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Unregistered- 05-08-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by angelic1 (Post 1442966)
If she will serve her term... from the article I doubt it. They are appealing of course and if she is like Michelle Rodriguez she may only serve four hours.

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Originally Posted by Bella_Petit (Post 1443397)
I saw an online petition on her myspace page asking for her fans to sign the petition so that the governor of CA can pardon her. :rolleyes:

My buddy Sean was the prosecuting attorney at Michelle Rodriguez's trial. He received hate mail from her fans for weeks.

Besides that disappointing sex tape, Paris has made no contributions to society whatsoever and I really hope that Ah-nold takes that into consideration and laughs in her face when her lawyers ask for that pardon.

It was interesting to see celebrity reaction on Entertainment Tonight last night. Jason Priestley, who himself got busted on a DUI (DUIs?), said he didn't even JAYWALK because he didn't want to be in violation of ANYTHING.

I don't feel sorry for her. In fact, I can't wait to see what other unfortunate stuff will happen to her!

AXO Alum 05-08-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1441875)
I don't go to jail much...

yeah... its in the siggy :D

I hope that Paris gets treated just like every other "innocent" inmate in lock-up. Having lost a 2 yo cousin to a female drunk driver (2nd DUI conviction - even though this was in 1978, she got a whole 30 day PROBATION). I think she should have had to get "I am a MURDERER" tattooed on her forehead! :mad:

sdsuchelle 05-09-2007 06:36 AM

I hope that stupid spoiled bitch spends all 45 days in jail and that it sucks.

She has made ZERO contribution to society, acts like she's somehow above the law, and why couldn't she hire a driver?! It's not like she's broke!

UGH SHE JUST MAKES ME SO MAD, seriously. Normally I don't care about celebrities but if I saw her in person, I would totally punch her out.

AlphaFrog 05-09-2007 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1443398)
I think people don't differentiate between degrees of driving while intoxicated.

They think of the worse things that have happened and suddenly anyone at the limit is a murderer. Regardless of how they are driving.

Thats not rational. Thats an emotive argument and can't be argued against.

This is not true when it comes to legality, at least in IL where I'm familiar with the DUI laws (probably the same other places as well). IL recognizes 4 levels of DUIs, Level I - Low Risk, Level II - Moderate Risk, Level II - Significant risk, and Level III - High Risk (a 2nd DUI automatically places you in this category, no questions asked). Your "rehab" is determined by your level of risk. Your level is determined by a licensed DUI counselor. There are two Level II categories to give the counselors some leeway/options. There's got to be a similar system in California.

Oh, and NEVER if you are pulled over refuse the breathalyzer test. The most fancy-pants lawyer will NOT get you around a DIU because there was no BAC recorded.

macallan25 05-09-2007 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1443726)
This is not true when it comes to legality, at least in IL where I'm familiar with the DUI laws (probably the same other places as well). IL recognizes 4 levels of DUIs, Level I - Low Risk, Level II - Moderate Risk, Level II - Significant risk, and Level III - High Risk (a 2nd DUI automatically places you in this category, no questions asked). Your "rehab" is determined by your level of risk. Your level is determined by a licensed DUI counselor. There are two Level II categories to give the counselors some leeway/options. There's got to be a similar system in California.

Oh, and NEVER if you are pulled over refuse the breathalyzer test. The most fancy-pants lawyer will NOT get you around a DIU because there was no BAC recorded.

Actually this depends, or so I've been told by my attorney. Maybe Texas is different than Illinois.

I know a pretty good amount of people who have refused breathalizers and just opted to go to jail. Sure, they lost their license for around 90 days (I think that is the penalty for refusing one)...but they didn't get DWIs.

.....and if you are well connected and have a good attorney....you can get out of a DUI/DWI. Don't be silly.

jwright25 05-09-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1443751)
I know a pretty good amount of people who have refused breathalizers and just opted to go to jail. Sure, they lost their license for around 90 days (I think that is the penalty for refusing one)...but they didn't get DWIs.

Interesting. I also have heard that you should refuse the breathalizer and instead opt for a blood screening. By the time you get to the hospital and get the blood drawn, more of the alcohol will have metabolized and your BAC will be lower. I don't know anyone who has done that though....

AlphaFrog 05-09-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jwright25 (Post 1443823)
Interesting. I also have heard that you should refuse the breathalizer and instead opt for a blood screening. By the time you get to the hospital and get the blood drawn, more of the alcohol will have metabolized and your BAC will be lower. I don't know anyone who has done that though....

That sounds like a "Let me see your radar gun" type move, and something that would just piss most police off.

And apparently, you can't get out of all DUIs, or Paris wouldn't be heading up the river.

