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preciousjeni 03-12-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1616919)
What I don't understand (and if someone who is clued in can explain) is how the oil companies raise the cost of a barrel of oil. Let's say that two weeks ago, the cost per barrel was $60. It's at $70 today because a storm blew over a rig in the Gulf. Suddenly, Joe Schmo's Gas station raises the cost per gallon from $3.19 to 3.31, although he bought his gasoline at the $60 per barrell cost. How is that justifiable?

If only... we're closing in on $110/barrel. To attempt to answer your question, there is always a delay in the increase or decrease at the pump because of what you're talking about. But, it looks like you might not realize how quickly gasoline is consumed at gas stations. Most larger gas stations get their gas once a day or once every few days. Gas stations don't make a much of a profit on the gas - they make their money in the convenience store. It's the local government that rakes it in with the tax on gas.

Gas stations also play a balancing game with the price. Too much = consumers go elsewhere. Too little = not enough money to pay for the next day's gas off the truck and the gas runs out...end result, consumers go elsewhere.

Sister Havana 03-12-2008 03:51 PM

Gas prices jumped up to $3.43-$3.45 around here yesterday. I filled up (had half a tank left) at "only" $3.27 at a station that hadn't yet increased prices.

AGDee 03-12-2008 03:59 PM

I was excited to find a station that was at $3.19 yesterday. Most were $3.29. I was kicking myself for not buying it the night before when it was $3.09.

Then I think "It's really pathetic when I'm happy to pay $3.19."

ree-Xi 03-12-2008 06:35 PM

Here's an idea... let's cut the gasoline tax and recoup it with increasing tax on cigarrettes!

We need gasoline (and home heating fuels)...no one NEEDS cigs!
:p

Thetagirl218 03-13-2008 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1617078)
Here's an idea... let's cut the gasoline tax and recoup it with increasing tax on cigarrettes!

We need gasoline (and home heating fuels)...no one NEEDS cigs!
:p

The State of Florida is acutally thinking of raising the cigrraate tax by a dollar and a half. They are facing a huge deficit this year, thanks in part to our crazy governor who loves to spend money we just don't have! Ok, I will end my rant now! :rolleyes:

texas*princess 03-13-2008 08:47 AM

I live about 2 miles away from my office, and everywhere else I would possbily need to go is within about a 20 mile radius..... Generally I fill up my tank about once .. *maybe* twice a month.

Gas prices here used to be bad... then they went down again ($2.80/$2.90 range).. then all of a sudden it went up to $3.05... Ok cool.

Then I fill up my tank last week and it's $3.35/gal for the cheap stuff! :rolleyes:

Wowzers.

Supposedly it's only going to get worse. Maybe this is the scary media trying to freak everyone out, but I hear it's going to be over $4/gal for the cheap stuff by the end of Spring

ree-Xi 03-13-2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1616958)
If only... we're closing in on $110/barrel. To attempt to answer your question, there is always a delay in the increase or decrease at the pump because of what you're talking about. But, it looks like you might not realize how quickly gasoline is consumed at gas stations. Most larger gas stations get their gas once a day or once every few days. Gas stations don't make a much of a profit on the gas - they make their money in the convenience store. It's the local government that rakes it in with the tax on gas.

Gas stations also play a balancing game with the price. Too much = consumers go elsewhere. Too little = not enough money to pay for the next day's gas off the truck and the gas runs out...end result, consumers go elsewhere.

Thank you for breaking this down for me. I didn't understand how quickly the domino effect happened.

twinkle555 03-13-2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1617288)
Supposedly it's only going to get worse. Maybe this is the scary media trying to freak everyone out, but I hear it's going to be over $4/gal for the cheap stuff by the end of Spring

^^^oh shiz...$4/gal = I will die of starvation and be in debt til Im 90.

LaneSig 03-13-2008 03:30 PM

$3.14/regular unleaded in Dallas this morning.

Thetagirl218 03-14-2008 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1617528)
$3.14/regular unleaded in Dallas this morning.

