hmm, how did i miss this! bwhahaha
(i would LOVE to facebook them heehee)

Lol... Ok, so I did, and a cursory FB search shows that 11 men list Pi Kappa Alpha in their profile as their "residence," and only one of those men is a current student. IIRC, there were ~55 members of the colony initially.

There are 29 men who list Kappa Alpha Psi as their residence... and more who list it under activities/interests.

I don't know how many went from Pike to KAPsi, but I do know that a large number of the Pike colonists no longer associate themselves with the organization.

So this phenomenon negates some other threads on here. :p
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ht=pike+howard
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ht=pike+howard
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...pike%2C+howard

I wonder if the Pike colonist who posted here is now a Kappa?

Why? It was just a matter of the Kappas coming back on the yard. :D But I am mad at the Kappas for taking them--oh wait they have been doing some strange intaking lately.

That's the part that grinds my gears. But hey.... once again a check matters more than thorough research.

Awwww...hate to say "we told them so." :p

Some of us predicted that this would happen.

But you know Shid, research didn't play into this. Those guys were highly visible on that campus as Pike Colonists. In fact they were highly visible on the world wide web talking about finding their own niche. So I really wonder what the Kappas were thinking? And I wonder what the Pike HQ is thinking?

They were graduate members who wanted to reactivate the chapter and get these hungry wannabes out of their faces. Undergrad members wouldn't have let these Pikes in.

"Darn, we won't be the next LXA at A&T afterall."

I hate you so much. :)

We all know how it can be when a chapter is reactivated by members who are not on campus 24/7 :(

thats interesting what sorority
 

I was just wondering what sorority. Thinking about the Christian sorority that I belong too, it takes a lot of work and dedication to be an active memeber. We don't allow "dual enrollment" in other sororities because there is no way one person can be dedicated to both.

Alpha Lambda Omega Christian Sorority, Inc.
Founded 1990
www.alocs.org
Giving back to Jesus what he gave to us...Our lives!

May not be allowed (or at least VERY taboo), but it has been done, more times than you would expect....

YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!! :D

lol, not really, just procrastinating right now :)

hypothetical question
 

Okay, I just want to be clear that this does not apply to me and I am just wanting to know for the sake of my curiosity.
My question is groups that are part of the college NPC but not nationally, like a sorority for science majors. What if a woman rushes and joins science major sorority and gets initiated, then for some reason drops out. Would she then be ineligible to rush and join a NPC that is part of the 26 sororities? Would it make a difference is she switched schools, or possibly changed to a non-science major and would be ineligible for a science major only sorority?

I am just curious after ready a post my someone in a different thread that said that music sorority members could join NPC sororities, but am wondering if a major related sorority could do the same if that major related sorority was part of the colllege panhellenic counsil.

Thank a bunch for your info, I am just really too curious some times.

As long as she has not been initated into one of the 26 NPCs, she is free to join one. College PHC has nothing to do with National rules.

okay, thanks.

This may not be true at the collegiate level if the non-NPC sorority is a member of the campus Panhel. Your friend will need to check the Panhel rules of her campus or the campus she is transferring to.

If the initiated women quits the non-NPC sorority that is a member of the Panhel, her campus Panhel rules may prevent her from joining any other Panhel sorority. Likewise, if the initiated women transfers to another campus where the non-NPC sorority is a member of the Panhel, that campus Panhel rules may prevent her from joining any other Panhel sorority even if she has quit the non-NPC sorority.

For example, Alpha Sigma Kappa (social eng sorority), and Ceres (social ag sorority), Phi Sigma Rho (social eng sorority) are non-NPC social sororities that do not allow dual membership with NPC sororities and are often members of their campus Panhels.

If a women were to depledge ASK, Ceres, or PhiSigRho then unless there was a campus rule prohibiting it, she is free to join an NPC.
I know people don't like hearing this, but in all reality, it's not the rules of the depledged group that apply...it's the rules of the group that is admitting the woman after she depledged. It's up to them to accept the depledged woman. The unianimous agreements only apply to NPC - and there are similar agreements with NPHC. Now, I will say that I don't think a group that has Pan-Hel or internal rules about accepting depledged women from Non-NPCs should break those rules for anyone.

If a women just "depledges", she is free to join any sorority. I was just refering to the case where a women has been "initiated" into a non-NPC sorority, which is also a campus Panhel member. In such a case, the campus Panhel may have a rule prohibiting the woman from joining any other member of Panhel (NPC or non-NPC).

Not to sound harsh!

This has been discussed so many tmes.:eek:

If You are a member of a Major GLO, you cannot Join another.

