It's more than just not having the time, because if it was an organization that I thought was worth investing in then, any time would be necessary. But you have to understand that in order to reach an executive position I would have to actually go through the initiation process, pledge a few classes myself (all the while exemplifying the morals I'm against) then once I reach that position immediately denounce all I've ever gone through or done. Not to mention the chances of me being able to change Alpha chapter and HQ's mind's are slim to none.

I just think it's funny how just because I refuse to go through initiation and haze other pledges I'm being called out as having "no heart" and "no commitment" it would have been impossible to make it through pledging had been true. I've speant weeks staying up in bed agonizing myself over this decision.

The only chance I had to of changing the brotherhood was in the afformentioned posts above of the entire pledge class standing their ground against it. Unfortunately, the majority of my bros either have no opinion, or are firmly FOR the pledging process.

Not a single person who posted wants you to haze others.

That's just crazy talk because you are making excuses about not trying to make reforms.

I highly doubt your HQ is condoning the hazing.

Of course not!:rolleyes:

But you are going to tell me it is not happening at this particular chapter?:rolleyes:

So you're saying that your HQ not only condones the hazing, but requires it? I don't think so. The actives are lying to you again. I'd really love to see in some fraternity's bylaws that "taking wood" is required for initiation.

Wow. I am totally surprised that no one has said this already. Hazing is ILLEGAL. Not one HQ for any GLO (social or otherwise) condones this. Get out now. Pick up the phone and dial your HQ main number and let someone know what is happening.

True brothers (or sisters) don't haze in the first place.