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whiteandblack 10-14-2007 03:03 PM

yes, that ultra short cut looks beautiful on bianca.

KDAngel 10-18-2007 02:55 PM

Totally OK with Janet leaving.

LeslieAGD 10-18-2007 03:14 PM

I really thought it should have been Sarah that left this week.

KDAngel 10-18-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LeslieAGD (Post 1539068)
I really thought it should have been Sarah that left this week.

Sarah WILL go sometime soon, I'd imagine. But as long as the few girls I really want to stick around a while are there, I'm OK with other people who don't bring anything great leaving.

I thought it was going to be Ambreal.

LeslieAGD 10-18-2007 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KDAngel (Post 1539085)
Sarah WILL go sometime soon, I'd imagine. But as long as the few girls I really want to stick around a while are there, I'm OK with other people who don't bring anything great leaving.

I thought it was going to be Ambreal.

Well, the judges pretty much ripped on Sarah for not completing the challenge as directed.
I wasn't a fan of Janet's, but I definitely don't think she was the worst this week.
When Sarah wasn't in the bottom two, I also really thought it would be Ambreal.

I am just hoping that Chantal, Lisa, and Heather stick around.

christiangirl 10-18-2007 11:28 PM

I thought they should've done a double elimination and sent home Janet and Sarah. The season doesn't usually get good until it's just the talented ones left (because they're the ones who the drama usually centers around). ;)

I hate Saleisha's hair! It's more high fashion, but it's really not very pretty to me. I think with her talent and experience, they purposely gave her a hairstyle that was hard to work with, which really isn't very fair. While their reason for leaving Heather's hair the way it was is valid, I can't help but notice that Heather, who has no experience and a "disability," was left her in her comfort zone. I don't think Heather will win, but she still intrigues me. I think she's going to blossom during the season. Ambreal seems to be another Melrose--so concerned with perfection that she misses the mark entirely. I think she'll end up going the same route. Honestly, I think it'll be Lisa, but time might change my mind.

smiley21 10-25-2007 10:04 AM

That was a nice little twist at the end. I am so glad Ebony went home!

Fleur de Lis 10-25-2007 11:17 AM

I was laughing at the ending! Ambreal kept saying "thank you God" and I thought, "she should be saying thank you Ebony".

I haven't decided on a favorite yet. I liked Jenah's look in the beginning, but her ratty extensions make her look awful. I like Chantal's look but everything she says seems SO airheaded. Heather keeps winning "Cover Girl of the Week" - I wonder if it will be another sweep like Cycle 4 with Naima?

Infamous12 10-25-2007 02:52 PM

I am not a fan of Lisa's at all, that whole exotic dancer act at the beginning turned me off. (It may also be because I thought she was going to be a "Jade"...and because her name is Lisa, just like the crazy Lisa of the past.)

I've also never been a fan of Ebony's and was definitely relieved when she took herself home. She entered the competition so fierce, but definitely lost it when she tried to 'be nice' so that the other girls would like her. Womp womp.

As well as Heather is doing, the social aspect of modeling will not be her strong suit, and I think that may hinder her from being the winner. Other than Heather- Chantal, Bianca (she's growing on me) & sometimes Saleisha are my picks. Jenah takes some great shots, but I can't get past the 'trailer-trash' look she goes for at panel. :o

jojapeach 10-25-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Infamous12 (Post 1541790)
Jenah takes some great shots, but I can't get past the 'trailer-trash' look she goes for at panel. :o

Wow... But so accurate!

There is not favorite right now, but I was really digging Heather's picture. She did a great job and looked stunning. I still like Saleisha. Bianca would've been cool, but the "hater" label that they've put on her is stuck in my head.

KDAngel 10-29-2007 11:08 AM

Heather was GORGEOUS at the shoot with Mary J. Blige. And she was far from shy with Tyson Beckford. Of course she was shy afterwards, but she totally went for it. Consider me impressed.

Bianca's growing on me.

Jenah take gorgeous pics, but her hair is so not cute when she does it herself.

