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Am I the only one wondering if this girl is for real? I mean like, HQ is telling her stuff no HQ would like ever say, and like, maybe she's hoping she can fake having been initiated so she can, ya know, just be, like, smuggled into the bestest, most popular sorority evar. Cuz, like, what's a girl whose been, like, part of the biggest paperwork snafu to do? |
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I havent worn any of my letters yet..i've just been wearing my bracelet that i always where. I didnt want them to be like "whos that ABC girl? where is she from" thats what i was thinking though about how they will probably wait until after rush so that they can give their bids. but my old prez told me that i have the upperhand, since im already a member of ABC. is that true? and the transfer lady at HQ told me that they kinda have to accept me, and that to her knowledge no one has ever been denied even if they are at total. and ur right i might not even like them, i mean i am going to give them a chance..i have to. ill most likely try to become close to their new members since im new too. im going to the interest meeting tonight..should i introduce myself?? |
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its not HQ fault at all, and im not blaming them, my old prez has just been irresponsible, b.c HQ would call her to tell her to do it and she still wouldnt. |
If the sorority never sent in any initiation paperwork to their HQ on you or your pledge sisters, then none of you are initiated members. The initiation was not conducted with the consent of HQ. If simply going through the initiation ceremony would make you a member of ABC, we wouldn't need chartered chapters and "underground chapters" could operate.
If, however, HQ, processed your initiation paperwork from scratch (and why they would take you at your word as being a member without any verification from the chapter is beyond me!), then your paperwork is filed, and you are an initiated member. Contact your chapter adviser from the former university and talk to her. Get a hold of those transfer forms, even if that is not your duty. Fill them out and flap where signatures are needed. Mail the forms to the chapter president via certified mail and include a self-addressed-stamped envelope so she has an easy method to send it back. You need to stay on top of this with phone calls, and in-person meetings as much as possible. Email is not a reliable form of communication from which to gain a response, except to serve as a paper trail. There is no guarantee that the chapter at the new campus will accept your transfer, nor that you will like the chapter at the new campus, even if the paperwork is processed. Good luck. Make this a priority if it is important to you. |
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THANKK YOUU!!! someone understandds! according to HQ like a week ago, i was in their database as "on hold" meaning that to them i have not been initiated. i was not an ABC according to HQ. thats what i was saying before, that i was going to cancel all my checks and have my chapter throw away my stuff, because at that point my mom wanted me out of it anyways. but i finally just called HQ fusterated that my prez wasnt doing her job, so they did the paperwork for me, and sent it over to my new campus. it is here now..as of yesterday(and i asked my prez to do this...ohh i dunno...beginning of Julyy)so now i am just waiting for them to e-mail me back inviting me to meet them. |
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i know im SO swervin in yall lane, but seriously, you said yourself that HQ didnt have you down as being an XYZ. i dunno, do HQs usually just "do paperwork" for PNMs like that at the busiest time of (NPC) sorority year? and kudos on your mom wanting you out of the sorority. and bigger kudos on wanting to throw all your para away. i bet you make a great sister. i jus feel like there's more to the story - why WOULDNT a chapter send papers to HQ if they initiated you? (and for my own knowledge, i recall from some retro thread, that when you transfer from State U to U State College as an XYZ, that it is very possible you may not become affiliated because of quotas, chapter fit and what not?) |
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If the OP initiated in April it seems logical (at least to me) that she wouldn't have her badge or any of that other stuff. But I dont know how other chapters handle stuff like that. |
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ok, point taken. hell, my HQ goes through the same ish. carry on. |
i guess it just varies from chapter to chapter on who handles the paperwork. when i called HQ for the first time when the lady told me that I hadnt been initiated according to HQ and their database, she was like "hmm nor have they sent in your badge forms, and member cards..ill have to give your prez a call" she didnt seem to happy. We filled out all our cards and things during the week of initation, and they said that we would recieve our pins at the first meeting. my sisters havent gotten them yet.
