cheerfulgreek is white.
christiangirl is black.

:)

And, that's the only difference. ;)

Not the only one! But good point, I hadn't thought about that.

Exactly. Plus - you can see "good" sex on any sitcom nowadays. You can watch TV and see a couple all hot, sweaty, tired, and satisfied and then think to yourself, "Hm. All I do is lay there and never feel the need to be tired or satisfied."

Hahahahahahahahahaha! I will use this term from now on.

I used to be a strong christian...before I lost my faith and became a giant asshole...anywho I also used to believe the same thing. If I had nothing to compare to, the sex would be amazing to me.
The reality is sorely disappointing. You won't know what you're doing in bed, if he's a virgin, he won't know, most likely you'll be really shy about your sexuality and after repressing it for so long, who knows if you'll ever be able to truly open up?
I'm not saying run out, sleep around like a $10 hooker, but...IDK...maybe wait until you're engaged?
Sex is not that great unless someone knows what the hell they're doing in bed. Anyone here will tell you that.

Centaur532 ~ I plan on marrying a somewhat experienced man. Not to endorse a double standard or anything but I'd feel quite dumb on my wedding night. And it would make us stronger, if he wanted to wait and be faithful to me for that long.

I'm sorry your reality was sorely disappointing. But not to sound like I'm trivializing the whole thing but....it's sex. I will know what I'm doing. I may not do it very well, but I'll have my whole life to practice. Even if that first time, neither or us knows what we're doing, that won't be true forever. Eventually, one of us will know "what the hell we're doing." I'm a smart cookie and pretty aggressive...I'll figure it out. :)

New question: AFTER 2 YEARS, WHY IS THE ONLY THREAD I POST THAT IS ABOUT SEX THE ONLY TO BECOME A "HOT" THREAD?? All the others died after like a page except for one I think.

I will say it does make a difference. I'm all about integrity, standing by your beliefs, but sex is fun. It's supposed to be fun. The most important part is finding someone who you're completely comfortable with in an intimate setting, someone who won't make you feel dumb.

EDIT: ^^^if you say so...remember who's been laid here and who hasn't...

I think you misread. What I'm saying is, if we are both inexperienced I'd feel dumb. I will stand by MY beleifs but I can't force "him" to beleive in waiting. By the time I meet him if he has lost it already, he can't take it back and I have to know that now before I meet someone. At any rate, I think I'd feel more comfortable with him knowing things about sex versus someone who doesn't know anything.

What a second...HOW'D WE GET BACK TO THIS TOPIC?? lol We're supposed to talk about the potentially diseased people we're dating.

CHLAMYDIA IS A FLOWER I SWEAR!

Wow... Great connection. :rolleyes: :p

Which is exactly why the "how many" question is dumb to ask a man or a woman.

Keep standing for YOUR beliefs and living YOUR life.

The only things you should care about regarding a man's past are: 1) if he's been regularly tested for ALL STDS and can prove that he's negative, 2) does he have children, legititimate or illegitimate, and 3) does he have remnants of his past (former lovers, a desire to be a playa, etc.) haunting him still.

Honestly answering a question doesn't preclude being judgmental. There was an obvious value judgment in his post and he even admitted so by admitting to a double standard.

I never said honesty and judgements were related. IMO, the fact that he started the statement with "I think" instead of "It is" shows that he was expressing an opinion rather than passing a judgement. Unless the double standard is admitting that his values are different from others', then I didn't see one, but that's me.

Nah, the reality is that statements that start with "I think" can be just as judgmental as those that start with "It is" - PrettyBoy is entitled to his own opinion and values, and he wasn't really being a dick about it, but it's still pretty plainly there.

They can be--whether or not it was here is subjective. I guess my glasses have a different lens.;)

Not subjective at all. We all have different lens. That doesn't make the truth any less apparent.

In certain matters, I believe even the truth itself is subjective, making an absolute, objective truth, not only less apparent, but downright nonexistent. This is one of those matters.

But like I said: that's just how I see it. That's the truth to me. If you see it differently and no one unjustly suffers from that difference, then that's :cool:.

