I watched Miss USA also, and all those women looked like they ate. Just because they are not over weight does not mean they don't eat. Just because they don't look like the 64% of Americans that are overweight does not mean they need to also look like that. They all looked very healthy to me and I admire them for that. Just because the majority of people are overweight does not mean it's normal or healthy to be overweight. If it was your job or life dream to be Miss USA I'm sure you could devote your time to having their figure too. But everyone has their own priorities and there isn't anything wrong with that either. But don't act like women who are completely healthy are somehow incorrect.

Many pageant contestant are underweight by health chart standards. I agree that we don't have to assume that everyone who isn't obese is underweight, but don't go crazy with what you think normal weight is either.

Got jokes!:D Look, the bruhs (Ques or Omegas) are thorough. It's in our fraternal genes. "Blood, sweat and tears to make Omega..." as men seeking to become Omegas have sung for generations. The contestant should have said "Gold boot camp." LOL

I was wondering the same.




Also Kudos to the Omegas and the Beauty Queen!:D

Best Earpism ever. :eek:

Yes it is a fact, at this point, but these guys seems to be making a start at trying to change a preconcieved idea of beauty and kudos to them for it. I am larger (and before you ask no, not telling you how big, but I often refer to myself as a fat chick) and I see nothing wrong with this as long as it is done with taste. It seems like these men are taking it seriously and trying to make a point that beautiful doesn't have anything to do with big or small. This is no different then having a special beauty pagent for an ethnic group or a lifestyle in my opinion. Frankly I see this as something great. It is showing that people can be valued and judged by different standards of beautiful. Think what a great message this is sending to kids, you don't have to fit a stereotype to be beautiful.

Did you want people to only latch onto that part of what you said? Or the whole post? It's not weird. It's GC. You've been a member since 2006. You should be used to it by now.

Exactly.

I was kinda wondering the same thing, but if not I think it's awesome that they are putting their time and effort into something like this.

I love you.

Get over yourself. You need to watch the MTV episode on overweight people. There was a girl on there who was into pageants.... she starved herself by eating only cottage cheese all day. It may not be normal or healthy to be overweight (even tho NORMAL could mean anything nowadays), but it's definitely not normal or healthy the way most of those pageant girls take care of themselves.

I would like to see a Miss FUPA contest. Now that would be the tits.

Or Miss Cameltoe?

And I'm sure MTV is really concerned about representing things the way they actually are and not the extremes for entertainment sake. They are after all an educational television channel.

I participated in a few beauty pageants when I was in high school and although the girls there were a lot more concerned with their appearance then many other girls, unhealthy eating was just as common as it is in the entire population of girls of that age, no more no less. Show me 10 young women, no matter if they are in beauty pageants or not, and I'll show you 10 young women with not so perfect eating habits. We are after all subjected to university cafeteria food.

According to recent studies the average woman is actually a size 14.

yeah I'm kinda feeling that

Answers a lot.

This doesn't make sense. I can show you 10 young women. So what? If I tried hard enough I could show you 10 hermaphrodites. Or 10 fingers and toes. Elaborate?

Did you mean to quote me and respond to my post or were you speaking in general? I've already indicated my support of such an event.

Kudos to the Ques for this event. The only beauty pageant that I have ever heard of that caters to voluptuous women is the one hosted by comedian/actress Monique. Unfortunately, society standards of beauty do not come in full figured packages so since society refuses to acknowledge the beauty of curvy women, then why not create something, like Monique, where the beauty of curvy women will be celebrated. I highly doubt we will ever see a pageant where a size 1 and a size 22 can compete against each other. Heck, the modeling industry is just now starting to create plus size modeling divisions, which are still quite rare.

Absolutely not true. Very few people can possibly, even with starving themselves, have a beauty queen body. Most people just are not built like that. Hell, my skeleton alone probably wouldn't fit into anything smaller than an 8. I could starve myself, have surgery, etc and still never be a size 2.

Full Figured Frame.
 

Here's the article about the results of the pageant.
http://www.wkuherald.com/media/stora...-2824808.shtml

The familiar beat of the "Pink Panther" theme song plays as 13 beautiful, curvaceous women enter from the back of the packed DUC Theater. They prance down the aisles, donning fatigue pants, purple shirts with gold writing, and glimmering, spray-painted golden shoes.

They sway their hips and snap their fingers to the rhythm as they smile seductively at the those they pass.

Audience members in the front rows squirmed and turned their bodies to unimaginable angles, nearly breaking their necks to see the women as they enter the theater.

That's when they see them.

They are the contestants of the inaugural Miss Omega Pageant, a showcase for the full-figured women on Western's campus.

The Miss Omega Pageant is hosted by Omega Psi Phi fraternity. They decided to host a pageant for full-figured women to embrace the beauty of a woman's curves, said Western alumnus Montez Phillips, co-coordinator of the pageant.

