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UGAalum94 04-09-2007 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1426285)
No, my point is that Disney will not care about pissing off people who have no effect on their bottom line. Why would you be surprised that after an 8 year boycott ended by the boycotters the boycotee would still act the same?

How did you miss that?

Shinerbock is potentially correct. If all the SBs really HAD boycotted Disney it might have had an effect, but it was not well supported. (Even LESS of a reason for Disney to give a damn about the SBs' opinions)

I saw the new "Fairy Tale Wedding" position as an acceleration or escalation of a issue that could have been avoided or delayed since resolution of the real issue of gay marriage is, I think, going to happen pretty soon anyway. I agree that one of my very first posts expressing surprise may have been a stupid one, since you are right that Disney has indicated that they don't care about boycotts.

But my big long posts were, I thought, more about why a group might participate in a boycott even if Disney didn't care and wouldn't change its policy. So I was surprised to find out that we were still talking about the effectiveness of a boycott on Disney. I wasn't trying to be a jerk with my last post. I was serious. Okay, it's not surprising, especially considering the track record, that Disney didn't care about the potential for a boycott.

But, the effect on Disney is not, in my opinion, the only reason that a boycott of Disney could be a useful exercise for the SBs as far as I'm concerned. On some level, it may demonstrate to other groups that a SB boycott doesn't hurt you much, and on that level may be counterproductive as far as using boycotts to effect changes in the marketplace. But as far as internal cohesion and a sense of shared purpose, principle, and morality within the group, the boycott could have been effective whether it was crippling for Disney or not. As it turns out, if Shinerbock is right, it didn't even work on that level, so

Secular sexuality neutral society 1
Southern Baptists 0

Alphagamuga, for wasting her time on this argument, finishes behind both groups.

SOPi_Jawbreaker 04-09-2007 08:03 PM

Disney is also coming out with a Disney princess wedding dress line. Woohoo!!! :p

http://bridalwave.tv/2007/02/disney_to_make.html

DSTCHAOS 04-09-2007 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga (Post 1426243)
This is unsurprising and probably happens a lot with boycotts, but kind of funny in light of the position of principle I was working so hard to carve out for them.

A boycott doesn't work on any level, external or internal, if nobody really boycotts, but they have to be aware of their own hypocrisy the whole time.


And it doesn't work if the "boycotters" don't patron Disney, anyway.

"I've never bought a DVD, toy, or gone to their theme park...but I certainly won't now!!!" You probably wouldn't have without this boycott.

Also, what about the other products that Disney sponsors? Doesn't Disney have its brand name on things that aren't obviously Disney?

AlexMack 04-09-2007 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1426934)
And it doesn't work if the "boycotters" don't patron Disney, anyway.

"I've never bought a DVD, toy, or gone to their theme park...but I certainly won't now!!!" You probably wouldn't have without this boycott.

Also, what about the other products that Disney sponsors? Doesn't Disney have its brand name on things that aren't obviously Disney?

Exactly. Disney have put their oar in a lot of other ventures. I mean, they own ABC for starters.

Shiner-I knew we would :D but at least we can do it civilly.

JonInKC 04-10-2007 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker (Post 1426929)
Disney is also coming out with a Disney princess wedding dress line. Woohoo!!! :p

http://bridalwave.tv/2007/02/disney_to_make.html

I assume it's for women, but you never know anymore. What with the fairy weddings and what-have-you.


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