Kevin 05-09-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1443751)
Actually this depends, or so I've been told by my attorney. Maybe Texas is different than Illinois.

I know a pretty good amount of people who have refused breathalizers and just opted to go to jail. Sure, they lost their license for around 90 days (I think that is the penalty for refusing one)...but they didn't get DWIs.

.....and if you are well connected and have a good attorney....you can get out of a DUI/DWI. Don't be silly.

It's different all over. A breathalizer refusal in Oklahoma will result in a one-year automatic suspension of your driver's license.

Some departments are now equipping these sensors which attack to the top of the cop's little clipboard thing which can get a measure your BAC from a pretty good distance. The cop just leans in a little when he's asking for your information and he's got your BAC.

They don't need your consent for that -- it's not a search because you have no expectation of privacy as to your breath. Neat, eh?

Sister Havana 05-09-2007 12:55 PM

Did you see on the petition one of the reasons to pardon her is that she brings "beauty and excitement to otherwise mundane lives?" Gag.

There are some other petitions out there too - to give her a life sentence. :D

Paris needs to go away. Really. Does she even have one redeeming quality?

AlexMack 05-09-2007 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Havana (Post 1443930)
Paris needs to go away. Really. Does she even have one redeeming quality?

I seriously just sat and thought about that for like a minute straight. I cannot come up with anything. Now that's sad.

Kevlar281 05-09-2007 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1443751)
Actually this depends, or so I've been told by my attorney. Maybe Texas is different than Illinois.

I know a pretty good amount of people who have refused breathalizers and just opted to go to jail. Sure, they lost their license for around 90 days (I think that is the penalty for refusing one)...but they didn't get DWIs.

.....and if you are well connected and have a good attorney....you can get out of a DUI/DWI. Don't be silly.

My friend refused to take the breathalyzer and all things considered it worked out pretty well for him.

His whole defense was based on the videotape that was recorded by the police officers dash cam. He wasn’t stumbling or slurring his words; from all accounts any juror would consider him to appear sober. When questioned by the prosecutor why he refused the breathalyzer he basically stated that he didn’t feel like he was drunk and the fact that he had been placed under arrest made him lose trust in the police.

The lawyer who represented him almost exclusively defends DUI/DWI defendants and his advice was that under no circumstances submit to any type of sobriety test. It’s easier to explain refusal then a positive test. Suck it up, go to jail and call a lawyer. The Fifth Amendment is your right, use it.

Kevin 05-09-2007 02:08 PM

Kev, that's not good advice in all 50 states. Like I said, a refusal in Oklahoma earns you a 1 year suspended license.

Also, in Texas, don't be too surprised if the police haven't already checked your BAC using other technology available to them before asking you to submit.

sunnyhibiscus 05-09-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sdsuchelle (Post 1443716)
I hope that stupid spoiled bitch spends all 45 days in jail and that it sucks.

She has made ZERO contribution to society, acts like she's somehow above the law, and why couldn't she hire a driver?! It's not like she's broke!

UGH SHE JUST MAKES ME SO MAD, seriously. Normally I don't care about celebrities but if I saw her in person, I would totally punch her out.

And young girls look up to her as a role model. What has this world come to?

And she thinks that Arnie would help her not to go to jail?

Drolefille 05-09-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1443978)
Kev, that's not good advice in all 50 states. Like I said, a refusal in Oklahoma earns you a 1 year suspended license.

Also, in Texas, don't be too surprised if the police haven't already checked your BAC using other technology available to them before asking you to submit.

I'm curious, how do they sneak a blood, breath or urine sample? I've never heard of this.

AlphaFrog 05-09-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1443832)
It's different all over. A breathalizer refusal in Oklahoma will result in a one-year automatic suspension of your driver's license.

Some departments are now equipping these sensors which attack to the top of the cop's little clipboard thing which can get a measure your BAC from a pretty good distance. The cop just leans in a little when he's asking for your information and he's got your BAC.

They don't need your consent for that -- it's not a search because you have no expectation of privacy as to your breath. Neat, eh?

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1443994)
I'm curious, how do they sneak a blood, breath or urine sample? I've never heard of this.

See above.

Drolefille 05-09-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1444040)
See above.

Ah, missed that. Thanks

susan314 05-09-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1443978)
Kev, that's not good advice in all 50 states. Like I said, a refusal in Oklahoma earns you a 1 year suspended license.

It would be horrible advice in Ohio. The penalty is stiffer for refusing to take the test, than it is for taking it and testing over the limit (for a first offense).

