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KSUViolet06 08-05-2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectinpurple (Post 1832327)

This exactly! During my recruitment I was dropped by a chapter I was a legacy to, and wasn't particularly thrilled with my invitations for the day. After a good long cry to my recruitment counselor she told me this (at least this was the gist of it):

"So what if ABC & XYZ didn't want you? Heck! ABC & XYZ didn't want me either. But I stuck with it, no matter how badly I wanted to drop out, or how bad I felt on the inside, or how much I felt like I wasn't as good as all the other girls who did get invited back to ABC & XYZ. And you know what? I couldn't be happier that ABC & XYZ dropped me, because otherwise I may have never become a part of the wonderful sisterhood I'm in now!"

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that a lot of other girls get dropped from houses they thought they were perfect for too. A lot of these girls end up as amazing sisters of other houses, who couldn't be happier, because they didn't take themselves out of recruitment.


This is good advice, but it's probably meant more for girls who don't end up in their top choice, not so much for those who didn't get bids at ALL.

If we had a "what to do if you don't get your first choice" thread, this would be perect for it.

KSUViolet06 06-27-2010 08:34 PM

Bumping for all the GC PNMs to read before 2010 recruitment.

FleurGirl 09-14-2010 05:40 PM

My 2 cents on some things to think about if you're considering releasing yourself.

1) Even if you're not happy with the groups you have left, stick around until pref night, no matter what. Even if you absolutely hate the group(s) you have left, you never know. Go through pref night and see what happens. You never know, the group you hated could end up being more amazing than you realized! Worst case scenario, if you still don't feel right after pref, you don't have to sign your card.

2) Remember, it only takes ONE! You could be dropped by every single group except for one after the very first night, and still end up being part of an amazing sisterhood! Again, even if it's the one group you loathed on the first night, give it a chance. You never know.

KSUViolet06 09-14-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FleurGirl (Post 1983529)
My 2 cents on some things to think about if you're considering releasing yourself.

1) Even if you're not happy with the groups you have left, stick around until pref night, no matter what. Even if you absolutely hate the group(s) you have left, you never know. Go through pref night and see what happens. You never know, the group you hated could end up being more amazing than you realized! Worst case scenario, if you still don't feel right after pref, you don't have to sign your card.

2) Remember, it only takes ONE! You could be dropped by every single group except for one after the very first night, and still end up being part of an amazing sisterhood! Again, even if it's the one group you loathed on the first night, give it a chance. You never know.

This thread is moreso for those girls who don't end up with bids at all.

Your advice would be better in this thread:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ghlight=choice

FleurGirl 09-16-2010 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1983614)
This thread is moreso for those girls who don't end up with bids at all.

Your advice would be better in this thread: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ghlight=choice

You're right, my mistake! :o

KSUViolet06 08-15-2011 01:22 AM

Bumping for the season.

There's good advice in the entire thread for those who wind up being released from recruitment/not getting a bid, but the best advice is here:



Quote:

Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap (Post 1512236)
This is my brutally honest advice. It's not very nice; it's blunt and it's not sugarcoated. However it IS based off of lots of experience personally dealing with disappointed PNMs, and based on some themes that have been especially prevalent on GC this recruitment season. I think its important for people to hear this straight instead of some of the sugary feel-good BS that people have shoveled to disappointed PNMs since the beginning of time. Here goes:

Handle the rejection gracefully:

It's absolutely fine to be disappointed if you've been released from recruitment. It's even fine to cry. It's crushing to really really want something for a whole summer or longer and have it not play out. Seriously, grab a tub of Ben & Jerry's (or a sheetcake, depending on how much of an emotional binge eater you are) and a movie and feel sorry for yourself for a day or two.

But get over it ASAP. I don't mean that you have to stop feeling bad, but stop dwelling on the rejection publicly. The longer you act like a dejected loser, or the longer you whine about how mean the sororities are for cutting you, the more unflattering assumptions people will make about your personal character.

I know this thread is about PNMs that are released from recruitment, but I've always wanted to say this, and I think I will while we're on the subject: If you got INTO a sorority, but just not the one you wanted, don't cry about it to your new sisters on Bid Night. It's unimaginably immature, rude, and hurtful. Just depledge like a normal person and don't drag other excited actives and pledge classmates down with you. If decide you're going to give the runner up sorority a good old "college try", keep your mouth shut about how bad you really wanted to be an XYZ.