Everyone else can go home. Even Chantal, who I want to like more, but her pics are nothing special to me.

ASUADPi 10-29-2007 10:34 PM

The thing though with Heather, and I'm seeing this purely from a sped and "social" standpoint, what an impact she would make. There aren't many people in entertainment (modeling, acting, etc...) that have disabilities. And when I say disabilities I am talking mental disabilities (Learning disabled, Mildly or moderately mentally retarded, Autism (or in Heather case Asbergers). Yes, there are people with disabilities (cancer, Hodgkins, etc...). I don't know I just think it would be so POWERFUL for Heather to be a spokesperson for people with Austim spectrum disorders to say "yes, you can do this!".

Plus, if they can choose Jaslene, who can't FRICKIN TALK! Seriously, they need to put subtitles for us viewers when we watch the stupid "my life as a cover girl" commercials, because I'm getting every other word from her mouth. Plus, it's retarded how the make her talk so slow. It just makes her sound even more stupid, IMPO.

Surely they can have a model who is absolutely beautiful, takes amazing pictures and I'm sure has a good runway walk, but is "socially akward".

Fleur de Lis 10-30-2007 11:17 AM

I'm also having a hard time with Jaslene's "My Life as a Cover Girl" spots. I really loved her during the season and didn't have trouble understanding her, but now she's driving me a little crazy. They gave Danielle (Dani?) SO much trouble for her accent, but not to Jaslene.

KDAngel 11-26-2007 12:08 AM

OK, so Bianca is SUCH a pretty girl but when she starts making fun of Heather I just want to reach through the TV and punch her. If I was a mother of a young girl watching the show, she is DEFINITELY not someone I'd want my daughter looking up to.

Infamous12 11-26-2007 10:11 AM

I am confused...
 
Am I the only one who was shocked that they sent Lisa home over Heather? Heather takes great photos, but what good is that going to do if she can't even communicate? You can't be a silent spokesperson. I honestly feel like Heather is going to get sent home...they're just delaying it bc they don't want it to be because of her condition.

LeslieAGD 11-26-2007 07:02 PM

I was not surprised they sent Lisa home, but I was a little disappointed. Of course, I wish it had been Bianca. I don't think she's pretty AT ALL...and I can't believe that Cover Girl would want someone as rude and mean to represent their company.

In regards to Heather's performance, I like that Tyra addressed that the show knew about her difficulty speaking (as related to her autism) and invited her to be in the competition so they have to cut her some slack...but I do agree that if you are being fed the lines then the performance should be that much better than the others.

I really would like to see Chantal win. She was one of my picks from before the season started, and I think she's different than all the previous winners. Her pictures are great and her CG commercial was fresh and likeable. I would like to see her and Saleisha in the final two.

33girl 11-26-2007 07:19 PM

I absolutely cannot stand Heather, and I don't think her pics are that great at all. She just looks like a plain girl with long dark hair. If she wins, it's definitely a pity win because of her disability. Which is crap.

I'm getting used to Saleisha's Tootie hair, and I like her personality, but none of them really stand out for me.

LeslieAGD 11-26-2007 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1553227)
I absolutely cannot stand Heather, and I don't think her pics are that great at all. If she wins, it's definitely a pity win because of her disability. Which is crap.

Heather is not my pick to win, as I stated above...but I can't believe that you would say that if Heather wins then it has to be a "pity win." :rolleyes: The judges love her look and they say she takes the strongest photos almost every week.

ASUADPi 11-27-2007 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1553227)
I absolutely cannot stand Heather, and I don't think her pics are that great at all. She just looks like a plain girl with long dark hair. If she wins, it's definitely a pity win because of her disability. Which is crap.

Being a sped teacher that comment offends me. What would Jaslene be then? A pity win because she can't talk (which she can't). I honestly at times don't understand what the judges are thinking when they send certain girls home over others. The thing with Heather though, she is a role model to all young women with disabilities.

Think about it, which would you rather prefer a young girl looking up to, Heather to overcame her disability or Bianca who is a rude bitch and is jealous beyond belief. I'd much rather my 3rd graders look up to Heather.