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For a first-time offender who fails the test, the administrative license suspension is 90 days and a court may grant limited driving privileges after 15 days. However, if you refuse to take the test, the driver's license suspension is for one year and the court must wait 30 days to grant limited driving privileges. Also, some courts have taken the position of not granting privileges at all if the defendant refuses to take the test.

Most importantly under the new law, if you refuse the test, the six-year look-back period for prior DUI offenses becomes a 20-year look-back period. Therefore, it is possible that as a result of the refusal, the OVI may be charged as a felony if you had previous OVI charges in the extended 20-year look-back period.
http://oldsr.sanduskyregister.com/si...ml?question=13

Kevin 05-09-2007 05:47 PM

Ok.. I was thinking of the flashlight/BAC detector. I have no idea where I got the clipboard idea from.

Here's an article:

http://www.defensehelp.com/show_cont...&category_ID=1


Unfortunately, I don't know how much I can trust an article which uses the word "Irregardless."

GeekyPenguin 05-09-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jwright25 (Post 1443823)
Interesting. I also have heard that you should refuse the breathalizer and instead opt for a blood screening. By the time you get to the hospital and get the blood drawn, more of the alcohol will have metabolized and your BAC will be lower. I don't know anyone who has done that though....

Not necessarily the best strategy - your BAC could also go up since you have had a chance to get more alcohol into your system depending on when you stopped drinking before you got behind the wheel.

Kevin 05-09-2007 08:55 PM

The best strategy is to not drink and drive.

I thought I'd just run up my post count by stating the obvious.

AlphaFrog 05-10-2007 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1444275)
The best strategy is to not drink and drive.

I thought I'd just run up my post count by stating the obvious.

But...to quote one of the guys who went through my mom's office for treatment:

"What's the fun in drinking if you're not going to play 'which headlights are the real ones'?":rolleyes:

KSigkid 05-10-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1444275)
The best strategy is to not drink and drive.

I thought I'd just run up my post count by stating the obvious.

Exactly - as someone who was just hit and seriously injured by a drunk driver in the last 10 days, I'm amazed people don't think before they get into a car and drive.

Drolefille 05-10-2007 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1444592)
Exactly - as someone who was just hit and seriously injured by a drunk driver in the last 10 days, I'm amazed people don't think before they get into a car and drive.

Don't know if you mentioned that before, but if you did I missed it. I'm glad you're ok.

It's not that hard to find someone who's not going to drink to drive for you. A lot of bars give DDs free soda or even food! Put the taxi company's phone number on your cell phone, give your keys away, anything that makes you less likely to drink and drive.

Kevin 05-10-2007 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1444592)
Exactly - as someone who was just hit and seriously injured by a drunk driver in the last 10 days, I'm amazed people don't think before they get into a car and drive.

Glad you're still with us. As much as I get pissed at our legislators/local officials for turning DUIs into a cottage industry for their campaign contributors (by sending you specifically to their buddy's private weekend lockup, drug/alcohol screening/assessment/driving class/community service...) , the fact is that it is a serious crime.

99 times out of 100 you don't hurt anyone.. but that 100th time could involve your death or someone else's death. All things considered, why do it?

KSigkid 05-10-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1444677)
99 times out of 100 you don't hurt anyone.. but that 100th time could involve your death or someone else's death. All things considered, why do it?

Exactly - and if we weren't in such a good car, I can't imagine what would have happened. The vehicle saved our lives, and honestly, the guy who hit us is lucky he's not staring at vehicular homicide.

People forget that when you make a decision like that, you affect a whole lot of other people besides yourself. I'm not going to get on a soapbox, because I'm too close to the situation and probably could not speak intelligently on it at this point.

I will say, though, that it puts the stress of finals into a different light.

jon1856 05-17-2007 10:21 PM

One just had to know that the Op-Ed cartoons would run with this story:
http://cagle.com/news/ParisInPrison/

OneBadZeta02 05-18-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrel10 (Post 1441315)
I laughed when I read that article. I read like 3 different versions of it, and one of them said that Paris looked "shocked" when the sentence was read. Is she really that stupid to think that she wouldn't get jailtime? :rolleyes:


Yes, she's that stupid and she deserves everyday she received in jail. The sad thing is, once she gets out she'll probably repeat the same dumb azz behavior!

DaemonSeid 05-18-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OneBadZeta02 (Post 1450395)
Yes, she's that stupid and she deserves everyday she received in jail. The sad thing is, once she gets out she'll probably repeat the same dumb azz behavior!

dayum shame she got a reduced sentence and not being tucked in with the general population....well hey....if Martha Stewart can do it......