Be honest with yourself:

If you've been dropped from recruitment, was it because YOU cut a lot of the chapters initially or because you had an unrealistic "XYZ or bust" mentality? I'm pretty sure a solid majority of PNMs believe they "belong" in Phi Beta Popular, but most probably don't. On campuses with solidly stratified Greek Life, there are far more "lower tier" chapters than top tier chapters -- there simply aren't enough spaces for everyone to get in the "top" four or five sororities.

And you know what? At the end of the day, the "lesser" chapters stay open, meet or exceed quota every year, win Greek Week, have amazing sisterhoods with great parties, and nobody sits around crying because they don't have Phi Beta Popular letters embroidered on their Vera Bradley tote. So suck it up, be honest with yourself, and move on.

Complete PNM freakshows are relatively rare, and I simply DON'T believe that all of our unsuccessful GC PNMs this season were completely socially incompetent enough to have had such brutally unfair recruitments, as we've been led to believe. I think more often than not, PNMs don't "play the game" right or aim only for the top-tier sororities and end up disappointed. I know it hurts to get cut by all the "popular" sororities, but be realistic. If you're an average looking brunette with average grades, average activities, an average bank account and average clothes (no matter what your mom says), you didn't stand a chance at getting a bid to the sorority that only takes beautiful blonde 4.0 pre-med beauty pageant humanitarians from the wealthiest suburb in the state. You've been kidding yourself if you thought otherwise.

Try, try again?:

COB can be a fantastic option for PNMs who had unsuccessful formal recruitments, and I highly recommend it, if you can have a mature and graceful perspective on the process. This means swallowing your pride -- go back to chapters that dropped you, or that you dropped after the first night! Yes, as MANY as you can....even the lower tier chapters.

No, they don't hate you. No, the chapter is not going to talk about what a desperate loser you are for showing up after you were one of 500 PNMs they dropped after the first night. Show grace, poise, and a general willingness to "wipe the slate clean." Drop all the notions you developed about sororities during formal recruitment. I've often said this but PNMs AND chapters are allowed to shine during COB in ways that they can't during 15min FR parties. Try to see the chapter with new eyes; they're most likely returning the favor in spending more time to get to know YOU.

If rerushing or COBing, don't make the same dumb mistakes:

If you've been cut by every chapter once during FR, don't KEEP setting yourself up for disappointment. Figure out what you've done wrong and what you can do better. Ask your most brutally honest friend to help you out. Do you talk too much? Are you a bad listener? Do you nervously laugh at inappropriate times? Is your voice too loud, or are you so shy that you come across as having the conversation skills of a mouse? Are your clothes smelly? Has some girl in your hall shit-talked about you to a bunch of sorority members because you slept with her boyfriend? Finding out what you did wrong or how you can improve can better inform your strategy for how you'll conduct yourself during rerushing or COB parties.

And for the love of god, DON'T just go to one COB party for the highest tiered chapter holding COB.

Don't hate on Greek Life

Becoming anti-sorority in the wake of being released from FR just makes you look like you've got a raging case of the jealousy virus. Sour grapes are never attractive. If XYZ dropped you, talking crap about them does not help you "save face," it just makes you look juvenile. If you realize sorority life isn't for you after all, then that's great! Move on with your life and don't dwell on the disappointments.

Moving on:

Get involved with clubs, meet people (how do you think re-rushers have successful second recruitments? THEY GOT OUT AND MET SORORITY WOMEN!), put your money where your mouth is about how much you loooooove philanthropy and volunteer for non-sorority philanthropic efforts on campus, study hard, pick your major, start a workout plan, do some research with a professor, get a boyfriend, get a job.... keep your life busy and you'll be that much more comfortable in your own skin. Maybe you'll even decide you're having so much fun at college that the idea of a sorority loses its appeal. Maybe you'll want to be in one even more.

The bottom line is that YOU and ONLY YOU are responsible for your happiness in a given situation. Life doesn't stop because you got dropped from sorority recruitment, and college is not going to suck just because you didn't get a bid the first time you rushed. Life is what you make of it, so dry your tears and get back in the game. Rejection can only make you stronger, and this is not the last time you'll ever be this disappointed. Think of this experience as a class in the School of Life, and allow yourself to learn from it instead of fighting it.