If You have depledged, You may have to wait a year?

I am not sure, but it seems pretty simple with out belaboring the point?;)

IFC to NPHC
 

Please forgive me if already covered, but there has been little talk regarding denouncing your letters in an IFC fraternity and going through intake with a NPHC organization. Does this happen often? Is it even allowed? A recently deaffiliated Sigma Nu brother (yes, traitor knight, as adequately stated earlier) now just came off probate with Phi Beta Sigma and it just blew my mind!

I'm betting that Phi Beta Sigma has NO CLUE he was in an NIC group. It's not allowed.

Does this happen often? No it does not. Is it allowed? Only if both fraternities allow it.

I am not familiar with NPHC policies, but as far as the NIC is concerned, an NIC fraternity may initiate a member from other inter/national fraternities (NPHC, IFC, NIC and others) only after the man terminates his membership and is granted a release from IHQ. Having said that, not all NIC (IFC) fraternities may choose to initiate terminated members of other fraternities.

My thoughts as well.

It's a small campus. I have a feeling they know. Not to mention he has a car accident injury rending him with one and a half arms - pretty distinctive. And I know from when I was the only black member of Sigma Nu on my campus during my time there (as he was when he dropped letters), that we tend to stick out, especially at All-Greek events.

The thing that pisses me off most is that he owes my organization a crapload of money. I know, we should have gotten rid of him when we realized he was worthless, but at the time, we couldn't be as ruthless as was expected of us. That has DEFINITELY changed. Well, I guess collections can handle that and the Sigmas can have what used to be OUR problem.

Do you know where i can actually find these regs in writing?

Definitely allow collections to handle the financial issues.

Each fraternity has their own rules regarding membership etc., so you will need to check with the headquarters for both Phi Beta Sigma and Sigma Nu.

NIC by-laws, however, do provide as follows:

Section 1. Membership Requirements.

(a) Fraternity Membership. To be eligible for membership in the Conference, a fraternity must:

. . .


(3) Be mutually exclusive of and in competition with other general fraternities, meaning that no member fraternity shall initiate a member of another fraternity until such time as the second fraternity shall have been formally notified in writing by the national office of the first fraternity that a candidate for membership in the second fraternity is no longer regarded as a member of the fraternity.

So for Sigma Nu, at least, I would think this would be the minimum standard. Sigma Nu could, of course, adopt a more stringent standard but not a less stringent one, no?

What exactly is NIC? I've never heard of it before until today. We only ever talked about IFC.

The National Interfraternity Conference. It is the international umbrella organization that most, but not all, social fraternities belong to.

IFC is a campus organization, and membership will vary by campus. Chapters of NIC fraternities will almost always be members, but it may also have non-NIC members.

Put it this way -- Sigma Nu Fraternity is a member of the NIC. Your chapter of Sigma Nu is a member of your campus IFC.

I'm a Proud Member of Alpha Phi Omega National Service Fraternity and also a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Inc. and for what I read from some of the people on here they got some problems!!!

What to do?
 

If you know for a fact that someone is in a NPHC sorority and has now pledged an NPC sorority...should you say something?

Personally, I say no. Yes that person is breaking the rules, but going out of your way to make her miserable is petty. If you're asked, be honest. And if it's your chapter/GLO by all means say something. But let her get herself busted so she has no one to blame but herself and karma.

The NPHC members here may feel differently, but there you go.

Frankly, as long as she doesn't go around trying to reap the benefits of her NPHC sorority (repping, networking, sisterhood, official activities, etc.) then I say good riddance...:cool:

Although I would rather she give back her letters or get expelled but...

Well, it's pretty obvious she is still representing the NPHC sorority. It's on her FB, in her name, her profile picture yet...she's in a picture with a NPC pledge class. I'll just keep my mouth shut. She'll be found out at some point.

I have the challenge that call on the issue of local orgs. I don't think that founding or being a member of a local GLO inherently bars you from membership in a more established national social org.

I would think depending on the degree the local was a full-fledged (locally) well-known established fraternity as opposed to it being an unorganized or unincorporated Greek letter club, whether or not your affiliation or association with such an org would disqualify you as a member of an NIC/NPC/NPHC organization would have to be on a case-by-case basis.

While I understand by general principle that such affiliation would disqualify you from joining a larger org, due to the lesser-known and less established nature of such orgs, I wouldn't be so quick to say that such affiliation will shut you out of another org, especially if the likelihood of its existence and being "found out about" falls under the radar.

Alpha Phi Alpha is quite clear on this. Your rules may vary.