(side note: anybody remember whne they was about to lock her away, Martha compared her surviving 5 months to Mandela's jail time...? That was just the funniest thing... :o )

OneTimeSBX 05-18-2007 04:11 PM

i know it says she is going to be in a separate section, but it is also the same section they put police officers, etc... even if she isnt really a celeb, lord knows what would happen to her in the regular part. she still has to abide by the regular rules, she is just in a separate place. i just hope she'll put a few pounds on while shes in there!

oh, and i wonder if she can get that girl to double for her that took her place on "the simple life" that time lol

DaemonSeid 05-18-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1450407)
i know it says she is going to be in a separate section, but it is also the same section they put police officers, etc... even if she isnt really a celeb, lord knows what would happen to her in the regular part. she still has to abide by the regular rules, she is just in a separate place. i just hope she'll put a few pounds on while shes in there!

oh, and i wonder if she can get that girl to double for her that took her place on "the simple life" that time lol



LOL...please check this qoute....makes sense hmm?

News in Brief
Fri May 18, 1:15 PM ET, E! Online
Party Foul: Zeta Graff has issued a statement questioning Paris Hilton's ability to maintain her busy social schedule when she is supposedly too emotionally fragile to deal with the $10 million slander suit against her. "If Ms. Hilton was nightclubbing on Saturday night, she should not have been representing to the court on Monday morning that she was unable to participate in the trial," Graff said.

http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/en...951932100.html

OneTimeSBX 05-18-2007 04:16 PM

lmao! yeah its kinda hard to play the innocent roll after a festive night of lobster, caviar and grey goose lol!

when i get a traffic ticket, i am in the bed for days beforehand just to make sure i have the right mindset before court lol!

Unregistered- 05-18-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1450410)
when i get a traffic ticket, i am in the bed for days beforehand just to make sure i have the right mindset before court lol!

In Hawai'i, each driver must have their no-fault insurance card while operating the vehicle.

I got pulled over once and had an expired card. It had only been two days, but I just forgot to replace it with the new one. The cop said that all I had to do was show up to court on the date listed on the ticket and bring in my new no-fault insurance card to show to the judge that I was covered.

Even though I knew that my ticket was going to be thrown out (which eventually happened), just getting ready for court, waiting for your name to be called, and having to stand before a judge is pretty intimidating.

ZTABullwinkle 05-18-2007 05:18 PM

In this week's US Weekly poll, it was mentioned that Paris Hilton supporter Spencer Pratt was collecting signatures for her pardon!?!? :eek: Who recognizes that name? :rolleyes:

Jill1228 05-18-2007 05:23 PM

I have no sympathy for her. Don't give me the "I didn't know my license was suspended bullshit". When you get your license pulled, you know it! Hell, you are probably counting the days till it is reinstated!

I know this might show my age a little, but she kinda reminds me of "Queen of Mean" Leona Helmsley. "Only Little People Pay taxes" Except she is like, "Only little people go to jail" :rolleyes: Good ol' Leona went right to the slammer and I hope Paris does too

Suck it up heffa! Take it like a woman, put on your big girl panties and deal with it!

Unregistered- 05-18-2007 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTABullwinkle (Post 1450439)
In this week's US Weekly poll, it was mentioned that Paris Hilton supporter Spencer Pratt was collecting signatures for her pardon!?!? :eek: Who recognizes that name? :rolleyes:

Hello...we all know he has ulterior motives.

Move up the slut socialite chain. Today, the MTV Reality Hoez. Tomorrow, the slutty billionaire heiress.

DaemonSeid 05-18-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1450451)
Hello...we all know he has ulterior motives.

Move up the slut socialite chain. Today, the MTV Reality Hoez. Tomorrow, the slutty billionaire heiress.

pick a title for the new reality show

"Coming this Fall"

The Hilton Jailhouse File

Countdown to he Fall of Paris

Deep Inside Paris (I got rights on the porno title)

jon1856 05-18-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1443832)
It's different all over. A Breathalyzer refusal in Oklahoma will result in a one-year automatic suspension of your driver's license.

Some departments are now equipping these sensors which attack to the top of the cop's little clipboard thing which can get a measure your BAC from a pretty good distance. The cop just leans in a little when he's asking for your information and he's got your BAC.

They don't need your consent for that -- it's not a search because you have no expectation of privacy as to your breath. Neat, eh?

My town has them on their flashlights.
And IIRC, where I live you need to have three cards with you when you drive: License, registration, and insurance card.

JWithers 05-18-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1450458)
pick a title for the new reality show

"Coming this Fall"

The Hilton Jailhouse File

Countdown to he Fall of Paris

Deep Inside Paris (I got rights on the porno title)


"Last Tango in Paris", oh wait.....that's taken.......:p

moe.ron 05-19-2007 12:27 AM

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AlexMack 05-19-2007 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1450655)

You rock so hard.


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