KSUViolet06 08-20-2011 01:27 PM

Bumping because I got a PM from a PNM looking for such a thread.

DeltaBetaBaby 09-10-2011 06:07 PM

I want to add something, because it seems like the worst cuts come after the second round. If you got most of your top choices after round 1, but then got dropped after round 2, it may be that you "misranked" the first night, and one of the chapters lower on your list may have been the best fit for you. I know it's not much consolation if you end up released, but you shouldn't think nobody wanted you. It's very possible that you were really wanted by one or more of the groups that you didn't go back to.

KSUViolet06 06-11-2012 06:06 PM

Bumping, because while it doesn't happen all the time, it definitely still happens. And AXOhSnap's advice was great here.

DubaiSis 06-11-2012 07:42 PM

I think DBB's and ACHIOhSnap's comments should really be taken to heart by rushees this fall. You don't want to undervalue yourself, but really think critically about where you fit and make your choices accordingly. Or split the difference and keep 1 dream chapter and move 1 to your ranked list. Just like in the college search, keeping a couple "safeties" in your back pocket is a good idea. Not very many girls go through with an invite list that matches their ranks exactly and you don't want to be that girl who ranks herself right out of any choices. And it absolutely happens. I feel like if you rank them in order of best to least FIT and not best to least social status, you may have a better outcome.

Depending on how competitive the school and chapter are and how rigorous RFM, some may really only be doing grade cuts after round 1 (or close to it), then BOOM, they cut you after round 2 when they have to start being more critical to narrow down their lists. That's just an example scenario, but the point is you might be thinking you're having a much better rush after round 1 than you actually are, without any change in your behavior.

Good luck to all. It's right around the corner!

carnation 07-17-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2090005)
I want to add something, because it seems like the worst cuts come after the second round. If you got most of your top choices after round 1, but then got dropped after round 2, it may be that you "misranked" the first night, and one of the chapters lower on your list may have been the best fit for you. I know it's not much consolation if you end up released, but you shouldn't think nobody wanted you. It's very possible that you were really wanted by one or more of the groups that you didn't go back to.

PNMs, please do rank carefully!

FSUZeta 07-17-2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2090005)
I want to add something, because it seems like the worst cuts come after the second round. If you got most of your top choices after round 1, but then got dropped after round 2, it may be that you "misranked" the first night, and one of the chapters lower on your list may have been the best fit for you. I know it's not much consolation if you end up released, but you shouldn't think nobody wanted you. It's very possible that you were really wanted by one or more of the groups that you didn't go back to.

PNMs really need to consider how good their chances are with all the chapters as they go through the recruitment process and rank accordingly. Hopefully every Sorority woman you meet will be gracious and make you feel welcome at their party, but understand that that is what they are supposed to do, and they should be acting that way toward EVERYONE they meet. It is tricky, but try not to get caught up in the reputation,songs, decorations and hoopla that accompanies recruitment. That is not what you should be basing your choices on.

wcjane 07-17-2012 01:29 PM

I'm reading and trying to absorb everything you're all saying. I'm also trying not to panic. I feel like it's like college admissions - dream school which has a 1% chance of happening, reach schools, 50-50 schools, safety schools. I'm ok with that. I have a completely open mind right now because I don't know any better. I'm a little nervous and hope I'm able to quickly figure out what is what for me and rank like I did for college admissions.

tcsparky 07-17-2012 03:06 PM

In another thread, someone mentioned having a "fallback" sorority when ranking. This can be hard for someone who isn't as savvy about the sorority tiers, but for a PNM who has done her homework, it sounds like it could be a strategy to keep from being completely released. As long as she honestly LIKES the fallback group and could see herself being happy there.

Cheerio 07-19-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wcjane (Post 2159714)
I'm reading and trying to absorb everything you're all saying. I'm also trying not to panic. I feel like it's like college admissions - dream school which has a 1% chance of happening, reach schools, 50-50 schools, safety schools. I'm ok with that. I have a completely open mind right now because I don't know any better. I'm a little nervous and hope I'm able to quickly figure out what is what for me and rank like I did for college admissions.

