Wow you're a condescending woman. I know, why don't you PM someone named Carnation and ask her her opinion?

This question is very inappropriate and gets squashed each and everytime it is asked. You never know who is reading these boards and no one here would ever badmouth another organization publicly, which is partly what you are asking people to do here.

Here is my opinion on ASU sororities: they're all different. Hopefully one of them will be a good fit for your daughter and she will find her home.

Now kindly stop with the condescending, patronizing tone.

And cue (sp?) the church choir.... hallejuha! (once again, sp?)

I live here and I don't love it. Not at all... Ha ha (OSU grad)

azmom, if you go to the recruitment forum and do a search for asu sororities you may be able to find some recruitment stories that would give you some answers to your question.

AZMOM -- It's really sweet of you to try to help your daughter, but you really must let her make the decision on her own.

During recruitment, she will get the chance to speak to all current sorority members about their experience in their houses and she can then make her decisions from there.

It shouldn't matter what others think about the chapters there, it should only matter what the pnm thinks. Tell her to go into recruitment with an open mind and if it's in the cards, she'll find a house to call home.

I go to ASU and am quite familiar with the sororities here. while each sorority has its own reputation it is completely inappropriate and unfair to divulge this information. Rush just finished up here and my brothers and i have had to refuse giving our opinions of houses to many of the new frosh we've met. we have alot of friends in different houses and it would be unfair to say don't join xyz b/c they party too much etc. etc. Let your daughter go through formal rush and decide for herself which chapters she has the best connection. I will give this advice, make sure her GPA is up, it is a big deciding factor on who gets called back here at ASU. Some friends of mine connected excellently with alot of houses but were not called back due to grades.

Thank you for taking the high road on this issue, Rufio! It's refreshing!

OMG what is up with people on GC lately. Seriously, maybe it's because I'm super stressed at work and way more emotional (and taking things "personally"), but WTF?

Seriously, all this mom did was come on and ask questions and the next thing she knows is she's totally getting "dissed" and "yelled at" by other members of GC. Does Barbara need to come to this thread and remind everyone of the TOS?

What is with people on GC? :confused: People have gotten so incredibly mean this recruitment season, it's downright sad.

Go ahead and flame me, yell at me, I'm used to it having been on GC so long, but why are we (GC members) attacking new GC members. :confused:

AZMOM- I pm'd you

You obviously didn't read her posts attacking Dani in the Fraternity Recruitment forum. :rolleyes: Barbara even had to clean up one of AZMom's posts.

With the exception of one or two posts, there's nothing wrong with telling the OP that questions of this nature don't get the best responses here. I've been watching this thread from the beginning and I have to admit, GCers usually known for being snarky have been playing nice and Barbara hasn't had to come in here yet.

Try and get the whole picture before you decide to come in here screaming bloody murder! And don't take your personal and emotional issues out on us. You don't want to be like some other people here. :) You're better than that.

OTW, I truly don't even know how to respond to your inaccurate information other than you're totally off base. You didn't read Dani's hateful, uncalled for comment to me or the fact that he set me up from the beginning with his answer. Go back and read it again. Please try to get your facts straight. So far, I have had no problems posting and don't even know who Barbara is. Speaking of which, where did you get that info. she had to clean-up one of my messages. Is she a moderator giving out that info. to this forum? If so, is that allowed?

AZMom,

Why don't you let your daughter decide how she wants to proceed with Greek Life? Going to college is a good start to learn how to deal with real life, and it's impossible for you to hold her hands throughout the way. Let her go to recruitment and see for herself. Tell her to keep an open minded and whatever she ends up being with, it's meant to be. Only SHE would know what's good for her or not, not you. So let her make the steps and choices. You have to let her go someone you know?

And not to mention, I've seen students with controlling (not meaning to say controlling) parents end up having a hard time to get situated with college and end up rebellion, because every little thing has to be consulted with the parents and they have to obey.

I was lucky enough to have parents who let me decide, and guess what? I earned my own tuition (plus loans) and learned so much more then I could ever imagine.