I knew this was coming.:rolleyes: Very funny.:D I always get picked on here at this site, but that's cool. Greeks started picking on me my 1st night on this site because of my screen name. Hey, its cool though. My fraternity brothers tease me all the time because I'm not like them. They still love me for me though.;) Besides, I never picked my screen name because I think I'm attractive. I picked it because women do, and I haven't met a woman yet who hasn't found me attractive, so it's not like I can't get with a lot of women sexually, I just choose not too. I want to see what she's about 1st. They always want more than friendship from me, so why not go with the flow.:)

DSTCHAOS hit it on the nose. 4 or more, and a woman is not PrettyBoy material. :rolleyes: You don't have to have a lot of partners to know how to have good sex and please your partner. Why even have sex if you can't please your partner. I would get more satisfaction knowing she was pleased rather than being pleased myself.

I'm not being judgemental, I've dealt with women who have had several partners and I don't really care for women like that. I only dealt with them because they lied to me by telling me what I wanted to hear just so they could get involved with me. I never get along with women like this, so it's not like I didn't give them a chance. If I just shut them out, then that's being judgemental. Now, I'll be friends with them and that's it, and even then I would rather not even associate myself with them at all. You all can laugh at me if you want, it doesn't bother me, I actually found these post to be funny too. Well, I gotta finish my sketches.

Later.;)

That reminds me of that Thompson Twins song from the 80's.

"Doctor doctor,
when I pee it's burnin' burnin'
Oh doctor doctor,
is this gon-or-heeeeeeeeeeahhhhhhh"

AAAANNNDDDD he sketches?? WHY THE HELL DID I MEET YOU ON THE NET INSTEAD OF REAL LIFE???

This is pissing me off. Someone up there is laughing at me. SO. HARD.

PrettyBoy if you're not lying, YOU ARE RARE! Are you a virgin? Seriously are you, because if women are attracted to you like you say they are and you keep turning them down, then you're either a scared virgin or they're butt ugly. Which one is it? Guys like you died out in the 50s. 1850s!

What kind of sketches are you doing? Do you draw people?

If I'm with a guy, I will eventually ask how many partners he's had. My X told me he slept with 29 girls. Then he said he thinks it was 29.:rolleyes: Well, he was my 1st (unfortunately) and the only guy I've been intimate with, but we broke up for good just recently, and I've dated a lot guys since we broke up, and all of them wanted to get into my pants. (guys are such pigs) I know their little game now. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I think if I wanted a serious intimate realtionship, I gotta know how many. It wouldn't really matter as much, I just wanna know. If I had my choice I would prefer to be with someone with a lower amount of sexual partners.

The sex I had was bad, I guess. :confused: I mean it wasn't what I thought it would be. It was really quick. Not sure why, but everytime we did it, it was quick and kind of rough. He wasn't gentle at all. I've always heard that it's supposed to hurt the 1st time, but I didn't feel any pain. It was over before I could feel anything. I always knew when it was about to be over with because that's when he would get really aggressive with me. "Ouch". Once he was done then he would fall asleep and snore. No pillow talk or anything.:( What a jerk. I just had a bad experience. I wish my 1st could have been with someone more committed, more romantic and not a cheater. I'm going through drama with him now. He wants me back really bad, and I won't go back. I went back too many times and he kept cheating. I'm older now and I'm not wasting my time with jerks anymore. The next guy I give my body to has to me marriage material.

No, I'm not a virgin, and some of the women that I have come in contact with are attractive and some aren't. I've had two relationships. One was kind of serious, but I eventually realized she was a slut, because she cheated on me. The 2nd one was very, very serious. I really don't want to go into detail about that one, but I was in love with her. I was really hurt by that one, which is why I haven't gotten involved in another relationship since. I've tried dating, but the excitement and trust just isn't there anymore. Both women that I was with had a very, very high number of partners before me. So I've just been intimate with two.

I can sketch pretty much anything. I'm taking classes for auto design, so I generally don't draw the human body much anymore. I used to draw from live models mostly, but now I only draw people next to the vehicles I design only to show scale. Last night I had to do 100 ideation sketches of a boring youth vehicle.

Punch me in the neck.