"This pageant is showing that we are beautiful," said contestant LaTya Palms, a freshman from Nashville, Tenn. "Beauty has no size."

As the women walk onto the stage, the crowd erupts into a frenzy. They confidently strut to the center, moving their bodies, smiling energetically and captivating the audience. All eyes are on them.

The contestants of the pageant began popping their chests and shaking their hips to the beat of the music.

Beyonce's "Crazy in Love" echoed from the speakers as audience members swayed back and forth, singing along to the music and cheering for the 13 women.

The Omegas felt there was an absence in the classic celebration of pageantry, according to their pageant advertising book. They wanted to show full-figured women in their finest elements.

Yet Miss Omega was no easy show to prepare for. Contestants endured about 10 weeks of intense, rigorous practices to ensure the success of the show.

At first, there were about four practices a week, which each lasted about four to five hours. As time progressed, the practice regime intensified.

Contestants practiced five to six days a week, about four to five hours a night.

"The pageant took a lot of my time," said contestant Bryttnee Price, a Louisville freshman. "When it's over, I'm going to miss being around these ladies; we've connected. However, this will give me time to do other things on campus."

Baltimore graduate student Branson Holly, an organizer of the event, demanded a lot of time for practices to ensure the longevity of the pageant. The progress of the pageant depended on the contestants, he said.

During one of the several Miss Omega practices, one contestant leaned over to another while Holly was speaking.

She joked that it was unfair for her competitor to participate in the pageant, because she had lost so much weight from practicing.

Plus-sized typically describes women who wear a dress size ranging from 14 to 24. There is no absolute weight distribution to determine exactly what is plus-sized, because of the variations in different bodily characteristics, like height and bone structure, Holly said.

Price said the pageant has helped her tune into her self-confidence and self-respect more.

"This show presents something good to the public," Price said. "We are a population who is often overlooked."

The Miss Omega Pageant consisted of five categories: business, "nitelife," sleepwear, talents and formal walks.

Performance after performance, the audience was amazed and entertained from beginning to end.

Whether it was contestant Arielle Holt, a Louisville junior, performing a spiritual dance to Tye Tribbitt's "Thank You," or contestant Andrea McMurry, a Louisville sophomore, suggestively dipping her body during the sleepwear portion, the audience continuously gave roaring applauses and standing ovations.

As the night came to a close, contestants, coordinators and audience members awaited the announcement they had been dying to hear all night.

Price was crowned the first Western Kentucky University Miss Omega.

As Master of Ceremony and Western alumnus Lemarceo Shemwell announced her name, she fell to her knees crying. Other contestants and audience members crowded around her, congratulating Miss Omega as she was crowned and received a bouquet of flowers.

"This is so unexpected," she said. "I'm at a loss of words. This title holds a lot of responsibility, and during my reign I will represent it well."

Second runner up was Louisville junior Jessica Sutherland, and first runner up was Holt.

Palms' predictions were correct.

"We're gonna show out the night of the pageant and look better than any of them skinny girls," she said.

From audience's reactions, they did.

Reach Stephanie Keene at features@wkuherald.com.

All's well that ends well. :)

Precisely!

Sounds like it was a lovely event that was well coordinated and attended! Kudos to the Omegas at WKU and to the participants in the pageant!!:D

Someone on GC (I didn't search the thread again) predicted this.:)

The blood, sweat, and tears paid off! Good Job!!!

The point of the pageant in three sentences.

Again, kudos to the Omegas. :)

Watch out the big girls... now I wanna be in a pageant :(

That's a great outcome! I'm just curious why there were no non-African American participants, only because it seems that (in my experience) plus size African American women are accepted more than plus size white women.

PMMama: what I thought was weird was that with I think one totally positive and one mainly positive posts, people chose to comment on the one area that might be negative. You're right though, it may be the GreekChat way. Thanks so much for pointing that out. You are a ray of illuminating sunshine an a dark and confusing GreekChat world.

I am really happy that the pageant was a success! Nice job to everyone involved and for Wolfman for bringing it to our attention.

Many people don't understand pageants, so they ridicule them at every chance. Many people don't understand Greek life, so they ridicule it, too. Ever think of it that way?

ACP!!!


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'll agree with that too. Why is that?

My guess is that none entered because it was an Omega event and they decided that it must not be for them because they were nervous like that.

Interesting. I'm presently a size 12, and it is nearly impossible to find clothes that fit properly. (I have been a size 8, sometimes even a 6 most of my life, but am still working to regain my figure with 2 children under the age of 3. :) ) Clothing at most stores is cut for a smaller frame. I finally decided to try to see if I could find a pair of jeans that fit well at Lane Bryant...the second I walked into the store, the saleslady said "honey, nothing in here is going to fit you." :(

You'd think that if the average size is actually a 14, it might be a little easier for women in the 10-16ish range to actually find clothes! What in the world do they expect us to wear? :confused:

/end tangent

Continuing the tangent, sorry.

