In my humble opinion, there aren't any NPHC traditions and practices that annoy me. I think things are fine the way they are, and would be unneccessary to change anything. :)

Shut up! :D

We all know I am a neo, so I have soooo much to learn, but of what has been said this is what I identify with most.

One of my friends (of course soror, but we are really tight) visited a chapter meeting and we felt like:confused: at the way the National Hymn. We were singing it (according to what current protocol says) the right way and there way we neos were going to say ANYTHING (b/c we didn't want to come off af correcting them), but we were surely confused.

I only know one stroll and I. AM. DONE. Some of the others are tooo long, only go with one song, and I would have to be on dancing with the stars to learn some of them.

Grrrrrr! Especially at #2!

Where has the Greek spirit gone? It bothers me that some members of the D9 take the "friendly competition" too far to the point of intended harm.

My thoughts exactly. Cut the bulljive and all the extraneous nonsense and just get down to the steppin'.

I saw this one step performance with the Central State University Deltas (Delta Kappa chapter) where the steppers were dressed like stewardesses--the whole Delta Airlines bit, and this one cat who was supposed to be the captain was "flying the plane" during their performance, and he was ALL into it, simulating flying through turbulence, radioing the tower, filling out the flight log, and errethang. I thought he was going to catch the symptoms of food poisoning ala Captain Oveur from Airplane and pass out and take the plane into a deep dive. Myself and my frat brothers were cracking up at his piloting skills. But I digress...

Bottom line: cut all the silly gimmicks such as pointless skits and smoke and mirrors and all that nonsence and just step like everybody else.

It is indeed a new day in greekdom....

How would you know? Serious question.

15+ years of exposure. 'Nuff said.

And I love you, too, because you don't fit the bill. (Pun intended. LOL)

Exposure, as in a GDI watching Greeks for 15+ years? Or, exposure, as in being Greek for 15+ years? I ask, because experience trumps exposure on any given day.

Actually, now that I think about it, both!

(I had the best of both worlds) :D

Ok....

I know it's a new day in the NPHC. But the funny thing is that I have family members who crossed in the 50s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. And they all said that when they were new to their organizations that older Greeks were complaining about it being a new day (paraphrased). So, my guess is that it's always a new day. As the world evolves, so will the NPHC organizations.

Exactly. For example, sororities stepping was a new day for me. So the current state of step shows (dancing) is nothing but a throwback. That too shall change again.

Well in one aspect, you are right about it being a new day in greekdom--you are a Kappa. tm:k

*Don Adams voice* AND LOVING IT!!!

Hi, ladygreek. :D

I agree. It's a huge deal in Minnesota and it bothers me when I'm in the middle of it.

Don't act like you don't need a good "spankin" every now and then...go to your room right now...LOL!:D

*smooches*

Very honestly, Del, sometime it has to be done. Gentle correction does not always work and then you have to pull rank and dictate. Of course that is only valid when a truly knowledgable person is doing it, so I do hear you.

This had me rolling. Years ago Delta instituted a policy that a chapter could not assess fees or fines, so this could not happen now. But I remember that before the policy was enacted we had an SAA that did the same thing. Many of us, younger sorors at the time, started going late to meetings just to perturb her. :D

That's okay since I gotta TV in my room!!:p

That is what made it funny. She was so :mad: about it and we were like :rolleyes:, okay, whatever. But, you can't say that she did not do her job! ;)

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! Screaming at the top of my lungs. I hate exercise struts, strolls, etc. That's what I call them.

Quick detour...As a witness to this particular step performance, I'm not sure it backs up the '19 minute skit 1 minute step' statement. The show was FULL of stepping, the Delta Airlines bit was their theme, and they STEPPED up down all-around and through that theme. The only time they were NOT stepping was when they were entering the stage (dropping their luggage off before 'boarding') and when they party walked (strolled, hopped, call it what you will, lol.) off the stage at the end.

Honestly, it was the epitome of a 1st class STEP show.

Which is probably why they won 1st place.

Back to the main road - I concur on the midnight probates in 2 degree cold.

As well as orgs/chapters claiming to 'run the yard' when ALLLLLLLLLL they do is throw parties. I mean, those are some live parties...but still, a party does not a strong organization make! Silly me and my old-fashioned thinking to think 'running the yard' was to be based on leadership & service to the community. :rolleyes:

You are correct on all counts, my mind took a detour at the thought of that one cat in the Delta step performance that I just had to get off my chest, cause it was seriously hilarious--and very much extra. The stepping was indeed on point, though that doesn't change my overall opinion of there really shouldn't be a need for a skit of ANY sort, if the stepping is any good. It's almost as if the skits are trying to compensate for a weak step performance, though that is definately not always the case, that begs the question: WHY THE NEED FOR A SKIT?