In preparation, you have been asking the right questions, and carefully reading the responses. I think you'll have a fine recruitment. :)

FleurGirl 07-19-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcsparky (Post 2159729)
In another thread, someone mentioned having a "fallback" sorority when ranking. This can be hard for someone who isn't as savvy about the sorority tiers, but for a PNM who has done her homework, it sounds like it could be a strategy to keep from being completely released. As long as she honestly LIKES the fallback group and could see herself being happy there.

I think this is a great idea. It's kind of like applying to college. I don't care if you're a 4.0 homecoming queen with a perfect SAT score who cured cancer her junior year, you don't just apply to Ivy League schools and expect it to happen. You apply to another school you like as well where your chances of being accepted are higher, just in case!

MTSUGURL 07-29-2013 05:06 PM

It's old, but I'm replying anyway - with my own experience as well as a bit of advice.

I went through recruitment as an upperclassmen, as a transfer and as a nontradional student. I had taken three years to work after I started out a very expensive private school with a major that I had no idea how I could use it in real life. (3 strikes already in most cases.) I had a less than stellar GPA. I was confident in who I was, I was involved in other campus organizations, and I had friends in sororities. I had recs for every group on campus but one that I assumed I wouldn't want, and 3 for my favorite.

Bottom line: I was not who they were looking for, but I was encouraged to try. I had been super involved in high school, but with an average GPA. I knew nothing about Greek life to the point that I pronounced Chi Omega wrong for 3 weeks before I went to school the first time and thought I wouldn't like Kappa Delta because one of their colors was green. I was the first in my family to go to a four year college, and if anyone I knew well was an an alumna of a sorority, they never mentioned it.

I was cut in the round before pref parties, and yes, I was disappointed. There were a few tears. I was drawn then not to the college experience, but the experience I could have as an alumna; honestly, this was the part I mourned. My Rho Chi was in tears, and actually met me with her twin sister who was also a Rho Chi and in the same sorority. She told me that I was a phenomenal person, and that had she been there she would have fought for me. I stayed close to these two girls for the rest of the time we were in college, and became good friends with a few other girls that I had met that told me how disappointed they were that they didn't see me again during recruitment.

No matter how much the girls in the sororities may have enjoyed my company, I was an illogical choice. They would have gotten two years out of me; being honest, I would likely not have enjoyed many mixers, etc. because I was simply in a different stage in my life. I do regret not going through recruitment MUCH sooner, and I regret not doing the research and preparation before I started my freshman year. I am still a bit wistful when friends talk about being involved in their alum chapters or helping out an active chapter, and if I have a daughter and it's something she wants to pursue I'll make sure she's more prepared than I was.

Be realistic. Know yourself and whether or not you can handle being rejected, but also if you go through recruitment and you are rejected, make an effort to nurture the friendships with girls that you feel you truly "clicked" with. You may have some wistfulness over this particular area in your life, and that's ok, but don't focus on it to the point that you miss some truly great experiences because they didn't come with Greek letters.

And PLEASE, PLEASE, if you join a service GLO, a local GLO, or another organization, go into it with a clean slate. They are different organizations with different purposes and structures. Love them for what they are and don't try to fit them into the mold of an NPC sorority.

misscherrypie 07-29-2013 06:01 PM

I pretty much went through almost the same sort of situation, so am offering my two cents.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MTSUGURL (Post 2227995)
It's old, but I'm replying anyway - with my own experience as well as a bit of advice.



I went through recruitment as an upperclassmen, as a transfer and as a nontradional student.


Bottom line: I was not who they were looking for, but I was encouraged to try.

I was completely released after second round, and yes, I was disappointed. To say the least.

Be realistic. Know yourself and whether or not you can handle being rejected, but also if you go through recruitment and you are rejected, make an effort to nurture the friendships with girls that you feel you truly "clicked" with. You may have some wistfulness over this particular area in your life, and that's ok, but don't focus on it to the point that you miss some truly great experiences because they didn't come with Greek letters.

Yes! Yes! Yes! I would NOT have become a member of an organization that offered many of the same experiences that I hoped to experience as a member of a NPC/MCG sorority if it wasn't for me going through recruitment. I daresay that I'd probably have had one friend for a short time, but I would NOT have made the lasting and heartfelt friendships that I've made during the past year since going through recruitment.

And PLEASE, PLEASE, if you join a service GLO, a local GLO, or another organization, go into it with a clean slate. They are different organizations with different purposes and structures. Love them for what they are and don't try to fit them into the mold of an NPC sorority.