You suck!! j/k

I just filled up my tank in Tampa Bay today at 3.23, and that was at a cheap gas station that was mostly out of gas! I love gas lines! :mad:

AKA_Monet 03-14-2008 02:21 AM

Smartcars? I'm about to get one. Yes, I know it's a driving coffin, but everytime I see one it cracks me up. And if my streets flood, it might float!

My areas gas prices are ~$3.50+. Costco gas is my friend!

cheerfulgreek 03-14-2008 03:02 AM

The prices here are $3.59/gallon. It's ridiculous! But right now we're caught between a rock and a hard place. We get a lot of our oil from Saudi Arabia, but there's plenty of it in Canada. In fact Canada is only 2nd to Saudi in oil reserves. The problem is it cost too much. It cost about $15 per barrel to produce when we can get it from Saudi Arabia for like $2.00.

I mentioned moving beyond fossil fuels in another thread. I mentioned that we should switch to corn ethanol, but unfortunately it wouldn't be a long term solution. What we can do is use Cellulosic ethanol, because it can be produced from pretty much any carbon based stock, like wood and solid waste. We have so many resources that are possible. I think with more efficient vehicles, alternate fuels and cleaner electric power all coming in the next few years, the high gas prices could be a thing of the past.

elusive47 03-14-2008 05:06 PM

You're lucky you don't live in England
 
"UK petrol price hits 5 Pounds a gallon"

http://www.whatcar.com/news-article.aspx?NA=231742

Since the prices in the above article are in pounds I've included a link to a currency conversion page.

http://www.xe.com/ucc

cheerfulgreek 03-16-2008 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elusive47 (Post 1618126)
"UK petrol price hits 5 Pounds a gallon"

http://www.whatcar.com/news-article.aspx?NA=231742

Since the prices in the above article are in pounds I've included a link to a currency conversion page.

http://www.xe.com/ucc

The prices are only gonna get worse everywhere.

aephi alum 03-16-2008 09:46 AM

Last time I filled up, I paid over $40. My car is pretty fuel efficient, but it only takes premium... $3.839/gal. :(

My husband, who just HAD to get an SUV :rolleyes: , just paid $50 to fill it up with the cheap stuff. "Cheap stuff" my ass.

We do have it better than much of the developed world, but still... damn.

jon1856 03-16-2008 12:53 PM

This site could become our "best friend" at least until something changes:
http://www.gasbuddy.com/

smiley21 03-16-2008 02:11 PM

In my two door car, I had to fill up the tank at $3.50/gal (premium gas). The total was $50.00 :(

sunnyhibiscus 04-22-2008 01:10 PM

Gas prices are now almost $3.70 on average. San Francisco is the highest at over $4.00.

It's not just gas prices, but food prices. A gallon of milk in my area is almost $5.00 at the most. Sad, real sad.

TrojanWoman 04-22-2008 04:23 PM

I'm in Los Angeles and filled up for $4.09 in the middle stuff. Premium was $4.19

Tom Earp 04-22-2008 05:40 PM

Kansas City=$3.69 the is the highest That if has ever been!:mad:

Oh, it is a screw job and no really knows care?:rolleyes:

Tom Earp 04-22-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1638386)
Kansas City=$3.69 the is the highest That if has ever been!:mad:

Oh, it is a screw job and no really knows care?:rolleyes:


OOPs came home today and is $3.89!

Guess I I will quit eating and not pay for Utilities!:rolleyes:

macallan25 04-22-2008 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1638386)
Kansas City=$3.69 the is the highest That if has ever been!:mad:

Oh, it is a screw job and no really knows care?:rolleyes:

How is it a "screw job" might I ask?

icelandelf 04-22-2008 09:53 PM

It took $74.00 to fill up my tank today. :(

BabyPiNK_FL 04-22-2008 10:11 PM

In Greater Miami/Ft. Lauderdale it's anywhere from $3.48ish-$3.79ish and that's for the regular. I used to fill up my used Honda in '03 for about $15. Now I can fill up my used Corolla for $38. I don't get paid more when gas rises and I don't think anyone else does either. Gas is eating away at my meager earnings...help me...help me...:p

jon1856 04-22-2008 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1638398)
How is it a "screw job" might I ask?

