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DaemonSeid 09-13-2007 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1518461)
Are you coming on to starang21? :confused:

:confused:x2 where did that come from?

DSTCHAOS 09-13-2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1518477)
:confused:x2 where did that come from?

My question, exactly.

starang21 09-13-2007 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1518461)
Are you coming on to starang21? :confused:

uhhhhh.....

you better claim what's yours.

DaemonSeid 09-13-2007 09:33 AM

Ok...this is really going in the absolute wrong direction...toss this thing in reverse and get back on topic.

DSTCHAOS 09-13-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1518494)
uhhhhh.....

you better claim what's yours.

I got dibs on that dark chocolate bar I saw at Whole Foods.

DSTCHAOS 09-13-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1518497)
Ok...this is really going in the absolute wrong direction...toss this thing in reverse and get back on topic.

Or what?

What more is there to say about this topic. The people who did this crime are facing the maximum but are not being charged with a hate crime at this time. End of story on that one.

Now if you want to talk about racism, in general, I'm sure OneTimeSBX would love to discuss 2 year old segregation at daycare with you. :D

AKA_Monet 09-13-2007 04:08 PM

I hope you fellas know the Dr. D got her Ph.D. in this topic and probably can out discuss you all night long... Just to let you know what you are up against.

However, I do have a question:

Dr. D,

Isn't "racism" contingent upon those who "purvey" power over another "group" who has little voice or power at the time of the incident?

This WVA woman, I think she was assaulted and raped. Whether she was African American made no difference or rather, the punches were "emboldened",--either way, she was beaten because she was a woman who visited a "trailer park" in the middle of the night for a date with a man--who happened to be caucasian...

The perpetrators of this crime will ultimately be punished--eventually...

The Jena 6--that is a mess waiting to happen. And it depends on how "LA-fied" folks are gonna be... Can we say Molotov Cocktails?

However, as long as I have lived, this always happens during an "economic slump" and "low morale and trust of the Feds". The Feds have forgotten the little people and the people are suffering.

That NJ thing... I cannot comment, because it seems serial killer(s) to me.

And the Maryland Noose... Burn Baby Burn... Sometimes, baptism by fire works. Wrong attitude and 2 wrongs don't make a right--but it sho does make it even... Or 3 wrongs make a left?

starang21 09-13-2007 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1518771)
I got dibs on that dark chocolate bar I saw at Whole Foods.

i guess no more snacks for you.

:(

DaemonSeid 09-13-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1518852)
I hope you fellas know the Dr. D got her Ph.D. in this topic and probably can out discuss you all night long...

ok...and?

Good for her....we don't need to debate or show who is smarter than who on this topic...that doesn't mean a damn thing when you are actually going thru this or see someone going thru this.

Those people who beat that girl (who also come to find out may also be mentally retarded) didn't need, have nor give a damn about a degree to do what they did.

nikki1920 09-14-2007 11:02 AM

I think the hate crime part was dropped because the jail time was longer without that label attached to the charges. If that makes sense. They would get less time in jail having been charged of a hate crime.

DSTCHAOS 09-14-2007 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1518852)
I hope you fellas know the Dr. D got her Ph.D. in this topic and probably can out discuss you all night long... Just to let you know what you are up against.

I'd rather you not do that. ;)

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1518852)

Isn't "racism" contingent upon those who "purvey" power over another "group" who has little voice or power at the time of the incident?

Yes, ma'am, many see "racism" as a power play and this conceptualization arose a few decades ago. And it can be about situational power dynamics but is more socially significant when we're discussing longstanding and across-context power dynamics.

DSTCHAOS 09-14-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki1920 (Post 1519301)
I think the hate crime part was dropped because the jail time was longer without that label attached to the charges. If that makes sense. They would get less time in jail having been charged of a hate crime.

Exactly.

And here's an update on the Jena 6:

Judge rules teen should not have been tried as an adult.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20779755/?GT1=10357

It's crazy because there are buses leaving cities like mine and going to Louisiana on the 19th and returning on the 20th. All to protest something that is working itself out without masses of people congregating. Some of whom may be too emotionally charged to protest this without screaming and becoming violent.

DSTCHAOS 09-14-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1518998)
ok...and?

Good for her....we don't need to debate or show who is smarter than who on this topic...that doesn't mean a damn thing when you are actually going thru this or see someone going thru this.

Those people who beat that girl (who also come to find out may also be mentally retarded) didn't need, have nor give a damn about a degree to do what they did.

See you could've easily responded differently to AKA Monet without appearing to be bent out of shape.

AKA Monet is talking about the more general topic for which you DID attempt to engage in a piss poor discussion of in the first page or so. You should've been smart enough to have figured that out even without a bunch of degrees. ;)

DSTCHAOS 09-14-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1518854)
i guess no more snacks for you.

:(

Filipino snack on mine, homie. :D

AKA_Monet 09-15-2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1518998)
ok...and?

Good for her....we don't need to debate or show who is smarter than who on this topic...that doesn't mean a damn thing when you are actually going thru this or see someone going thru this.

Those people who beat that girl (who also come to find out may also be mentally retarded) didn't need, have nor give a damn about a degree to do what they did.

This fight is one that we, collectively, will not win half cocked and pitching fits against. We have to THINK about our next move. It does not mean we do not prosecute under the full extent of the law...

You can be blinded by anger or you can processively THINK regards of the next course of action... You walking in with rage---well, "To whom the Gods wish to destroy... They must first make them angry"...

Reason must outweigh our hype. And there is a time for all things and an actions.



DSTChaos,

PM me when you get a chance and let me know. I only wish the best for you you. And I hope that your program is no HAYLE like the one I had to endure or my current situation... :o

DaemonSeid 09-16-2007 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1519994)
This fight is one that we, collectively, will not win half cocked and pitching fits against. We have to THINK about our next move. It does not mean we do not prosecute under the full extent of the law...

You can be blinded by anger or you can processively THINK regards of the next course of action... You walking in with rage---well, "To whom the Gods wish to destroy... They must first make them angry"...

Reason must outweigh our hype. And there is a time for all things and an actions.



DSTChaos,

PM me when you get a chance and let me know. I only wish the best for you you. And I hope that your program is no HAYLE like the one I had to endure or my current situation... :o


ok...you 2....

whatever...u all have a good weekend....

DaemonSeid 09-16-2007 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1519603)
Exactly.

And here's an update on the Jena 6:

Judge rules teen should not have been tried as an adult.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20779755/?GT1=10357

It's crazy because there are buses leaving cities like mine and going to Louisiana on the 19th and returning on the 20th. All to protest something that is working itself out without masses of people congregating. Some of whom may be too emotionally charged to protest this without screaming and becoming violent.

already been posted...

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=89587

...just returning an earlier favor Chaos ;)

DSTCHAOS 09-16-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1520136)
already been posted...

And I posted it again and gave my commentary.

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1520136)
...just returning an earlier favor Chaos

Whatever you're talking about.

DSTCHAOS 09-16-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1520135)
ok...you 2....

whatever...u all have a good weekend....


:confused:


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