33girl 11-27-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1553442)
Being a sped teacher that comment offends me. What would Jaslene be then? A pity win because she can't talk (which she can't). I honestly at times don't understand what the judges are thinking when they send certain girls home over others. The thing with Heather though, she is a role model to all young women with disabilities.

Jaslene would be "Cover Girl needs to make some inroads in the Latina market." She should not have won and her commercials prove it.

I don't think Heather's pictures are special or pretty at all and I don't believe the judges do either. She keeps winning Cover Girl of the week, for whatever reason, so they're keeping her on. I don't to think she's a "role model" - a role model should be someone who does things WELL, not who just DOES them.

Now if Amanda from season 3 won - I wouldn't have thought at all that it was because of her disability (she was legally blind on her way to being totally blind by age 30) - it was because she took fantastic, kickass pictures. I just simply haven't seen that with Heather.

Fleur de Lis 11-27-2007 12:55 PM

I think it will be down to Saleisha and Chantal. Jenah is fading into the background and Bianca has an awful attitude. I personally love Heather's pictures, but I'm not sure she has the skills to work in the industry.

And I think "cover girl of the week" is done new every week, so the judges wouldn't be keeping her for that because they've already decided. However, they CAN manipulate the editing to make a winner seem more appealing and a cut girl less so.

christiangirl 11-27-2007 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Infamous12 (Post 1552902)
Am I the only one who was shocked that they sent Lisa home over Heather? Heather takes great photos, but what good is that going to do if she can't even communicate? You can't be a silent spokesperson. I honestly feel like Heather is going to get sent home...they're just delaying it bc they don't want it to be because of her condition.

I believe that, too. I think Heather has a long way to go before she can be social enough to handle the modeling world. However, Tyra pointed out that CariDee probably wouldn't be able to handle shooting swimsuits in the winter if she couldn't even handle cold water in a pool, but they still chose her. Tyra said Danielle would never book a job with her accent the way it was, but they still chose her. Based on the past, I don't think they'll hold Heather's definciencies against her as long as they're thinking, "Well, she can always hire a behavior therapist and an acting coach to fix that later."

But Lisa was my favorite and I'm so sad to see her go. I think she really could have won if she had just been more emotionally stable. Lisa had "Melrose" syndrome--she tried so hard to do everything right that she fell apart the second she did something less than great. The more she was criticized the weaker she got and I really believe she could have won if she just calmed herself down. I'm really going to miss Lisa. :(

ASUADPi 11-27-2007 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1553588)

Now if Amanda from season 3 won - I wouldn't have thought at all that it was because of her disability (she was legally blind on her way to being totally blind by age 30) - it was because she took fantastic, kickass pictures. I just simply haven't seen that with Heather.


OMG I LOVED Amanda! I seriously turned it off when she was booted and the final two were YaYa and Eva (who is just a beo-otch to me)

LeslieAGD 11-27-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1553442)
Being a sped teacher that comment offends me. What would Jaslene be then? A pity win because she can't talk (which she can't).

It offends you that someone makes comments about a girl with special needs, so in the next breath you insult a girl because of her Spanish accent?!? As a Latina, your comments offend me.

The judges picked Danielle two years earlier and her southern accent is no harder for some people to distinguish than Jaslene's Spanish accent. Most of the top working models are from Brazil, Australia, and eastern Europe...they ALL have accents. :rolleyes:

ASUADPi 11-28-2007 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LeslieAGD (Post 1553888)
It offends you that someone makes comments about a girl with special needs, so in the next breath you insult a girl because of her Spanish accent?!? As a Latina, your comments offend me.

The judges picked Danielle two years earlier and her southern accent is no harder for some people to distinguish than Jaslene's Spanish accent. Most of the top working models are from Brazil, Australia, and eastern Europe...they ALL have accents. :rolleyes:

You are missing the point. She was basically saying that if Heather won it was because she is special needs and it would be a pity win. Hence me asking, what would Jaslene have been then? I apologize if that offended you.