Tell me about it. You're situation sounds similar to mine. Dating doesn't excite me anymore either. I went out with this guy tonight. Same guy I've been going out with for the past week. We went to the movies and to eat. He said he was going to pay for the whole date. I offered to pay for dinner or the movie. But he insisted on paying for both. Well to make a long story short, he paid for the movies, but when we went to dinner his card declined, and he didn't have any cash on him. He kept saying "I know there's money on this card". It was his debit card, and the bill was only like $17.00 so that meant he didn't even have $17.00 in his account. He used the same card at the movies, so that's why he didn't have enough. He was really embarrased. I ended up paying for it, but I didn't think it was that big of a deal until he started talking about it all the way home. I wanted to say would you just like let it go!? I told him he doesn't have to take me out all the time. I just enjoy relaxing in front of a T.V. He just doesn't get it though.

When you say you draw live models, are they nude?

someone retitle this thread to "in this thread, GCers standby while PrettyBoy and the CGs go back and forth with their weird triangle."

okgreatthanks. stop letting your virginity define you. geez. like the weird AV kids... look like lame-o virgins but are secretly getting all the action in the projector room.

I think the $3.00 box of Milk Duds over drew his account.

Broke joker.

Yup, they're nude. Drawing models with lose fitting close takes more time when doing gesture drawings because of the folds. I haven't drawn models in while. It's all about transpotation design now.

LOL. Why do you use the term joker. OMG I'm laughing so hard right now. I don't know what it is about you referring to people as jokers but it's so funny. My stomach is hurting so bad. You are so bad. :p :p :p :p

Milk Duds?? LOL. Stop it!!!!
Look who's talking. You're the starving artist;)

I got you're PM. I just PMd you mine.

Would PrettyBoy and the two CGs just go have a threesome and get it over already?

But they are all celibate.

I suppose the three of them could just stand in a triangle and gaze meaningfully and longfully at each other . . .. oh and sigh a lot. ;)

ETA: No offense intended to the three posters . . just joking with you.

and AKA_Monet can come in a talk about some more tantra...

1. Hey hey, DISCLAIMER, not only have I admitted when I was hijacking and tried to fix it, I've not said half as much as the other CG. For the most part, I've kept my side convos and fantasies to a minimum. But if you'd like me to go off on a tangent on my dream about PB, then I can do that for you.:)

2. I was never the AV kid, I was the band geek, get it straight.

3. And I'm not celibate, I'm abstinent, there's a difference!!:p

Admit it, if the non-sex having people were really that lame, you guys wouldn't be in here watching us and commenting :rolleyes: :p.

LOL. Very funny James.

I've been celibate for over 4 years now. By choice of course. I would never just sleep with a woman without getting to know her 1st, and also knowing that she's the faithful committed kind of girl. That's why I've only been intimate with two women, because I've always been the committed type. I'm proud to say that I have never cheated, though I've been cheated on. Cheating never even crossed my mind. But now I've come to realize that I've chosen the wrong women and there really isn't anything out there worth getting serious with, plus I really have to concentrate on getting into the auto industry which is not doing well at all.:( Hopefully things will turn around for me at the same time. I'll get a nice young lady and get hired by a major car company at the same time. :D

You've only slept with 2 girls and YOU'VE BEEN CELIBATE FOR OVER 4 YEARS?!!!! OMG!!! HOW??? I love you! Let's get married.:p JK

I'm celibate only because I refuse to have sex with idiots and that's all that's out there, or that's all I've ever dated. My X was the only and last guy I slept with and that was about 7 months ago, so right now I'm pretty sexually frustrated.:p Most guys have had so many partners that I'm afraid I could catch something if I just slept around, plus if I'm going to do it again, this time I have to know it's going to be with a guy that's special and different from the rest. None of the FWB moronic bull.

Hey, since we're actually meeting at Nina's in a couple of weeks, what do you look like? I mean, how am I going to know it's you? Can I call you tomorrow? or did you wanna call me? Let me know.

See ya soon! :)

I stay busy, that's how.;)

I think you already have a mental picture of me, as I do of you, so lets see if our mental pictures can pick us out of the crowd. I know we'll find each other. Let's just see how long it takes us. Yeah, I'll call you, but it will have to be after 9pm ET. Gotta take advantage of those free minutes.:D

I dunno, I guess I just didn't wanna miss each other if we don't have an idea of what the other person looks like, that's all.

O.K. we'll do it your way.

That sounds like a great time for me. I'll keep my cell on. I can't believe we're doing this.:rolleyes:

Apparently, the 'Ships on GC thread needs a little bumpity-bump.:rolleyes:

Are you KAY10??? You remind me SO much of him.