Well between the Pirates, criminals and terrorists blowing up pipe lines and tankers and speculators jacking up price of oil, Brother I would start to call it "a screw job".
Or something of that nature.
Add to that many of us driving "big rigs" and we are ****ing ourselves.

And to add salt to the wound, just saw a story in AutoWeek that shows driving a Hybrid does not mean you are saving any money! It truly depends on just what you spent on the vehicle and the price of gas.

If you own a sport/utility vehicle, the recent climb toward $4-per-gallon gasoline might have you gasping for air and looking at more fuel-efficient modes of transportation. No question, if you're using the sport/ute for one-person commuting, there are options that are easier on the wallet.
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...023/LATESTNEWS
Click on the chart for interesting details:
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...file=1023&CRED=

According to www.fueleconomy.gov, the Honda Civic Hybrid has the highest EPA combined mileage for a 2008 small car, at 42 mpg. (The 46-mpg Toyota Prius is classified as a midsize car.) Past champions in the federal fuel-economy derby have posted combined figures in the 50s. What happened?

First, the EPA revised its system for 2008, adjusting the numbers to reflect real-world mileage better. The same Civic Hybrid was rated at 50 mpg for '07. But that's not all. In the early '90s, the mpg top dog was the three-cylinder Geo Metro, a 1650-pound, three-cylinder, 1.0-liter shoebox rated at more than 52 mpg. Even using 2008 methodology, it matches the Prius at 46 mpg. The closest thing to a Metro in '08 is the 1807-pound, 1.0-liter Smart Fortwo, rated at a mere 36 mpg.

http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...023/LATESTNEWS

And for those wondering about cars rather than small SUVs-here is a chart of just 3 cars vs their hybrids counter-parts.
http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...6332&v=t106276
And just to keep chart within same family lines:
http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...5941&v=t105956

IIRC, we already had a CF/train wreck over the gas companies....

AGDee 04-22-2008 10:55 PM

My Chevy Aveo gets 30 mpg city, 35-38 highway. It has a very very small gas tank too though. I have to fill up every 4 work days at about $30 a fill up. That's still around $120 per pay period. I don't know how those with SUVs or F350's do it, honestly.

texas*princess 04-22-2008 11:28 PM

since i moved around 2 miles from work a year and a half ago, I've been filling up around once every 3-4 weeks which includes the traveling i do on the weekend.

This last weekend I went on a long drive to go to a friend's bridal shower which knocked me down to around 1/2 tank.

Normally I don't fill up again until I get a little below 1/4, but I will be filling up tomorrow... b/c I am scared to bits what the price for REGULAR will be in another week or two :(

I can't even imagine how those people who have long commutes do it.

This shizz is seriously cutting into my fun budget :(

macallan25 04-23-2008 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1638587)
Well between the Pirates, criminals and terrorists blowing up pipe lines and tankers and speculators jacking up price of oil, Brother I would start to call it "a screw job".
Or something of that nature.
Add to that many of us driving "big rigs" and we are ****ing ourselves.

And to add salt to the wound, just saw a story in AutoWeek that shows driving a Hybrid does not mean you are saving any money! It truly depends on just what you spent on the vehicle and the price of gas.

If you own a sport/utility vehicle, the recent climb toward $4-per-gallon gasoline might have you gasping for air and looking at more fuel-efficient modes of transportation. No question, if you're using the sport/ute for one-person commuting, there are options that are easier on the wallet.
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...023/LATESTNEWS
Click on the chart for interesting details:
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...file=1023&CRED=

According to www.fueleconomy.gov, the Honda Civic Hybrid has the highest EPA combined mileage for a 2008 small car, at 42 mpg. (The 46-mpg Toyota Prius is classified as a midsize car.) Past champions in the federal fuel-economy derby have posted combined figures in the 50s. What happened?

First, the EPA revised its system for 2008, adjusting the numbers to reflect real-world mileage better. The same Civic Hybrid was rated at 50 mpg for '07. But that's not all. In the early '90s, the mpg top dog was the three-cylinder Geo Metro, a 1650-pound, three-cylinder, 1.0-liter shoebox rated at more than 52 mpg. Even using 2008 methodology, it matches the Prius at 46 mpg. The closest thing to a Metro in '08 is the 1807-pound, 1.0-liter Smart Fortwo, rated at a mere 36 mpg.

http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...023/LATESTNEWS

IIRC, we already had a CF/train wreck over the gas companies....

