Please enlighten me since you are so familiar with the GC population's "poignancy"?

AKA_Monet 01-19-2008 02:19 AM

All I got to say is we have FAR to go...

Youtube of what some typical southerners really think, like the Kard Karrying Kind.

DSTKellie 01-19-2008 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583770)
Perhaps you missed her point.

She did...but why bother. :rolleyes:

AKA_Monet 01-19-2008 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTKellie (Post 1583857)
She did...but why bother. :rolleyes:

Please enlighten me since you are so familiar with the GC population's "poignancy"?

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2008 02:52 AM

Are you implying that the people you are typing to aren't poignant?

If so, how EYE-RON-ICK.

:D, anyway.

AKA_Monet 01-19-2008 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583866)
Are you implying that the people you are typing to aren't poignant?

If so, how EYE-RON-ICK.

:D, anyway.

You ASS-U-ME too much... :p

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2008 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583855)

And yet some manage to still be "happy to be nappy." Thank God for mutitasking.

[Southerners don't monopolize the market on bigotry and pardon me for not being excited by drunk white men at a game. Even if you were just trying to prove a point with that Youtube. I talk to people with bigoted ideas everyday and instead of being excited I discuss, inform, and move forward.]

Thetagirl218 01-19-2008 03:05 AM

This thread went from an article about the KKK being their racists selfs to a very disturbing picture of Richard Simmons that only made me throw up.....interesting...

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2008 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1583872)
This thread went from an article about the KKK being their racists selfs to a very disturbing picture of Richard Simmons that only made me throw up.....interesting...

Richard Simmons on a platter is a nightmare.

AKA_Monet 01-19-2008 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583871)
And yet some manage to still be "happy to be nappy." Thank God for mutitasking.

I don't do multitasking...

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583871)
[Southerners don't monopolize the market on bigotry and pardon me for not being excited by drunk white men at a game. Even if you were just trying to prove a point with that Youtube. I talk to people with bigoted ideas everyday and instead of being excited I discuss, inform, and move forward.]

There is no discussing or informing with anyone who is drunk... And yeah, we can all K.I.M.

NappyBison 01-19-2008 03:24 AM

*sigh* I don't expect every black person walking the face of God's green Earth to be a human history book. Yes, some terms used today are derived from negative meanings: Jigga Boo, N*gga, etc. but then there are some which no one can truly pinpoint an origin. Most of these terms used today where created by slave owners to pit us against ourselves in the first place.

Ex: Lighter (mulatto) skinned blacks vs Darker skinned blacks
"Good hair" vs "Bad Hair"
Bourgie vs country (that n_ _ _ _ _ thinks he's better than you)



One really has to question why we are hating on ourselves in the first place and why we don't tackle this self hate in the second place :confused:

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2008 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583869)
You ASS-U-ME too much... :p

I know. Just teasing for your use of "poignant." :p

She was just telling you that you are too intense for no reason. It wasn't about you "getting down on the level of the folkseses" or whatever you responded.

Of course it's okay to be intense sometimes when others aren't, but do so in a way that we don't need an interpreter. :D

DSTCHAOS 01-19-2008 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583876)
I

Exxxxxxxactly. :D

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1583876)
There is no discussing or informing with anyone who is drunk...

Uh...I was saying that I discuss and inform with the sober on a daily basis and don't care about the expressions of the drunk.

AKA_Monet 01-19-2008 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583879)
I know. Just teasing for your use of "poignant." :p

She was just telling you that you are too intense for no reason. It wasn't about you "getting down on the level of the folkseses" or whatever you responded.

Of course it's okay to be intense sometimes when others aren't, but do so in a way that we don't need an interpreter. :D

I am trying to be a FOX New Channel Radio Shock jock... :rolleyes:

AKA_Monet 01-19-2008 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NappyBison (Post 1583877)
One really has to question why we are hating on ourselves in the first place and why we don't tackle this self hate in the second place :confused:

Blame it on Gangsta Rap...

AKA_Monet 01-19-2008 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1583880)
Uh...I was saying that I discuss and inform with the sober on a daily basis and don't care about the expressions of the drunk.

I think folks the spew bigotry and hatred are unworthy enough for me to say anything to them. Why?


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