Also, I could care less about the Spanish accent, I work in a low SES district where 90% of my kids are ESL and they still speak better than Jaslene, accent has nothing to do with it. Jaslene just can't talk (which probably has more to do with the education systems back when she was growing up, ESL education has gotten more forefront in the last 5-10 years than it did 15-20 years ago).

Plus 33girl is right, they probably picked Jaslene to target a certain market. And that shouldn't be the case. This goes for Heather too. If her (Heather) pictures start going downhill and she can't pull off the next commercial, get rid of her. IMPO the judges shouldn't be all about targeting markets, whether it be the special needs market or any racial markets. But that's not how the business is and it's kind of sad.

Yes, I think Heather would be a role model, but other than Bianca, I think the rest of the girls would be good role models.

33girl 11-28-2007 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LeslieAGD (Post 1553888)
Most of the top working models are from Brazil, Australia, and eastern Europe...they ALL have accents. :rolleyes:

Well, yeah. But they aren't doing Cover Girl ads on TV. Part of ANTM has become being a spokesperson for Cover Girl. And if you can't cut that in any way shape or form - be it heavy accent, inabilty to read lines, you move like a zombie, whatever - you should be out.

It would be a more honest show if they would pick either a CG spokeswoman or a runway model, because the two sure as hell are not always the same thing.

christiangirl 11-28-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1554036)
It would be a more honest show if they would pick either a CG spokeswoman or a runway model, because the two sure as hell are not always the same thing.

That's a really good point. They want a girl who can be a runway model and a catalog model and a high fashion model and an actress and a Cover Girl spokesmodel. That's a whole lotta people to be. I understand that Tyra wants 'her' models to be ready for any situation, but who can learn to be that many people in 13 weeks?

Infamous12 11-28-2007 03:40 PM

Top Two: Chantal and Saleisha, hands down. Honestly, both will get gigs galore so neither should really be worried about a 'title'.

My pick....Saleisha - she reminds me of one of my Neos/Specs. I can't help but to cheer her on, since I silently feel like I'm cheering on one of my babies! :)

ASUADPi 11-28-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1554128)
That's a really good point. They want a girl who can be a runway model and a catalog model and a high fashion model and an actress and a Cover Girl spokesmodel. That's a whole lotta people to be. I understand that Tyra wants 'her' models to be ready for any situation, but who can learn to be that many people in 13 weeks?

Which is so true, not all models can actually act and not all catalog can actually do high fashion. It should more be what does the company (whether it be Elite or any other modeling agencies) WANT since they are the ones who are signing the girl. Which makes you wonder, why isn't the modeling company brought in much sooner than when its down to four to six girls who are going on go sees.

LeslieAGD 11-28-2007 10:19 PM

Ugh, Bianca and Jenah are sooooooooo annoying!

BabyPiNK_FL 11-28-2007 10:48 PM

I gotta agree on Jaslene, I could see if she came from elsewhere, but isn't she from Chicago? I HATE listening to her talk. She shouldn't be in commercial ads unless they involve a photo and only a photo. She is a good model though. As for the girl with Asperger's ( I think that's what she has), she's not good. She's just not good.

Remember that girl who had been in the plane crash with two dead parents and had a short term memory loss? Eventually that got old. She started to stink like unrefrigerated fish and after awhile her excuses didn't work because she didn't forget things ALL the time, just when it was convenient to.

This other girl, I feel they keep saying she's weird because of her Asperger's but I don't see it THAT much. But she's not good. She needs to go. All of the disability in the world can't make you qualify for something you don't have the capability to do. If you can't then you can't.

ASUADPi 11-28-2007 11:04 PM

I honestly couldn't care who wins anymore. Heather was my last favorite, they booted the others. I think it's absolutely retarded that they keep a girl who is a cocky and sarcastic bitch over someone who just didn't make it to a few go see's. But then again I've never understood their (the judges) decisions in the first place.

