Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1442802)

Negro, PLEASE.

You have been to my campus and seen my chapter -- Circle K? Don't get it twisted, dude. As long as you've been a member you still haven't seen it ALL.

Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1442881)

Shid, remember the quote "don't argue with a fool..." This is Rain Man we are talking about.

Originally Posted by Blessed2bDST (Post 1442773)

Actually, not the case at all sorors, but too complicated to explain the full history here.

Originally Posted by LXA SE285 (Post 1443216)

The Kappa Alpha Theta chapter at Dartmouth surrendered its charter and became a local, Epsilon Kappa Theta, in the early ’90s. They decided to split from the national organization because they felt its values didn't reflect theirs.

Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 1441797)

At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K. (Post 1443708)

Would you all count Harvard as a splinter situation???

I know the AD Club, Fly Club, Phoenix Club, etc. all used to be fraternities before but when all the Greeks were kicked off, started their own organizations. At least, this is what I've heard from my dad who was Phoenix Club, so I have no clue if this is correct. Any experts know??? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Originally Posted by TheFratBoyNews (Post 1444287)

I know that Delta Tau Delta at Dartmouth broke off to become Bones Gate in 1960 because nationals wouldn't allow minority members. Things certainly were different then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmou...ons#Bones_Gate

Originally Posted by SkiingSister (Post 1441410)

In the 70's I think it was, the members of Phi Kappa Tau chapter at California State University at Chico got fed up with their national, got rid of them and founded their own fraternity, Tau Gamma Theta.

Phi Kappa Tau must have recolonized and they are on campus.

Tau Gamma Theta has a house but are not recognized by IFC. I don't even think that have badges. They are known for their heavy drinking and hazing.

Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 1441797)

At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.

Originally Posted by 10thAndChestnut (Post 1446834)

In the spring of 1968, the national office of Phi Kappa Tau had a rule on the books. If a member of any chapter was found or known to be smoking marijuana, he was to be expelled. At Chico State, it was revealed that a member of the Phi Kappa Tau chapter did, in fact, smoke marijuana. It was policy that he be expelled. The overwhelming majority of the membership did not agree that his "crime" warranted expulsion- he was a functioning member of the group and he used marijuana on his own time and never while representing the organization. The rule was still a rule.

Charles Preusser, president of the Phi Taus, and forty-four other members of the organization, decided that they would not allow a fraternity headquarters thousands of miles away to dictate what they did in their personal lives. The broke off and formed the Tau Gamma Theta Fraternity, founding it on the ideals of Christian Values, Innate Worth of the individual, Democratic process, and tolerance.

Tau Gamma Theta became one of the most progressive fraternities in Chico, and rapidly grew in size. It became the first fraternity in Chico to allow a black man to pledge. It won "Pioneer Days" greek competitions repeatedly.

Now here's someone telling you that Tau Gamma Theta is a splinter group without badges that is known for hazing and heavy drinking. And that it's not recognized by the IFC. The IFC at Chico State has decided that no alcohol can be consumed in a fraternity house. I'm 22 years old and I live in a fraternity house. And if I want to drink a beer while I watch the final four, you better believe that no one's going to tell me that I can't do that in my own house.
Heavy drinking? Guilty. This is Chico, for christ's sake. We know how to have a good time. And unlike the IFC fraternities that hide their parties and work out loopholes in the system to sneak a keg into their functions, we're drinking right out in the open and celebrating our right to do so. This isn't the 1920's.
Hazing? Absolutely not. Just because we know how to drink and have fun doesn't mean we're going to force our behavior on anyone else. I am deeply offended by such a libelous and unfounded accusation.
The fact of the matter is, we broke away from our national chapter to take our activities into our own hands. No one sets rules for the members of Tau Gamma Theta except for the members of Tau Gamma Theta, and we've been doing it for almost forty years. If that's what you'd call a splinter group, then so be it. There were another 39 men who decided that they wouldn't be governed from thousands of miles away when they signed their own constitution. If these founders of this country were a splinter group, then I'm proud to be a member of one as well.

Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 1441754)

Were it not for splinter groups in Greekdom, some of the largest groups wouldn't exist.

For example:
Sigma Chi from DKE
Founder of Sig Ep was a Chi Phi
DST from AKA

Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 1448624)

Excellent point. And some 152 (Sigma Chi), 106 (Sigma Phi Epsilon) or 94 (Delta Sigma Theta) years later, all six organizations are doing just fine.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1442384)

I know of 2 Alpha Phi Omega splinter groups:

Phi Rho Eta Fraternity (former members of Zeta Nu chapter - Southern Illinois University at Carbondale)

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1442384)

Theta Beta Phi Fraternity--no longer in existence (former members of Rho Omicron petitioning group - U. of Md. Eastern Shore; the longest lasting petitioning group--5 years until the group got tired of jumping through hoops in getting rechartered and and voted to disaffiliate; at the same time, the National Board voted to deem the group inactive; albeit independent of what the PG was doing and vice versa. So in a sense it was a mutual separation.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1442384)

Theta Xi chapter (at a now-closed school in New Jersey) was merging with another school. The chapter at the closed school was all-male; the school it was merging with had a co-ed chapter. The all-male group did not want to merge with or lose it's all-male status, so it disaffiliated with APO and became a local social fraternity until it was later picked up as a chapter of.....THETA XI Fraternity.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1442384)

Side note: I have a feeling with the new requirement that all chapters must be co-ed, there will be more splinter groups forming in Alpha Phi Omega very soon.