Personally, i just think that my chapter is very irresponsible, because all my sisters complain about how unorganized things are. |
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OP, if you are showing the attitude to the group that you are showing here, it's really no wonder than people aren't willing to help you. Let's be honest, would your group on your new campus have the impression that you are eager to be an asset to their chapter and assist them, or that you are kind of a high maintenance, demanding person who sees herself as entitled to service from the group and who relies on her mom to handle her issues. And yes, if your are going through the national HQ, the new chapter may be aware of how you are acting. Further, depending on the chapter and the group, your transfer into the new chapter may not be automatic, and you could really be shooting yourself in the foot. And I happen to think that if you had your membership in your group on facebook, that yes, people at the new school are going to remember and look into the situation further. I doubt it's as simple as re-rushing. You know you've been initiated; your old chapter knows you've been initiated. There's no way you could be a good member of a NPC group if you would disregard such a basic element of membership. Quit acting like the group revolves around you. It's a shame they didn't send in the paper work faster and provide you with better "customer" service, seeing as that seems to be how you see your role in the group. |
ok, i dont want the group revolve around me. HQ wasnt happy at my prez either...it wasnt just my mom and I. As i've posted before, NO I WILL NOT RE-RUSH because now papers are at this new school. and i now know whats going to happen next. Its my right to stay on top of it, it was her job to do it, and SHE NEVER DID IT...i was patient waiting for her to do it, I would e-mail her asking if she had filled it out. I never got a response from her, but then the next day i would get an e-mail from her saying "Hi ladies, schools starting, greek life is letting us help freshman move in, etc, etc" but i never got an answer from her whether or not she filled it out. so i assumed she was ignoring it, because she wasnt even giving me an answer as to whether she filled it out or not. so i called HQ and they did it before me like i said before.
you would be on top of something like this too if u were in my position... |
Um, no. While I would be interested in expediting the process, I would understand that formal recruitment season and the start of school wasn't really the time to be getting my mommy to call my IHQ.
And had you not mentioned your interest in re-rushing, I'd be a lot more sympathetic, but really your posts make clear what your priorities are: you, you, and more you. And a GLO might not find that so charming in an affiliate member. Remember that although you feel a great sense of urgency about affiliating, it's really not going to kill you to wait until it get straightened out. |
well now its all straightened out..and im waiting.
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It is COMPLETELY possible for a chapter to not accept a transfer student. It doesn't happen often, but there are extreme circumstances, and it seems like you appear to be creating some. In that case, the transfer is granted early alumna status. I say this all only because A) I DID transfer chapters B) We DID have one girl the chapter didn't take and C) I'm now the person in charge of helping transfers reaffiliate. Paperwork takes a REALLY LONG TIME. I sent the paperwork to HQ and my old chapter in April and by late OCTOBER it still wasn't done, so quit complaining. I had little to no contact with our transfers through this summer and recruitment. Let the poor chapter get their new members and then they'll take care of you - they have WAY too much on their plate right now! If by 2 weeks after recruitment you still haven't heard back from someone, then you can start getting on to people. They know you're there and TRUST ME, at this point it sounds like it would be impossible for them to forget you. I have a few questions: If you hated your old school so much and didn't get along with the girls in your chapter, then what makes you think sorority life is going to be different at your new school? Why do you want to be involved? Does it have anything to do with the fact that "Greek life is so big" at your new school? And please, for the love of Greekdom, learn to write properly. You're not 15 anymore and if you haven't learned at least semi-proper English you surely shouldn't be in college. /rant |
im only writing what the transfer lady from my org said in her e-mail. THATS exactly what she said "there are a lot of transfers every year, and to my knowledge, no one has ever been denied even if they were at total we worked through it to get them affliated" thats exactly what she said. I would show u the e-mail, but it was sent through my old school e-mail and that is no longer active.