I guess my whole point is, let her do the work. You probably going to inhibit her learning experience...

Thank-you ASU....Finally someone who the question was intended for an ASU student. Your answer was great and your support even better. My original ? has been misread and no matter how many times I correct it they just aren't getting it. Ladies, go back and read the original post. Where does it say anything about girls living in the sororities? It doesn't and never did. I don't give a rats ass about what the girls are like living in these sororities I want to know about the chapters. What are the fees? What are the GPA requirements? Volunteer requirements? ETC. ETC. ETC. Man, some of you ladies, not all have got to get a life. You are scaring me. lol Is this how my daughter will turn out? Wow...scary. Again, some have been incredible. Thank-you. If she turns out like you, that's awesome.
Ladies, your making a mountain out of a moe hill. Go back, Go back Go back. Read the original post.......nothing is mentioned about the girls living there. GEEZ!!!

Nope, but I fear your daughter will turn out to be like you ..

Opps.. I'm j/k :p

Rufio, thank-you. Your GPA input was very helpful. Again, like a broken record this isn't about the girls living in the house. It's about the info. you just gave me. Thank-you......

Irishpipes,(we do love the Irish around here) my best friend is a graduate from OSU and I keep forgetting not to mention the words Sooners or OU around her. lol So, I'm very careful to say go Cowboys. I love OSU too. Hey, Garth Brooks!!!!! Who can beat that?

Hey Cutie, we are really close and I'm lucky to have her in my life. She's an incredible person. I'll take whatever credit I can get. I just wish I had her waistline and good looks. Gets that from her dad. If you knew me, I think you'd really like me away from this forum. Man, I don't know how people stay on this thing everyday. I'd be grumpy too.. opps... j/k

P.S. Cutie, she's very independent and she'd be the first to tell you she'll listen to what others have to say but she's calling the shots. It's her life and they'll be her decisions. That's my girl! She asked me do some research for her and I agreed. I think she can take it from her.

Well, as long as she asked you, then I understand that. It's one thing for a parent to take the initiative to do research and another thing for her to do it herself. But if I were her, I would rather do it myself, because you're talking about a life long commitment and it's best for the person themselves to learn about the process and keep an open mind.

Yes, being a parent does make you worry what goes on campus. But you should encourage her to do the research herself and not rely on you anymore.

Oh believe me, she'll be doing the lions share after this forum...lol She's going to school and working so I help only when "absolutely necessary." My 4 kids are "very independent." We(their dad & I) wouldn't have it any other way. Pretty proud of them. Great kids....oops adults.
Thanks......

This is the first post/thread (whatever) I've read from AZMom. So I don't have a clue (honestly) what you are talking about in the other thread. My reference to Barbara was based on what happened in LMV recruitment thread and how haywire that went.

I know on GC we (I think most people on GC) really do like to pride ourselves on being tolerant, but IMPO, we (GC, no individuals named here) haven't been too tolerant this recruitment season. Heck, I'll admit that last year I wasn't very tolerant of all the whining that went on from PNM's and others but I kept it to myself instead of starting a tiff online.

I don't know if people are fed up or what, but we are starting to take our, I don't know "issues" (for lack of a better word) out on each other and the OP's.

And OTW, going off what you said, I think we are all better than that. We just get caught in it.

Does any of this make sense?


OP= original poster? (blonde moment).

Best of luck to your daughter. I would not have inferred you were inquiring about GPA requirements, philanthropy, dues and socials from the question "What's your own personal take ... with each sorority?" I think any reasonable person would infer you were asking ASU students and alumni about their personal experiences with the sororities. And personal experiences with the sororities would likely be inferred as personal interactions with members, as the average person really isn't paying attention to other sororities' dues and GPA and volunteer requirements.

So from that, I don't see how the original question you posted was misread. Most of the posters who responded gave an answer that any reasonable person would give, whether they are an ASU student, a student at OU, Duke, an alum or a parent of a member. I regret that you feel you have been treated poorly, but the recommendation that we "need to get a life" is a bit out of line. I do take offense to that and so would many others.