Originally Posted by seraphimsprite (Post 1448201)

Darmouth has quite a few groups that have splintered off from NPC or NIC groups according to this page:
1847 Alpha Delta Phi (Dartmouth Chapter). Fraternity, National. Formed by members of Gamma Sigma Society, now defunct. Became Alpha Delta in 1969. Fraternity, Local.
1853 Delta Kappa Epsilon (Pi Chapter). Fraternity, National. Became Storrs House in 1970. Now defunct.
1857 Phi Zeta Mu. Fraternity, Local. Became Eta Eta Chapter of Sigma Chi National Fraternity in 1893. Became The Tabard House in 1960. Coed House, Local.
1884 Phi Delta Theta. Fraternity, National. Became Phi Delta Alpha in 1960. Fraternity, Local. Derecognized "indefinitely" by the College in March 2000 and reapplied for recognition in Fall 2002. This application was approved in May 2004.
1898 Alpha Omega, a local society. Became the Chi Chapter of Chi Phi in 1902. Became Heorot in 1968. Rejoined Chi Phi in 1981. Became Chi Heorot in 1987. Fraternity, Local.
1901 Delta Tau Delta (Gamma Gamma Chapter). Became Bones Gate in 1960. Fraternity, Local.
1901 Phi Gamma Delta (Delta Upsilon Chapter). Fraternity, National. Became Phoenix in 1965. Dissolved in 1971.
1905 Phi Sigma Kappa (Tau Chapter). Became Phi Tau in 1956. Coed House, Local.
1905 Kappa Sigma (Gamma Epsilon Chapter). Formed by a local organization, Beta Gamma, which was organized for the express purpose of becoming a chapter of Kappa Sigma. Became Kappa Sigma Gamma in 1981. Litigation by the Kappa Sigma Fraternity forced them to change to Chi Gamma Epsilon in 1987. Fraternity, Local.
1908 Gamma Delta Epsilon. Local society disbanded in 1912. Revived in 1921. Became Kappa Chapter of Phi Kappa Sigma in 1928. Merged with Phi Nu Chapter of Alpha Chi Rho in 1935 to become Gamma Delta Chi. Fraternity, Local.
1919 Alpha Chi Rho (Phi Nu Chapter). National. Merged with Phi Kappa Sigma in 1935 to become Gamma Delta Chi, but was reborn in 1956 as Phi Nu Chapter of Alpha Chi Rho. Became Alpha Chi Alpha in 1963. Fraternity, Local.
1920 Epsilon Kappa Phi. Became Dartmouth Chapter of Delta Upsilon in 1926. Became Foley House in 1966. Dissolved in 1981.
1921 Theta Chi Fraternity (Alpha Theta Chapter). Broke with Theta Chi over a racial clause in the National constitution and became Alpha Theta in 1953. Coed Fraternity, Local.
1950 Tau Epsilon Phi. Fraternity, National. Became Harold Parmington Foundation in 1969. Changed name to Delta Psi Delta in 1981. Coed, Local. Dissolved in 1991.
1976 Sigma Kappa. Sorority, National. Became Sigma Delta in 1988. Sorority, Local.
1980 Alpha Chi Omega (Zeta Mu Chapter). Sorority, National. Became Xi Kappa Chi in 1990. Sorority, Local. Considered affiliation with Phi Mu National Sorority in 1993. Dissolved by Dartmouth Panhellenic Council in 1993.
1981 Kappa Alpha Theta. Sorority, National. Became Epsilon Kappa Theta in May 1992. Sorority, Local.
1984 Delta Phi Epsilon. Sorority, National. Became Pi Sigma Psi and dissolved soon after in 1990.
1984 Alpha Beta. Became a chapter of Delta Gamma in 1986. Rescinded national charter in 1997 and became Zeta Beta Chi. Sorority, Local. Announced plans to dissolve in December 1998.

Wow, and I totally didn't expect that list to be nearly that long when I started. Apparently Dartmouth students are not terribly fond of national organizations?

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1460331)

Yup. I think this group has had chapters Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta, but last I saw, Beta and Delta were inactive and Gamma was bringing back Alpha.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1460458)

FWIW, Phi Rho Eta has been highly respected on the campuses they have been on, one chapter having a member who served as president of the local chapter's NPHC.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1460458)

Hence, this was perhaps the precedent for Alpha Phi Omega having splinter groups. Though I was told by another brother that Alpha Phi Omega was indirectly responsible for Iota Phi Theta to come into existence, though personally I find that rather far-fetched, it's entirely possible.

Originally Posted by rufio (Post 1460715)

i've heard that Delta Tau Delta was a split from DU, can anyone back that up? its just a conspiracy theory i've heard before, but it would explain why 3 of their 4 founding principles are word for word exactly the same as ours. i remember reading somewhere that a DU in some way helped the Delts start, but i cant seem to find that anymore.

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1460574)

Good for them. But SIU-Carbondale was not an HBCU, so the group was sort of odd by demographics anyway.

Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1460760)

Right, and is it possible that the person may have also been a member of an NPHC org.?

Originally Posted by rufio (Post 1461869)

oops, my bad, i meant delta chi...so i hear that DELTA CHI was split off from DU and 3 of their 4 principles are the same as DU's. sorry for the mix up. silly me trying to get information and i cant even correctly ask for what i want.

Originally Posted by KyleMcGuire1983 (Post 1449193)

Sigma Chi's Cross was even designed by a DKE (who didn't leave) from what I hear.....

Originally Posted by rufio (Post 1461869)

oops, my bad, i meant delta chi...so i hear that DELTA CHI was split off from DU and 3 of their 4 principles are the same as DU's. sorry for the mix up. silly me trying to get information and i cant even correctly ask for what i want.