Daggonit, if you're gonna step, step. If you're gonna put on a SNL skit, change the venue from a step show to a skit show or something like that.

That's just the old school college man in me talking. ;)

I do agree with this 100% ;)

LMAO...literally

I agree with everything being said. I'm especially perturbed when there are chapters of an org that actually teach their chapter members that they are the truest member of the org, and all other chapters are inferior. (BTW, these chapters aren't Alpha chapter or even single-letter that I'm referring to. The nerve!) I've even heard that there's a chapter that teaches that other members outside of their chapter are cousins. :eek:

I wish sorority women would be more selective about the songs they stroll to and would kill the stripper moves. *SMH*

I'm not sure if this qualifies, but I'm sick of members that spend their good money on XYZ paraphernalia that includes subtle or directly unapologetic references to other D9 orgs. For...what? Wearing anyone else's colors and/or letters anywhere on your XYZ 'nalia makes you look insecure and brings down the image of your organization.

I would put a period behind the bolded...

Would I look insecure, if I put ^^^ on a shirt? Preach!

Fa sheezy, breezy!

Is you tryinst tells me that Delta Nu AIN'T the bizness in Delta?? Is you sayin theys OTHER chapters in DST? Well, I ain't gotta believe you cuz my chapter founders told me we ain't have to listen to anyone who ain't come through Delta Nu Sorority Inc.!! :p

The movie Legally Blonde makes this post 10X funnier.:D

4-5 hour step shows. Well, not so much annoying as exhausting. :)

Get that said, Prophyte! LOL:D

Neos that know it ALL, and that know way more than their prophytes...THAT is what annoys me

People who are more concerned with being GREEK than with being a member of XYZ, that annoys me, too. I'm all for greek love, but your own org should be your PRIORITY

Wow alot of people have said things that hit close to home :eek: But I'll post some regardless :cool:

1. Letter Wearers, Letter Wearers, Letter Wearers! :mad:-DO NOT be showing up at the event with the most expensive para on, knowing D*mn well you had ish to do with the planning and execution of the event! Having the most para does not make you member of the year, so don't even :rolleyes:

2. Not respecting those that came before you-Recognize what people had to sacrifice to pledge you and educate you about the org, do not come into the chapter/org thinknig well they need me so I'll act anyway I want with em, sorry it ain't going to cut it.

3. 'False' Prophytes-Those who act all hardcore when they're pledging you, want you to do the most insane stuff...then you find out how they were while pledging, the complete opposite of what they're expecting :rolleyes:

4. Cliques in chapters/regions-It happens in every org, non-greek and greek, but folks should be able to recognize that the members (for the most part) pledged for the same reason(s), do not be using your friendships within the chapter/region/org to get at another member...when meetings start sounding like a "Survivor" Tribal Council debriefing, then you got problems!

5. Sticking to only a certain type of people-Please, it looks real bad, if you only hang out with a certain sorority/fraternity and only befriend potential interests, communicate with all Greek and Non-Greek orgs on campus, show them you're easy to work with.

6. Choose your business time accordingly-I've been a member of a Registered Student Org longer than I have my fraternity, one recurring practice is folks show up to an RSO's meeting and make it all about XYZ, do not turn it into a mini-informational (not everyone wants to hear it); also do not just show up just to recruit folks and we never see them again until they have become members of your org only to continue the cycle.

7. Folks who have no life outside of Greek Life!-Don't make the org your life! Contribute to it and don't just take, you can contribute by joining other civil/social orgs! If I call you up just to see what's up, don't talk Greek business unless I need to know it! If you cannot carry a conversation about something not pertinent to Greek Life, clearly you must work on your social skills ;)

8. Give respect where respect is due-I learned this in a leadership workshop, a simple pat on the back and 'good job' to a contributing member will keep him/her going even if they are burned out! Do not push him/her to the side because they may not know how to say 'no', this will ultimately push them away and the results will show who has actually been doing the work!

9. Be Social, but don't make that the only thing your org is about-You can throw as many parties as you want and think 'Hey everyone knows us we're good' but if you haven't done any service or non-social events, then you've done nothing except what most college kids do...piggybacking, I cannot stand when you can't get a hold of folks to attend a decently timed event...but tell em you have party and people go the extra mile to be there :mad:

man, i don't wish all that.

:party:

Of course you don't, you don't stroll. :p

Folks who don't live up to their assigned positions and leave it to the rest to pick up the slack, OY