Your daughter will learn all of these things at recruitment, in addition to getting a feel for each chapter. For now, she may call ASU's Office of Greek Life/Panhellenic Council to get some basic information over the phone regarding dues and GPA requirements. Most of the sororities have national and chapter web sites. She can get a better feel for the individual events and such. She will learn all about these, as well as volunteer requirements, during recruitment.

This is really insulting. If you are seeking to become a member of this online community, please curb the generalized attacks. People will be more inclined to want to assist you. That being said, welcome to Greek Chat. Please check out the below linked thread in my sig for a "Recruitment 101" post of anything and everything your daughter might like to know about recruitment in general. Any questions she has specific to ASU are best asked by an official representative of ASU sorority recruitment-- the Panhellenic Council at the university. Anything told to you by a member of Greek Chat is not bona fide information. This being the internet, you never truly know if you are actually talking to someone who is as credible as they claim. Be very careful of this, and make sure to verify information with an official source. Nothing on a message board is gospel!

All the best to you and your daughter as she begins college. ASU is a wonderful school with a great Greek System.

I've got this Buck Cherry song stuck in my head..."crazy bitch..."

Now, you must make your girls proud Alex....lol What sorority do you belong to? Can you say scary? Just playin w/ya....:)

The Panhellenic Creed

We, as Undergraduate Members of women's fraternities, stand for good scholarship, for guarding of good health, for maintenance of fine standards, and for serving, to the best of our ability, our college community. Cooperation for furthering fraternity life, in harmony with its best possibilities, is the ideal that shall guide our fraternity activities.

We, as Fraternity Women, stand for service through the development of character inspired by the close contact and deep friendship of individual fraternity and Panhellenic life. The opportunity for wide and wise human service, through mutual respect and helpfulness, is the tenet by which we strive to live.


Those of us who belong to a group in the NPC recognize that all of our organizations have a rich tradition and history. All of our organizations have stellar chapters and chapters that struggle. All of our organizations have certain expectations in common: Philanthropy, Scholarship, and Maintaining high ideals of womanhood. Therefore, in the Panhellenic spirit, we are not going to dish out "dirt" on any chapter at any university on a public internet forum. Additionally, the stereotypes that usually conveyed in response to a question such as your original question are usually wrong, like all stereotypes.

The best thing for your daughter to do is to go through recruitment, meet the women, think about which groups she feels connected with and attempt to get a bid from one of those groups through the formal recruitment system. It is kind of like buying a new house.. all houses have the same basic structure, but for some reason, when you walk into the right one, you know it.

As per your original post, highlighted in bold so you won't miss it:

So let me get this straight, you wanted our own personal takes on the good or bad volunteer opportunities? The good and bad fees? The good and bad GPA requirements? Um...yeah. I'm not buying the bullshit you're trying to sell us. You had every intention to come here and hear generalizations about the chapters (which you have a hard time understanding, logic tells us that chapters are made up by the women who are in the chapter)-which chapters are "good" and which chapters are "bad." You can try to backtrack now, and any sucker that believes you & wants to befriend you over it is fine by me, but don't be mad that we were sincere, honest, & polite with you when we told you that your question was impolite & tactless. If you don't want to hear the truth then don't post HERE!



Sometimes it doesn't matter how nicely you say something, compared to how some people get treated on this board we rolled out the red carpet for this helicopter mom.

No kidding. I've been trying to play nicer, seriously.

Had I know what a bitch this woman was going to be, I wouldn't have bothered with the niceties.

ETA: I think the reason (for future newbies' reference) why she "got the red carpet rolled out" is because, even though her question was inappropriate, she was still polite (at first) about it, and took the time to form spesfic questions. Unlike the huge amount of post-and-runs we get on here that start a thread saying "Tell me the reputations of the chapters at State U". I really believe that people get out of their answer what they put into their question. You make and effort, we make an effort. However, there are still certain questions, such as this one and NPHC membership questions, that never have and never will be answered here on GC, no matter how nicely the question is wrapped up.

I do indeed make my sorority and my sisters proud or I would never have gotten a bid :) I also know they're highly amused by my previous post.