I don't completely agree with this. If you want to be involved in an organization of a certain type, and those doors are closed for you....I daresay, get involved in activities that offer similar benefits. I did that (and Beta Sigma Phi isn't what I'm referring to) and it's proved to be the best decision that I could have ever made.

I will say, the Beta Sigma Phi chapter that I helped to found WAS started in an NPC mold. That was what we wanted and that was how we operated during the first few months of our existence. When we found that such a modus operandi was NOT what would allow us to thrive as a Beta Sigma Phi chapter and some disasters along the way, through pledge training and learning more about the organization that we are a part of......we began to modify how we operated. We still are proud of the traditions that we created as a chapter when we were founded.....but we have become much more...Beta-like in how we operate and what we do together as a chapter.

So, while I wouldn't recommend Beta Sigma Phi to all non-traditional students who are upperclasswomen who still feel the pull to become part of a sorority after being released from NPC Recruitment....it certainly was the right choice for me. I will admit that I struggled with my feelings of not belonging in the way in which I thought that I should have belonged for MONTHS after recruitment. To the point where I needed to seek therapy. Which I got and which did help.

Yet, I did find the right organizations to belong to. And I believe that is really, at the heart of it all, what women who are released from recruitment really want. Time does take care of the rest.


KSUViolet06 07-29-2013 07:36 PM

I think a lot of what you said is good advice.

You go on to talk about how you started out trying to make Beta more NPC like and how much trouble that caused you guys as newer members.

I would highly suggest that any PNM who chooses to join a non-NPC after recruitment AVOID doing that.

NPCs and orgs like Beta are apples to oranges. They are not similar.

They both have Greek letters but that's kind of where the similarities end.

It's important for PNMs to realize that you cannot substitute Beta, Alpha Phi Omega, etc. for an NPC experience.

Should you choose to join one of those, it's important to DIVORCE yourself from the expectation that your experience in this org is going to be like Delta Gamma, Chi O, etc. It's not.


If you spend all of your time trying to make Beta/APO/etc. like the orgs you didn't get a bid to, you're going to end up missing the point of your org entirely.

You're also going to end up alienating women who don't WANT BSPhi/APO to be like XO and are okay with it being WHAT IT IS.

Ex: If APO doesn't do Greek Week, and you join APO and constantly push for them to do Greek Week "like the sororities" you are going to start annoying people who REALLY DIDN'T JOIN APO FOR THAT.

So just recognize that these orgs are not a bandaid for a failed recruitment. They have their own things going on and you need to alter your expectations in order to fully appreciate them.

misscherrypie 07-29-2013 08:13 PM

KSUViolet: Perfectly stated!

misscherrypie 07-29-2013 08:27 PM

Another observation:
A lot of the same experiences I shared and still experience with my Beta sisters and with my Amby (Student Ambassadors) family are what I was looking for in NPC sorority life.
I've been to formals and socials and parties, spent nights getting dolled up with upteen girlfriends, we study together, and experienced the new member periods and go for late night runs for food, we've seen each other at our best and at our worst. We also share traditions and rituals and retreats and memories galore. Two of my Beta sisters graduated from school and the Ambys this year....and they passed on something special to me after they'd BOTH graduated, with the instruction to pass it on down to one of our fellow Beta/Amby sisters when I graduate next May since she will still be a student here. They'd received the object from an Amby before them, who received it from an Amby before THEM.

It was such a 'simple' thing.....but the meaning behind what they gave me....I just started to cry right then and there. And THAT was when I came to truly and utterly love the place in which I ended up.

They're not the same exact experiences, but you cannot make A peg fit into C hole. It just causes trouble, chaos and....shall we say it....doesn't make anything better. C peg fits into C hole perfectly and when you relax and enjoy (and don't forget about school! That comes first!) things will fall into place for you. I promise.

KSUViolet06 07-29-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTSUGURL (Post 2227995)
It's old, but I'm replying anyway - with my own experience as well as a bit of advice.

I went through recruitment as an upperclassmen, as a transfer and as a nontradional student. I had taken three years to work after I started out a very expensive private school with a major that I had no idea how I could use it in real life. (3 strikes already in most cases.) I had a less than stellar GPA. I was confident in who I was, I was involved in other campus organizations, and I had friends in sororities. I had recs for every group on campus but one that I assumed I wouldn't want, and 3 for my favorite.

