Honey has been defunct for about 3-4 years now... I've never heard of Vibe Honey, but Vibe Vixen comes out every couple of months... It doesn't compare... Does anyone remember Suede magazine? It was huge and full of fabulous fashion... It probably cost too much to produce... I wish it was still in print though... (I know, I'm off topic, but I'm just following suit)

I remember trying to get a subscription to Honey and wondered why they never sent me a magazine. I found out later that they went bust (luckly I never paid any $ for it). Suede was started by Essence, but they never took off either. Now Vibe Vixen has either gone totally bust or they are doing it on only a special issue basis. The one with Rhianna was the last issue.

Maybe I'm in the age group that they are looking at, but I feel that a lot what Essence has applies to me. I've enjoyed a lot of their articles lately. I do want to add that I was actually kind of happy to see someone different on the cover (even if it was Keyshia). I was tired of seeing Queen Latifiah, Beyonce, Monique or Mary J on my cover (but I still do like them all).

Oops, that's what it is I'm getting! Vibe Vixen! :p The format is sooo much like Honey (although in Vibe Vixen, the color of their fonts are WAYYY too light).

I am a magazine junkie, but I never really cared for Suede or Savoy.

All of these magazines start to recycle the same stuff over and over again. The only one I read with consistency was Emerge because the articles about black politics and education were always hard hitting. Remember when they did a cover with Clarence Thomas on the cover entitled "Uncle Thomas" and had his head covered like Aunt Jemima. I knew they couldn't last long because advertisers would get scared.

Essence used to do 3-4 page feature stories that were in depth. Now they barely cover 2 full pages and the interviews are edited down to nothing. Guest celebrity writers is a pitiful concept because they always want to interject themselves instead of letting the person talk. I hated the interview that Terry McMillan did with Jill Scott. Oh, and I'm not sure if it was Essence or Heart and Soul that did an inteview with Nicole Ari Parker where she said she was angry all the time. Nobody even bothered to follow up with "why is that?"

I do better just reading the stuff from the internet and calling it a day.

I enjoyed Emerge. George Curry, its editor, is a whip-smart guy, but I am not surprised that Bwana :rolleyes: Bob Johnson pulled the plug on it, since he is about the bottom line.

I'm still trying to find the thread but Essense was bought out by either Conde Naste or Viacom or someone.. I had cancelled my subscription not long before that.

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Essence was bought by Time a few years ago.

Thank you

The direction of Essence may say alot about African American ownership and the direction the magazine takes as a part of a "little fish" in a multimedia conglomerate. By the way, Ed Lewis, the former chairman of Essence (who also was a pivotal figure in the establishment of Latina Magazine) is a Que.:)

The Princely Family of Liechtenstein is the wealthiest european royal family,and they are "low key," that is, they aren't much into the celebrity aspect of royalty.They work, fulfill their responsibilities and attempt to lead "normal" lives. In fact, Prince Maximilian, the husband of HSH Princess Angela, is a graduate of Harvard Business School, and worked in high finance in New York City when they met. He's now with an Industri Kapital,a private equity house in Germany.

I thought it was just me!

I love Essence, but I realized that I hadn't received my copy of the mag since...May...and I really didn't care. I'm in my late 30's...so maybe it's time for a new grown folks mag.

It's interesting because the new editor Angela Murray is around 38 years old.

I have to agree with the other posters, that story on Kim Porter was just ridiculous. Why do we care?? Not only has P-Duddy not married her ass after she had all these kids by him, but he's had very public open relationships with other women...J-Ho being at the top. But then she starts talking about "how Duddy came home to her anyway". *sigh* And throwing much shade at J-Ho. Just....no.

Now it's..."I can't take it anymore...but I had to sneak out...he'd never let me leave..." OMG...I am so not impressed with the theatrical diva antics...and the Oscar goes to...

sorry...but that just annoyed me for real...

Ok, I finally remembered to post here. I had found some links 3 or 4 years ago about this couple.

http://royal-weddings.tripod.com/weddingsma.htm

The royal forums-thread on HSH Princess Angela <--There are links in this one to pictures.

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus...tml?1126674389

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/top...ER00029665.jpg

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus.../2152/6635.jpg

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus.../2152/6637.jpg

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus.../2152/6679.jpg

I completely see and understand your point. But I work in "the business" and from an editorial standpoint, I also completely understand the decisions they are making.

Like it or not, Keyshia Cole (or however she spells it) is going to sell covers. Princess Angela won't, plain and simple. For that matter, Cathy Hughes on the cover won't sell either. It's no different than the reasons why (white) actresses are now routinely on the covers of high fashion mags like Vogue, etc., when a decade ago it was (white) "supermodels." Bottom line? Jennifer Anniston/Jessica Simpson/Angelina Jolie, etc. sells, and the models don't. Our mags are no different.

Journalism is not a science but it is tactile -- there are editorial decisions that are made that a segment of the audience will disagree with, but that the target demographic will love -- and purchase. That's really all they care about.

Regarding the 2nd Kim Porter story -- considering the turn of events (Diddy having yet another kid out of wedlock), and the prominent play that the first story got -- Essence had to do another story. And, appropriately, it was in the back of the magazine. It really was no different than a follow-up story in a newspaper. Sort of a "what do you think of this and how are you moving on?" story and Kim spoke her peace and now, I guarantee you, Essence is done with it.