I basically just stop watching if I don't like the girls who are left, it's not like I can't find out who was booted via the internet.

christiangirl 11-29-2007 01:12 AM

^^^Lol, I guess you can stop watching now. I missed the episode, but Wiki caught me up.

Can we do a Survivor-style switcheroo? I wanna kick off Bianca and bring Lisa back to take her place.

Infamous12 11-29-2007 11:56 AM

I guess I'm standing alone on the "I kinda like Bianca island", huh?

*ducks to avoid all the backlash*

;) She entertains me...makes me crack up while watching the show. Sometimes I want to fight her, sometimes I just laugh.

I am relieved they sent Heather home. She's gained massive notoriety from this though. I predict we'll see her being the spokesperson for something charitable soon, some sort of organization for asberger's or something... and being a motivational 'speaker'. *shrugs*

:rolleyes: to Chantal, you talk about Saleisha 'kissing butt' and then what do you do??

I would love for Nigel Barker to kiss my hand. He's so dreamy. Haha

christiangirl 11-29-2007 12:15 PM

I think Bianca brings some comic relief in that I sometimes have to laugh to keep the rage at bay. The girl acts like she's God's gift to modeling. I would never have expected her to say she didn't deserve to be sent home for not completing the challenge and still don't understand was she wasn't. :confused: That wasn't tolerated for anyone else in any of the 7 cycles that I have watched. She is NOT the exception to the rule and needs an attitude ajustment. Then, maybe just maybe, I'd like her.

And I think Heather would make a wonderful spokesperson...if she could speak in front of people. I hope she gets that together. She definitely has the potential to do something powerful.

33girl 11-29-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Infamous12 (Post 1554618)
I guess I'm standing alone on the "I kinda like Bianca island", huh?

*ducks to avoid all the backlash*

;) She entertains me...makes me crack up while watching the show. Sometimes I want to fight her, sometimes I just laugh.

I am relieved they sent Heather home. She's gained massive notoriety from this though. I predict we'll see her being the spokesperson for something charitable soon, some sort of organization for asberger's or something... and being a motivational 'speaker'. *shrugs*

:rolleyes: to Chantal, you talk about Saleisha 'kissing butt' and then what do you do??

I would love for Nigel Barker to kiss my hand. He's so dreamy. Haha

I agree w/ this whole post...I like Bianca too, I think she has the strongest look.

and yes I pumped my hand in the air and yelled "yes!!' (and scared the cat) when Heather got the boot. LOL. I agree that she'll probably get some sort of spokesperson position related to her Asperger's.

ETA they have links at the bottom of her Wikipedia page to the previous seasons' winners and first runner ups. I don't know why I find it amusing that Melrose's full name is Melrose Bickerstaff. :p

christiangirl 11-29-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1554643)
I don't know why I find it amusing that Melrose's full name is Melrose Bickerstaff. :p

You should have seen all the things Wiki users kept changing her last name to while the season was on. Haters. :rolleyes:*pours a glass of wine on the carpet for Melissa Rose Bickerstaff*

ETA: Am I the only one who wonders what made Rodney Jerkins (on Wiki) insist Tyra really can sing? :confused:

whiteandblack 11-29-2007 08:56 PM

although both heather and jenah's pictures were great, heather didn't stand a chance to win. heather needs a LOT of work. like J said she needs a TopModel ass-whuppin', starting with that walk....

Unregistered- 12-03-2007 04:59 PM

Heather was my last favorite in the competition. Still, I'm kind of thankful they gave her the boot because it just got too painful to watch. :(

I still don't like Saleisha. I blame it on her damn hair. See, when we were kids, a lot of parents decided that it was cool for their kids to have hair like that. Us kids, however, hated it. It really did look like they took a china bowl, put it on our heads, and then cut whatever hair wasn't being covered by the china bowl. :rolleyes:

I don't know if it's in honor of their time in China, but I don't know what Tyra was smoking when she thought up the idea for Saleisha's makeover. It just doesn't work. :mad:

LeslieAGD 12-06-2007 09:54 AM

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD! :D


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