here i joined a sorority because i loved the girls that were in it at my old school. greek life wasnt THAT big, but you defiently knew who was in it and who wasnt. my school was only 4,000 students. i wanted to join, because i've always been part of a group. I was in girl scouts for 9 years and I was on my high school colorguard team for 4 years. In each group everyone was very close with one another. I love having friends with the same common interest and because I never played sports in HS (I figure skated) i knew that i couldnt start one in college..duh..haha! so I thought a sorority was the next best thing, because we are all reaching towards a common goal;sisterhood. The girls in my pledge class were pretty close, or atleast the girls that were in my dorm that were part of my pledge class were. there were 9 girls not including me in my pledge class, but the reason why i feel that there was a lack of unity in my sorority was because we only did things together when we HAD to, other than that it would be "hey" if we walked by one of our sisters and that was it. Also during greek week, there were tonz of events, non of my sisters went, because either they were "too busy" or just plain didnt want to go. I wanted to go, but i was too insecure to go by myself and be the only ABC there. personally that doesnt seem like a sisterhood to me. During initation, half the time the girls were wispering to one another, slouching in their seat or not even paying attention. To me, that was rude. the reason i decided to transfer wasnt because I didnt like my sorority. The school was too small and they didnt have the major I wanted. I looked for a school that had my sorority, because I wanted to stay in it. Here, greek life isnt that big either. I mean there are 18,000 undergrads, so naturally tthere are more people that are greek, but its not a huge school where everyone goes greek. |
Good luck at your new school and keep us posted on the transfer. Be prepared if you do have the option to transfer into the new chapter. It can be a big adjustment, as the culture of this chapter may be very different than the one you joined. You'll have to make a lot of the effort to get to know the sisters, too.
Greek Chat Ladies, I don't want to delve too much into areas which are not my business, but I was under the impression that all NPC chapters have to receive a "release" or approval to initiate members before they may proceed with doing so, and then follow-up with post-initiation paperwork almost immediately following the initiation. Is this the case with most of your groups? As I said before, it only makes sense as being a chapter of a larger umbrella organization-- if you did not need some form of approval or authorization to initiate your members or some pre and post-follow-up, members could argue that they were free to initiate anyone, with or without an actual chartered chapter. Thus, if a chapter initiates a member or an entire class without some kind of formal communication to their HQ (initiation release form/post-initiation follow-up paperwork), the neophytes have not truly been initiated b/c the HQ does not recognize them as members. |
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You've already gotten lots of fantastic advice, so the moral of this thread is that if you love your sorority and want the best shot at reaffiliating, you have GOT to be patient. That doesn't mean ignoring HQ.... by all means call them up periodically (NICELY) to check the status of your initiation but for heaven's sake, no more having mom call HQs! Just take a deep breath and try not to let this get you bent out of shape. I know you're eager to try reaffiliating, but I'm sure many of us who have dealt with "nationals" can attest to the fact that it sometimes can be very slow going. Getting mad just raises your blood pressure but it rarely helps these things go any faster. In the mean time, try to get to know the chapter and maybe if they're on board they can pull some strings for you, or at least get the paperwork together so as soon as your initiation goes through the system, you can affiliate ASAP. |
yeah, im fine now...ive figured everything out.