My husband and I were talking about this yesterday after a trip to The Gap. What we were thinking is that the morbidly obese people, like half-ton man, are throwing off the averages quite a bit. The range down from a size 14 is relatively limited compared with the range up from there. If they aren't discounting the outliers at the top of the range, well, there you go.

But I hear you about how hard it is to find clothes that fit well or simply look decent if you're size eight through 14, and most of the people who wear these sizes would have healthy BMIs, so we are not talking about overweight people from a health standpoint.

I think I once read that the average for a man's waist size is a about a 40 to give people a sense of the guy equivalent of what "average" is. *

I think the fashion industry is aimed at a certain segment of the market and the rest of us are just supposed to make due.

* while it's easy to find sites discussing women's clothing sizes, almost every search for men returns a bunch of results on penis size. I wonder what that says about our culture?

I think Nicole Richie, Lilo, Paris, and Hilary Duff make up for that, though.

Hell, Nicole Richie alone knocks off 5 fat guys.

I fit right into this category with you. A 10 is way too small and a 14 is too big. Some 12's don't fit right depending on the store. Good luck on getting that figure back. I haven't been an 8 since the year B.K. (before kids) ;)

AlphaFrog, I know what you are saying and yet as far as averages, Nicole can't really go below a size zero zero or whatever, which would be what eight sizes below 14, whereas going up, we've got infinity.

And, I think almost every article on health basically admits obesity is maybe the single greatest health issue for the country with diabetes, high blood pressure, hearth disease, associated. We are not a nation of thin people.

But again, I want to point out that the people in the pageant whose thread I'm digressing from are probably more in the healthy and beautiful range of larger sizes. The pageant is good and corrects somewhat from the idea that being underweight is what's desirable.

Well, originally i was going to say something like be as thin as them, or be their size, but i realize that for some people that is not true. I said "figure" in terms of the silhouette of the body. the human eye is attracted to certain proportions of the human body. I'm not sure exactly the number but, if you divide the measurement of your waist into your hips the ideal proportion is something like .87 for women. So, obviously, you could be a size 8 and still have those proportions. That is what i meant by figure, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Everyone does have a different body type, but size 24 is not a body type, it's over weight. People need to stop lying to themselves.

Obviously you do not understand this phrase. I was inferring that 10 out of 10 young women have bad eating habits. And by bad i don't mean they don't eat enough, but maybe they eat fast food 3 times a week or fry everything in sight or can't eat only 2 oreos, but have to eat half the bag. Unhealthy eating can be something other than anorexic, like those of an overweight person in a plus size beauty pageant.

I believe most major plus-size brands stop at 30 or MAYBE 32 - which is 9 sizes up. After that, I believe you'd just have to get custom stuff made and wouldn't be a particular "size".

ETA: I'm not trying to "argue" with you or be difficult...just thinking out loud/dialogue type thing...

What you assert is correct, but the reality is that, essentially, historically BGLOs and historically WGLOs exist in different social spaces in college life. Thus, there must be some intentionality for non-African Americans to participate in NPHC events like this.There are rare exceptions of this phenomenon. For example, a couple of years ago, the winner of the Miss Omega Psi Phi Pageant at LSU was caucasian.

http://www.mightyninth.org/docs/news...s/spring05.pdf (p.3)
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle...&ATCLID=174864

AlphaFrog, It's interesting to think about. Consider my comments in the same theoretical way please.

I thought you got into kind of a whole different system with W this and that. Do you suppose that the difference between the sizes is greater in the bigger sizes?

Because let's say for a second that a 16 is actually double the size of an eight, which I don't think is actually right (especially when you think about the fact that eights are not double the size of fours), wouldn't it seem like one sees a number of people who are more than double a 16 actually out wearing regular looking clothes in the real world?

The biggest people that I know are clearly more than double the size of other overweight people who I suspect are wearing 14/16/18 sized clothes. Yet, they are dressed like everyone else albeit on a greater scale.

I was assuming that the sizing continued in much the same way all the way up the human population range.

I think it's more like size 8 is 2" bigger (just an ex. - I don't know the actual scale) than 6, and 10 is 2" bigger than 8...I don't think the scale all of a sudden starts jumping at a certain point. There's still enough graduation among overweight people to warrant using the same scale all the way up. You don't go from slightly overweight to whale with few steps in between.

Oh, I understand how one gains weight maybe too well.

What I was trying to account for was how if it's hard to find clothes that fit in standard regular sizes, do some of the people that I see in public find normal looking clothes if the biggest size in 32?

I'm thinking of people I think are more than 32 inches bigger around than a size 16.

Maybe it is custom clothing.