Bottom line: I was not who they were looking for, but I was encouraged to try. I had been super involved in high school, but with an average GPA. I knew nothing about Greek life to the point that I pronounced Chi Omega wrong for 3 weeks before I went to school the first time and thought I wouldn't like Kappa Delta because one of their colors was green. I was the first in my family to go to a four year college, and if anyone I knew well was an an alumna of a sorority, they never mentioned it.

I was cut in the round before pref parties, and yes, I was disappointed. There were a few tears. I was drawn then not to the college experience, but the experience I could have as an alumna; honestly, this was the part I mourned. My Rho Chi was in tears, and actually met me with her twin sister who was also a Rho Chi and in the same sorority. She told me that I was a phenomenal person, and that had she been there she would have fought for me. I stayed close to these two girls for the rest of the time we were in college, and became good friends with a few other girls that I had met that told me how disappointed they were that they didn't see me again during recruitment.

No matter how much the girls in the sororities may have enjoyed my company, I was an illogical choice. They would have gotten two years out of me; being honest, I would likely not have enjoyed many mixers, etc. because I was simply in a different stage in my life. I do regret not going through recruitment MUCH sooner, and I regret not doing the research and preparation before I started my freshman year. I am still a bit wistful when friends talk about being involved in their alum chapters or helping out an active chapter, and if I have a daughter and it's something she wants to pursue I'll make sure she's more prepared than I was.

Be realistic. Know yourself and whether or not you can handle being rejected, but also if you go through recruitment and you are rejected, make an effort to nurture the friendships with girls that you feel you truly "clicked" with. You may have some wistfulness over this particular area in your life, and that's ok, but don't focus on it to the point that you miss some truly great experiences because they didn't come with Greek letters.

And PLEASE, PLEASE, if you join a service GLO, a local GLO, or another organization, go into it with a clean slate. They are different organizations with different purposes and structures. Love them for what they are and don't try to fit them into the mold of an NPC sorority.

First, fancy seeing you around these parts lately.

Second, I wanted to comment on the "staying friends with sorority members and Rho Chis" aspect of this post (for the benefit of other PNMs reading.)

Some people go on to make friends with their Rho Chis and other sorority members, so those relationships may continue after bid day for those who receive bids (as you will see each other at different events.)

I know we talk a lot about recruitment being a place to meet people and your Rho Chi being a great resource and possibly a shoulder to cry on. Those are true. Some people REMAIN friends with their Rho Chis even when they don't get bids (i.e. MTSUGurl.)

However, I would caution those who don't receive a bid to recognize that after Bid Day, your Rho Chi and sorority member friends go back to being sorority members.

This means that you may not travel in the same circles, see each other everyday, etc. Your sorority member friends and former Rho Chi may not have time to hang out or be your shoulder to cry on like they may have been before or during recruitment.

Please don't take offense to this. It's not that they don't like you, are avoiding you because you aren't Greek, etc. It's just that people get back to their busy lives, sorority membership, etc. and don't always have time to be your shoulder after recruitment is over.

I've seen women get really sad/offended that their Rho Chi doesn't want to hang out and stuff after Bid Day (esp. when said PNM is released.) So just something to think about. I'd never want a PNM to be like "I didn't get a bid, then after Bid Day my Rho Chi never hung out with me. I thought she was supposed to be my friend, what gives???"

MTSUGURL 07-30-2013 12:42 AM

I really believe that the reason that my Rho Chi and I stayed friends and I was able to build actual friendships with some of the other girls that I met was BECAUSE I was an upperclassman that had already had some other activities, other friends and other things that filled my time; these were also the girls more likely to be in my classes so we worked on projects together, etc. Recruitment, and then Omega Phi Alpha were a part of my life, but not my WHOLE life. I was able to talk to them about more than sorority recruitment, and of course never acted the part of the hanger-on that begged, "So do you think they'd want me now? Could you get me a bid?"

