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FeeFee 12-03-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1556690)



LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Animate 12-03-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1556818)
Only one is shortened.

LMAO! How would you shorten Phi though? P? Ph? hi? i?

SydneyK 12-03-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1556787)
Fiji is an island, Phi Gam is a fraternity.
I know the history behind the name Fiji but still don't like it, it sounds goofy.

I generally don't accuse people of perping, but I've never heard any FIJI anywhere insult their own name (by calling it goofy-sounding).

ETA: I just read another post which indicates that this FIJI-objection is a chapter-wide thing. If that's the case, I retract my perp accusation. However, I've never met a FIJI chapter that, as a whole, refused to adopt its suggested nickname.

Edited again to say that I just went to Phi Gamma Delta's website where it clearly states that Phi Gamma Delta is to be called either FIJI or Phi Gam. Learn something new every day. My apologies to FIJI chapters who choose to call themselves Phi Gams.

AlphaFrog 12-03-2007 03:15 PM

This is the post that gets referred to a lot when this topic comes up. It's a pretty concise explanation of why the country example is ignorant.

SthrnZeta 12-03-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ISUKappa (Post 1556824)

Wow, I totally forgot about that :p Fair enough. I guess I just don't hit that search button on other members like some others do.... :rolleyes:;) Unless of course, you just remember all my posts...

Tom Earp 12-03-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1556816)
Two shortened greek letters? Pretty standard name chief.


You are correct in your response.

Each GLO may have a nick name so why do some want to make fun of it?

LXA goes by Lambda Chis or Choppers.

Shortening letters is common, AG, AS, SigEps, etc.

Nothing wrong with that is there Senusret I?

What does yours go by?

SthrnZeta 12-03-2007 03:26 PM

Sydney, nicely done, lol. I felt the same way you did but I'm glad you did a little research.

Senusret I 12-03-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1556862)
You are correct in your response.

Each GLO may have a nick name so why do some want to make fun of it?

LXA goes by Lambda Chis or Choppers.

Shortening letters is common, AG, AS, SigEps, etc.

Nothing wrong with that is there Senusret I?

What does yours go by?

Shut up.

Tom Earp 12-03-2007 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1556875)
Shut up.


Cute!:rolleyes:

AlphaFrog 12-03-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1556879)
Cute!

He is pretty cute. I'm glad you noticed.

Senusret I 12-03-2007 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1556880)
He is pretty cute. I'm glad you noticed.

Honey, even if he was my type, he wouldn't be able to use what he's got.

AlphaFrog 12-03-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1556881)
Honey, even if he was my type, he wouldn't be able to use what he's got.

http://images.scotsman.com/2007/08/2...IAGRA-LOVE.jpg

When Doves Cry 12-03-2007 04:00 PM

My ex-boyfriend said his fraternity didn't like being called a "frat"
I don't remember why
So whenever I hung out with him & his brothers, I would say "fraternity" but when I was just talking to someone who wasn't in one, I just say "frat" because it's shorter

Tom Earp 12-03-2007 04:00 PM

Ho Boy, really nice inane and snarky comments that help Greeks a lot!

Thank you very little!:rolleyes:

Senusret I 12-03-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1556893)
Ho Boy, really nice inane and snarky comments that help Greeks a lot!

Thank you very little!:rolleyes:

Your mother.

tld221 12-03-2007 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1556883)

he'll only take them if theyre crushed up and sprinkled on top of his Gooey Buns.

DSTCHAOS 12-03-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1556787)
Fiji is an island

We used to call the FIJI fraternity house "FIJI island." :)

ealymc 12-03-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1556599)
How long before someone brings up the "You wouldn't call your country...." example???:rolleyes:


I left it alone this time, AlphaFrog! :)

ealymc 12-03-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1556807)
PhiGam sounds queer.


Unexpected... but HILARIOUS!

AlphaFrog 12-04-2007 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ealymc (Post 1556976)
I left it alone this time, AlphaFrog! :)

You learn quickly, grasshopper.;)

Animate 12-04-2007 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1556854)
This is the post that gets referred to a lot when this topic comes up. It's a pretty concise explanation of why the country example is ignorant.

Thank you for showing me that there are people that take things way too seriously. I nearly died reading that thread. The "frat"/"count" errr "cunt" thing is uber-ridiculous. If you don't like being called that, fine; just don't try to tell me and my Phrat how to refer to each other.

gruber 12-11-2007 09:15 PM

a little OT, but since you brought up the "what do you call your country"...

I was at my grandmothers for, I believe, thanksgiving last year. I was sitting between my two cousins at the table (just the 3 of us at this table). The older one commented on my letters and called it a 'frat'. So I was like "I'm not in a frat..." that confused him so I explained its a fraternity "Same difference" "Well if you call your fraternity a frat, what do you call your country?" He looks at me for a second or two... "Um, America?" Said it again & he still didn't get it... His younger brother & I got a good laugh out of it though :)

PS Alphafrog... LOVE the sig file :D

LucyKKG 12-11-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gruber (Post 1561661)
"Well if you call your fraternity a frat, what do you call your country?"

I feel so stupid! I didn't get the "country" reference until this post! Ahhhh the hilarity!

KappaKittyCat 12-11-2007 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gruber (Post 1561661)
"Well if you call your fraternity a frat, what do you call your country?"

How 'bout this one: If pro is the opposite of con, then what's the opposite of progress?

fantASTic 12-11-2007 10:37 PM

See, the country thing never offended me because I don't place a lot of stock into swear words. It's not about the word; it's about what you MEAN. For example: A lot of people think that if they say, "Oh, Fudge!" it's better than saying, "Oh, F*ck!".

