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amanda6035 09-04-2007 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1512361)
I think the phone calls are fine and better than making someone come in and get the news, but we don't need think of PNMs as such fragile flowers.

We had one girl who went through recruitment this year that did not get a bid to either sorority. It was the first time in 4 years that it's happened. The greek life advisor called the PNM, rather than making either of the 2 disaffiliated panhellenic officers look like "the bad guy."

rhoyaltempest 09-04-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1512322)
Really? Until the interview all you have seen is what is on paper.

Not true with Sigma. We still have interest groups and we encourage interests (in undergrad and grad) to attend events, volunteer, and get to know our members before intake. I know of many cases where invites to formal rush and interviews were not extended because the sorors didn't know the interests well enough. And I also know of situations where people didn't make it passed the interviews because the interview was the deciding factor if sorors weren't sure about whether or not they would extend an invitation to participate in intake.

ladygreek 09-04-2007 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1512735)
Not true with Sigma. We still have interest groups and we encourage interests (in undergrad and grad) to attend events, volunteer, and get to know our members before intake.

Yeah this makes a big difference. Our prospects are encouraged to attend our public events and of course they attend our parties - LOL. But we can't do anything that may appear to be a pre-intake activity (if you know what I mean.)

rhoyaltempest 09-04-2007 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1512773)
Yeah this makes a big difference. Our prospects are encouraged to attend our public events and of course they attend our parties - LOL. But we can't do anything that may appear to be a pre-intake activity (if you know what I mean.)

I do understand the thinking behind this but realistically, those chapters that are going to break the rules, will do so before and during intake.

ladygreek 09-04-2007 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1512819)
I do understand the thinking behind this but realistically, those chapters that are going to break the rules, will do so before and during intake.

True, but our legal liability is lessened by having the rules we do.

jubilance1922 09-04-2007 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1512735)
Not true with Sigma. We still have interest groups and we encourage interests (in undergrad and grad) to attend events, volunteer, and get to know our members before intake. I know of many cases where invites to formal rush and interviews were not extended because the sorors didn't know the interests well enough. And I also know of situations where people didn't make it passed the interviews because the interview was the deciding factor if sorors weren't sure about whether or not they would extend an invitation to participate in intake.

I was just gonna bring that up. You must be invited personally to our formal rush, which occurs before interviews. So if a woman is invited to formal rush, then at least one person in the chapter knows her beyond what's on paper.

Low C Sharp 09-04-2007 05:48 PM

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We had one girl who went through recruitment this year that did not get a bid to either sorority. It was the first time in 4 years that it's happened.
Wow. Is there a "weird rush story" there?
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rhoyaltempest 09-04-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1512833)
I was just gonna bring that up. You must be invited personally to our formal rush, which occurs before interviews. So if a woman is invited to formal rush, then at least one person in the chapter knows her beyond what's on paper.

Yeah, we really do value "Quality over Quantity." It really isn't just something we say because we are the smallest NPHC sorority.;) Despite our smaller size, I think the other NPHC orgs would be surprised at how many don't make it into Sigma Land, not because we are elitist but because we are selective. It is my hope that all the NPHC orgs will one day get back to being more selective. People can label us elitist all they want but we know what we want and need in our organizations.

ladygreek 09-04-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1512872)
Yeah, we really do value "Quality over Quantity." It really isn't just something we say because we are the smallest NPHC sorority.;) Despite our smaller size, I think the other NPHC orgs would be surprised at how many don't make it into Sigma Land, not because we are elitist but because we are selective. It is my hope that all the NPHC orgs will one day get back to being more selective. People can label us elitist all they want but we know what we want and need in our organizations.

How did you translate what has been said into the other HPHCs aren't selective?

And we really do value quality over quantity, too. Raw numbers may not show that because of the number of applicants we get, but percentages of applicants who make it v. those that don't, would.

For example a line of 50 from a pool of 300 that meet the minimum requirements is 16.7 percent. A line of 17 from an eligible pool of 100, is 17 percent. And if you then add in the applicants that did not meet the minimum requirement (the first phase of selection) the percents are even lower.

And I wouldn't be surprised at how many don't make it into Sigma Land. I WOULD be surprised if everyone who tried, did.

You took this in a direction the rest of us were not interested in going.

rhoyaltempest 09-04-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1512880)
How did you translate what has been said into the other HPHCs aren't selective?

And we really do value quality over quantity, too. Raw numbers may not show that because of the number of applicants we get, but percentages of applicants who make it v. those that don't, would.

For example a line of 50 from a pool of 300 that meet the minimum requirements is 16.7 percent. A line of 17 from an eligible pool of 100, is 17 percent. And if you then add in the applicants that did not meet the minimum requirement (the first phase of selection) the percents are even lower.

And I wouldn't be surprised at how many don't make it into Sigma Land. I WOULD be surprised if everyone who tried, did.

You took this in a direction the rest of us were not interested in going.

You took this the wrong way totally. I don't think any of the NPHC orgs (including mine) are as selective as we once used to be and there are a lot of factors around the reasons why. I think the intake process vs. "pledging" is one big factor for example.

tld221 09-04-2007 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1512909)
You took this the wrong way totally. I don't think any of the NPHC orgs (including mine) are as selective as we once used to be and there are a lot of factors around the reasons why. I think the intake process vs. "pledging" is one big factor for example.

now THIS would be taking this in a direction the rest of us aren't interested in going.

chalk it up to miscommunication (rhoyaltempest ;)) and different strokes for different folks (ladygreek)?

CarolinaDG 09-04-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 1512835)
Wow. Is there a "weird rush story" there?


The year I pledged, there was a girl who went through formal rush and got cut from all, went through COB for 2 sororities and got cut from both of them, then went through COB for the same other 2 sororities in the spring, and finally the one extended a bid.

amanda6035 09-05-2007 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp (Post 1512835)
Wow. Is there a "weird rush story" there?

I'll send ya a PM about it....


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