Maybe it's "inside baseball," but from an editorial and fiscal standpoint, those were good decisions. Now, do I wish Essence (and Ebony, for that matter) would do better overall? YES. But that would require them to go the way of, say, Ms. magazine and stop trolling for advertising dollars altogether -- and are we prepared to pay $6 for what we claim we really want to read? That's another story altogether...

Then maybe it's time for a NEW magazine with a different demographic and relevant topics because it's apparent women (including myself ) are not happy with the current status quo.

I understand what you are saying about the cover, but from what others are saying there could have least been an article. I stopped buying Essesnce and Ebony years ago, because there were just fluff.

Also I agree with those who spoke about Emerge. It was a great magazine.

George Curry writing for Philly newspaper
 

Hey Soror,

George Curry is a columnist for the Philadelphia Inquirer now. I miss Emerge too and appreciated their "in yo face" journalist edge.

I could've swore that I just saw that mag on my BF table not more than 3 weeks ago. I think it was an updated publication :confused: You might want to see if they have a website or something. I think they are still around.
ETA: Yep, I believe their website is www.honeymag.com

Thank you for the update!! :)

Black Royalty: Mary Countess von Habsburg of Austria
 

From another blog:

Wow! I'm actually intrigued about how many sistas of royalty there are! We should be hearing more about this. This topic would make a great documentary!

Wow. I had no idea that we had contemporary people considered as royalty. I knew about the kings and queens from the days of old but had not heard about this modern phenom. Excellent. Thanks for posting.
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Surely you knew that Europe (and some other places) still has royal families, SummerChild. :) It's the only thing that many Americans know about that part of the world a la Queen Elizabeth II 'n dem.

What's been kept more of a secret is African Diasporic royalty in Europe and other parts of the world.

That's exactly what I was talking about. It never even dawned on me that someone would think that I was saying that I didn't know that there were royal families in the world.

LOL. Oh, you meant "we" as in black folkseseseses. I was hoping I missed something.

A recent pic of Princess Angela (at right)
 

From NYSD.com:

http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/i/...ein_082208.jpg

There are French Royals??? :confused:

Guess so...

Apparently, an antique car was illegally sold that belonged to a "French Royal" and the French government wants it back. I thought the royals were all murdered by the guillotine... But they are also calling Napoleon a royal since he a Josephine were Emperor and Empress... Then that all changed... And Napoleon moved to the Canary Islands.

I just found this interesting...

If France has a monarchy here would be it's King...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...de_Bourbon.jpg The house Legitimists... I think from actually the dispose Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette... However there is plenty of Spanish royal involvement...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...37;C3%A9on.JPG The house Bonaparte (Yeah like Napoleon)

Then the Orleanists--but there is drama involved there, too... I cannot find any pictures... And I think there are old laws against introducing royalty in the Republic of France...

You are correct about the laws. It is set up so that France would not even have a constitutional monarchy. French royals still exist by right of birth and/or marriage. Pre-Napoleon they were a bit more liberal in the application the term "royal". The title "Prince(ss) of the Blood" was used for a child, grandchild, great-grandchild etc...directly descended from a French monarch and was given at birth and considered royal. The title "Prince" was used by male spouses of a daughter, etc... only if the male came to the marriage with the title and considered royal. The title "Princess" was used by female spouses of sons, etc...automatically upon marriage and considered royal. Peerage titles that belong to the Royal Family like Duc d'Orleans or Duc d'Anjou pass along to heirs according to the Letters Patent for those titles. It is a tradition now since the French gov. no longer recognizes a monarchy or peerage. (A monarch or royal can be a peer, but a peer is not necessarily a monarch or a royal.)

To make this even more longwinded, Greece's Royal family was deposed beginning in the mid-20th century. Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh was Prince Philip of Greece before marriage as he was a lower son/grandson of a Greek monarch. When Greece finally abolished the monarchy altogether in the 1970's, the royals were/are still considered royals by other Royal Houses but usually the term "in exile" is used after their names. ie: His Royal Highness King Constantine of Greece, in exile.

Edinburgh (but pronounced ed-n-buhr-uh or ed-n-bruh). ;)

This thread is like a history lesson! Loves it! :)

It's been awhile for this thread but I came across this recent article I thought was interesting.

Dear World: Black Princesses DO Exist
THURSDAY NOV 18, 2010 – BY BRITNI DANIELLE


With the world clamoring over the engagement of Prince William and Kate Middleton, you’d think White, European women had a lock on Royal weddings, but you’d be wrong.

While many wonder what IS up with America’s obsession with the British royal family (I mean, didn’t we revolt against Monarchies?), others are looking forward to getting all of the details about their nuptials and tuning into the festivities like it’s 1981 all over again.
Read the rest here

THANK YOU FOR THIS!! I'm posting it on my Facebook page right now! ;)

I'm going to post this on my FB! :)

YW:)

This was a GREAT article! I never knew "the pantene girl" was a princess (Princess Keisha).

Off to post this on FB!

I posted this to my FB too :)

With all of the hoopla about William & Kate, I thought about this thread.

Yes, I know this thread is old but I came across this today. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/fai...rrier-21314290

"The Fairytale Wedding That Broke the Race Barrier
After marrying an aristocrat, Emma McQuiston will soon become Britain's first black marchioness. "