It's not.

It's the EXACT SAME MEANING. Therefore, it should cause the exact same amount of offense, and to me it does. The 'country' analogy, therefore, does not cause me offense because the 'c word' is simply another word for the female anatomy.

Drolefille 12-11-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1561726)
See, the country thing never offended me because I don't place a lot of stock into swear words. It's not about the word; it's about what you MEAN. For example: A lot of people think that if they say, "Oh, Fudge!" it's better than saying, "Oh, F*ck!".

It's not.

It's the EXACT SAME MEANING. Therefore, it should cause the exact same amount of offense, and to me it does. The 'country' analogy, therefore, does not cause me offense because the 'c word' is simply another word for the female anatomy.

*shrug* except that the C word is used to insult a woman by reducing her to that part of her anatomy. Intent matters more than literal meaning IMO.

fantASTic 12-11-2007 11:53 PM

Eh. Only you can allow yourself to feel inferior.

I've found that brushing off things like that make life go by much easier and with much less strain. Lots of words are insulting, and few make such a stink about them.

Senusret I 12-11-2007 11:55 PM

You don't have to feel inferior to be insulted.

Drolefille 12-12-2007 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1561795)
You don't have to feel inferior to be insulted.

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1561792)
Eh. Only you can allow yourself to feel inferior.

I've found that brushing off things like that make life go by much easier and with much less strain. Lots of words are insulting, and few make such a stink about them.

What he said. I'm not feeling inferior, and realistically someone who tried to use it to insult me would, 9 times out of 10 fail miserably. It would take extraordinary circumstances to insult me with it.... that said, the word is still demeaning and unnecessary and, except apparently in porn, not used in a simple anatomical manner.

fantASTic 12-12-2007 12:07 AM

Each to his or her own. It doesn't really affect me how you feel about curse words or whatnot, and good for you for expressing that opinion.

Back on topic..

Drolefille 12-12-2007 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1561813)
Each to his or her own. It doesn't really affect me how you feel about curse words or whatnot, and good for you for expressing that opinion.

Back on topic..

Okay thought we were just having a pleasant discussion.

There's not really much more to this topic anyway, the answers are either:
"I don't like frat"
"I use frat"
"I used frat until someone told me not to"
"I don't get that the NPHC often uses frat or frater"
"Ha ha country get it?"

Dougie 12-12-2007 08:46 AM

My apologies for bringing it back up, but when we were still re-colonizing a rather boisterous alum ORDERED us not to use the term “Frat” on the basis of the “You wouldn’t call your country…” analogy. Honestly, now that I think about it, that is probably why when all the brothers go out drinking we start drunkenly chanting “Frat! Frat! Frat!”

Oh, and as a side note, at that same meeting that same alum told one of the brothers that his mother was probably a whore. It was quite the evening…

SthrnZeta 12-12-2007 09:51 AM

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srmom 12-12-2007 10:49 AM

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See, the country thing never offended me because I don't place a lot of stock into swear words. It's not about the word; it's about what you MEAN. For example: A lot of people think that if they say, "Oh, Fudge!" it's better than saying, "Oh, F*ck!".

It's not.

It's the EXACT SAME MEANING. Therefore, it should cause the exact same amount of offense, and to me it does
You're joking right? You get offended if someone says "Oh, Fudge"?!!! But, do not get offended if someone says c*nt?

That's just nutty...

fantASTic 12-12-2007 10:56 AM

I didn't say I get offended at "Oh, fudge." I said I have the same level of offense as when someone uses the 'f word'. That level of offense is extremely low, almost so low as to be nonexistent. I DO, however, get annoyed when people claim that "Oh, Fudge!" is okay but "Oh, F***!" offends them.

AlphaFrog 12-12-2007 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1561988)
I didn't say I get offended at "Oh, fudge." I said I have the same level of offense as when someone uses the 'f word'. That level of offense is extremely low, almost so low as to be nonexistent. I DO, however, get annoyed when people claim that "Oh, Fudge!" is okay but "Oh, F***!" offends them.

I think you've got quite a backward view. If f*ck and fudge mean the same thing to you, that's great, but I don't think you get to impose that opinion on other people. And I certainly hope that you don't get "annoyed" when you use that kind of language around others who DO see it as offensive and those people deem you as trash.

Drolefille 12-12-2007 11:10 AM

I kind of get the point in that you mean fuck when you say fudge so what are you really benefiting by saying fudge instead?

Although not getting nearby parents with children giving you angry glares is a good reason. People censor themselves because of the offense level to OTHER people generally. I don't think many people self-censor in some smug attempt to not curse.

DSTCHAOS 12-12-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1561962)

I hate cats and this thread. :p

ladygreek 12-12-2007 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1561988)
I didn't say I get offended at "Oh, fudge." I said I have the same level of offense as when someone uses the 'f word'. That level of offense is extremely low, almost so low as to be nonexistent. I DO, however, get annoyed when people claim that "Oh, Fudge!" is okay but "Oh, F***!" offends them.

I say darn and shoot. Would you assume I really meant d**n and s**t? Because I mean what I would say, not anything else.

nittanyalum 12-12-2007 04:36 PM

I can guaran-dang-diggity-tee that I'd get waaaaaayyyyy more offended by someone calling me the c-word rather than some other negative term. There's only one way for that word to be used and intended -- look it up, it is always classified as "vulgar slang". It is NOT "just another term for the female anatomy."


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