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To the OP, calm down & let your new chapter have time to even go over your transfer papers, they're busy with rush at the moment, so it's going to take time obviously. I'm a transfer kid myself, it took 11 months for me to even get my badge... & that was "prioritized" just because I didn't want to be the only sister in the room without a badge & it was for Initiation at the nearby chapter for a local girl who was doing AI (my new school doesn't have my NPC sorority). And my membership card/shingle/certificate? HA! After almost 4 yrs (in a couple weeks), $$$ spent on all sorts of dues, some odd reason I NEVER got that, does that make me not a member? They said they'll get around to process that, but that was about 2 years ago...oh well. Even with leaving a forwarding address, maybe through all the transferring junk, your card/shingle/certificate will somehow go "missing" as well & you'll never get yours either, but it's just a problem that's part of life. Quote:
Be grateful & glad that your new school has a chapter of your sorority. My school doesn't have ours... during the spring & summer semesters, there are NPC girls advertising/flyering about Rush in the Fall in front of our Student Union (place notoriously known for organizations bombarding everyone with flyers just walking by), I walk by & get walked up to & asked if I would be interested in rushing in the Fall while being shoved a flyer into my hand about Rush, WHILE I have letters on. Wow... I know I look super young & could easily pass for a 17 yr old (heck when I was in Europe this past Spring Break, without asking my age, they automatically gave me "enfant" tickets everywhere we went & those tickets are for 16 I believe & younger LOL) , but still, I guess they aren't aware that the 1.5 inch letters on my totebag do stand for an NPC sorority. |
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There is an SDT chapter at my school. For my own reasons I won't affiliate with them. I wear my letters all the time. I sit in class with my sisters. If I ever heard them say a word about me behind my back they wouldn't know how to handle my reaction. Which would include a nice phone call to HQ. There is no reason not to wear letters if you can prove your a sister. |
Good luck, giggle! The situation sounds horribly frustrating, especially when being in a sorority is important to you. As others said, re-rushing doesn't seem like it would work out too well, and it would suck to be stuck with no sorority just because your first chapter is being irresponsible and inconsiderate. It will all work out. I really hope you love all the girls in your new chapter! Also, ignore the negativity on here- It's normal to want to vent about something so frustrating, and some people take the internetz :-p way too seriously
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If the President of your former chapter is/was late in getting paperwork and monies sent to National-shame on her, her regional rep and your National. While Greek Life may have some idea or clue; it would be better to work within your group. Yes, there are chapter advisers but I think you need to work within your National ladder. There must be area or regional reps for your group. They would be the ones to get both houses to get their acts in gear. IMHO |
Giggles, exactly when did you get initiated?
ETA: I can see it in the first post. Sorry. It was in April. School probably got out in May or June and started again in August. While I'm pretty sure that the local chapter president should have taken care of the paperwork immediately after the ceremony, I think we're still within a reasonable about of time for the GLO to be processing stuff. It's baffling that they'd have no records, as I think DBB noted, at HQ, but this attitude that the organization is grievously remiss might not be quite as apt as some of you think. It might be interesting to know what the typical turn around for this kind of paperwork is. |
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If your paperwork was in the day that you started this thread then what's your problem? You're either a troll or a dramaqueen. |
All right, well now that the chapter on your campus has your paperwork, like others have said - be patient - they will contact you. And after that happens you're going to have to be patient some more.
When I was an undergrad we had two members transfer into the chapter and one of them took a few months from the time that she first contacted us, through chapter approval and affiliation the other one took almost a semester and a half. Depending on the chapter approval process you might basically feel like you're going through recruitment all over again, as the members will want to have the opportunity to get to know you. Affiliation is not a 100% process. You could decide after you meet the women of your new chapter that they aren't what you'd hope for and decide to explore other options (not NPC chapters) just like they could choose not to affiliate you - but you'll always be a member. |
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C'mon now, AF. You know the space-time continuum was compromised when the prez didn't send in the paperwork to HQ on time.
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anyways, I am a sophmore, obviously i was just initated last April. My chapter CLEARLY doesnt know all the rules, or processes, nor did my prez let me know when I told her that this process takes time. so yeah, i was fusterated because this fusteration has just been a build of different situations that have happened! I began to not take my chapter seriously. there was NO sisterhood there. half the time girls wouldnt show up for meetings, go to events, etc. Our school had a panhellnic(sp?) car wash to raise money. I wanted to go, because you know car washes are fun and I wanted to raise money. All the girls in the other sororities went(there were 2 other sororities). Did any of the ABC girls show up? Only I and another girl, and THATS it. hmm...sounds like great sisterhood to me. Just little things like that really bothered me, but I didnt switch schools because of the sorority. I switch for other reasons that I wont justify on here. Yeah, but now with going on this and asking for advice, I got my questions answered, and for future reference I now know that process takes time |
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