Haha, I know. Just felt like a good time to have the Earp explain something.

I drive a new 4 wheel drive Tahoe. About 90$ to fillerup. Rock on.

Scandia 04-23-2008 07:04 AM

I fill my Corolla up about once a week. It takes about 30 bucks to fill it up. I remember when I got my first car back in 1995- it took 13 dollars to fill it up. I do have a 20 mile or so commute- sometimes with traffic. I can only imagine the nightmare it must be for people with SUVs.

My next car will definitely be a hybrid.

moe.ron 04-23-2008 07:09 AM

I bike to work.

jon1856 04-23-2008 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scandia (Post 1638685)
I fill my Corolla up about once a week. It takes about 30 bucks to fill it up. I remember when I got my first car back in 1995- it took 13 dollars to fill it up. I do have a 20 mile or so commute- sometimes with traffic. I can only imagine the nightmare it must be for people with SUVs.

My next car will definitely be a hybrid.

Scandia-Please read my above links about hybrids which I did edit and update a bit. I too was giving it some thought. Now I am giving it several thoughts.

RU OX Alum 04-23-2008 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1638687)
I bike to work.

i can't save up enough to buy a bike because I spent all my money on gas.

(kidding)

Avg price for regular (not scientific avgerage, just what I've noticed) is $3.50+ now, I'm glad I filled up the other day, but I know I will need to again.

Trey_P-I_47 04-23-2008 03:13 PM

Gas is skyrocketing in NC too....its average is $3.55+ per gallon.....not to mention my current vehicle is a Dodge Ram 1500, its really getting to be a nightmare. I actually tried to fill my truck up yesterday and the gas pump automatically stopped me at $75.00:eek:

Tom Earp 04-23-2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1638655)
Haha, I know. Just felt like a good time to have the Earp explain something.

I drive a new 4 wheel drive Tahoe. About 90$ to fillerup. Rock on.


Thank you for keeping the gas prices up you friggen gas hog!:rolleyes:

epchick 04-23-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1638589)
My Chevy Aveo gets 30 mpg city, 35-38 highway. It has a very very small gas tank too though. I have to fill up every 4 work days at about $30 a fill up. That's still around $120 per pay period. I don't know how those with SUVs or F350's do it, honestly.

Holy crap. Do you drive around a lot? Do you know how big your gas tank is?

$30 for 4 days is a whole lot. I have a Hyundai Sonata and I can usually go a week, maybe a week and a few days. It used to take about $30 for a tank of gas, but now w/ the gas prices its more like $35-40 (depending on how much gas i have left).

ThetaDancer 04-23-2008 05:11 PM

I just paid $3.79 for regular :(

ZTAngel 04-23-2008 05:21 PM

I paid $3.49 last night for regular. I can remember only 3 years ago when I was in shock that gas was starting to creep over that $2 mark. That's nothing now!

I really wish public transportation in Atlanta was better. :(

jon1856 04-23-2008 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTAngel (Post 1638991)
I paid $3.49 last night for regular. I can remember only 3 years ago when I was in shock that gas was starting to creep over that $2 mark. That's nothing now!

I really wish public transportation in Atlanta was better. :(

1995: Gas $1.14
1996: Gas $1.23
This weeks copy of AutoWeek can get one real depressed.:(

ZTAngel 04-23-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1638996)
1995: Gas $1.14
1996: Gas $1.23
This weeks copy of AutoWeek can get one real depressed.:(

And those prices are expensive compared to the prices back in 1999! I can remember seeing signs for 87 cents a gallon in Orlando circa 1999.

I really hope that in a few months we're not all saying,"3.49? That's nothing! I pay $5 now."

cutiepatootie 04-23-2008 06:47 PM

i just paid $3.89 for regular this morning and i traded down for a kia spectra...still hurts on a good gas friendly car


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