KSUViolet06 07-30-2013 11:25 AM

^^^Right. I don't know if anyone has had the experinece of having one of your friends not get a bid to your sorority, but it's awkward. Same for Rho Chis/SRCs who have girls in their groups who don't get bids. It's already awkward, but when that girl wants to hang out and talk about how she didn't get a bid or ask abour COR opportunities, it gets even MORE awkward.


gammaphislobeta 09-14-2013 02:02 AM

I have a second hand experience at University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa. My CA niece went thru rush as a Freshman in Fall 2012. She had a 3.0 GPA. She was told she needed a 3.0 to be successful in recruitment but this info was very misleading. No one cared that she had a diagnosed learning disability or that her Jr./Sr. years GPA was 3.8. She knew that it was going to be difficult from the get-go, especially for out-of-state girls. She had 1-2 recs for all but 2 houses. She had 6 years of community service, earning several awards for her work. She also had a 20 hour a week job for her Jr. and Sr. years. She was dropped by 13 of 18 houses the first day and retained only 1 house after the third day. She was assured that she would receive a bid to her sole remaining house had she remained in the process but she chose to drop out. After rush was over, she was told by several girls that they wanted to extend a bid to her but that the choice was not theirs (come to find out that is true after hearing about the AL sorority rush race scandal). She decided to meet and get to know as many Greeks as she could and to work hard on her GPA. This paid off. Not only did she improve her GPA (3.5 her first semester) but she changed her mind on her preferred sorority and received a bid during COB (continuous open bidding for those who find acronyms so annoying!) during Spring, 2013 semester. She is a very happy camper and her mother was happy she avoided the continuous partying subjected to Fall pledges (4 parties a week, rather hypocritical to ask an exhausted brand new freshman to retain their good GPAs under those circumstances). Her GPA did suffer but she has resolved to study in the library rather than the sorority "study room". There is hope after an unsuccessful rush, even at AL. She was planning on going thru Fall, 2013 rush until she received her bid in Spring, 2012. It would've been a nerve wracking experience but a strong girl is capable. Improving GPA, joining campus clubs, volunteering off-campus...any or all of these can help a previously unsuccessful rushee. Work hard, keep an open mind and meet new people. And good luck!

carnation 07-25-2015 01:40 PM

TTT!

AGDCanada11 07-26-2015 02:06 PM

Bumping this one! :)

Benzgirl 07-26-2015 06:21 PM

bump

SWTXBelle 07-26-2015 08:01 PM

Bump

carnation 07-27-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 1512257)

There are no "make-ups" or opportunities to learn why you did not "make the cut" at a particular sorority. The sororities are not required to discuss this with you nor will they make an exception and discuss this matter with you.

Sorority membership selection is privileged information known only by the collegiate members who are actually performing the selection. Alumnae and members at other colleges have no information regarding specifics to your recruitment.

If you are cut by a sorority, you have no alternative other than to accept it and move on. Period.

I want to reiterate this quote from earlier in the thread. I couldn't tell you how many friends and relatives of PNMs go on the warpath after recruitment, looking for reasons why the PNMs were cut. It rarely works because the sororities are going to circle the wagons.

KSUViolet06 07-27-2015 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2322930)
I want to reiterate this quote from earlier in the thread. I couldn't tell you how many friends and relatives of PNMs go on the warpath after recruitment, looking for reasons why the PNMs were cut. It rarely works because the sororities are going to circle the wagons.

Yes.

And I know it's hard, but folks need to RESIST the urge to call the chapter houses to question recruitment results. Most of the time, you just end up unloading on whichever poor active sister just happened to walk past it.


clemsongirl 07-27-2015 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2322971)
Yes.

And I know it's hard, but folks need to RESIST the urge to call the chapter houses to question recruitment results. Most of the time, you just end up unloading on whichever poor active sister just happened to walk past it.


When my mom was chapter president back in the dark ages (the drinking age was still 18 in Vermont!!), her younger sister went through recruitment at the University of New Hampshire and attended Preference round but did not receive a bid afterwards. She was called and offered a snap bid from a chapter she went to Pref with but she figured that they only wanted her for numbers if she hadn't matched with them in the first place, so she declined it. My mom told me she called the UNH Panhellenic president shouting and crying that her baby sister should have gotten a bid, because she would have been good enough to join ADPi if she'd gone through at UVM. It's just never a good idea, even if one's heart is in the right place.

Sidenote: I don't think it's even possible to "call" a chapter anymore and yell at a sister. We don't have a dedicated landline number for anyone to contact us with, instead listing emails as contact points on our chapter website. Maybe the inevitable march of technology has produced one good thing by insulating innocent sisters from angry family members and rec writers.


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