Oh, yeah. And not just the events. Kids put addresses and contact info out there. It's a stalker's paradise.

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Well if you are on a campus w/ chatper houses it's pretty easy to determine where many of the members live. I remember when my initiation class moved into the house and they went over all of these safety measures - like not having a key chain w/ letters on it, that has the house keys on it. People posting all of this info are really putting themselves at risk.

Infomation on event timing, location, etc. is one of the reasons why I didn't do an elaborate wedding website- it's like an invitation for your house to be robbed- they know the house will be empty and potentially full of wedding gifts.

I see girls with their cell phone numbers on there all the time. :eek:

When I was an undergrad, the Board of Publications put out a Student Directory each year with the addresses and phone number we had listed with the Admissions Dept. It wasn't that big of a deal before, but after a while people got more and more concerned with privacy issues that they quit publishing them my senior year. It was a waste of paper, anyway.

Some people just don't think. You're basically asking for stalkers to come and get you!

Yeah, it's weird how our perceptions have changed.

Most of us aren't bothered by traditional phone book listings. But when you are online with a "map it" function, it's get's really weird, really fast.

But really, a picture, a name, an address and phone numbers all in one place and open to anyone who will register: not such a good thing.

Wait a minute - let me get this straight - this is an UNDERGRAD doing this?

An undergrad who is an active member of a sorority?

And she's the ONLY one checking this?

Umm, this is kind of like having one person on Panhel be the one to decide who did and who didn't commit rush infractions and - wonder of wonders - her sorority didn't, and the sorority that's her chapter's biggest rival did.

Imagine having one person on the Supreme Court.

Either the sororities should be self-policing according to guidelines from their HQ or set by their chapter, or the Greek advisor should be spot checking, but there is NO WAY IN HELL (ooh, bad word) that one undergrad should have that kind of power over the entire sorority community on ANYTHING.

I would definitely make up a nickname for her, leak it to all the other sororities, and then create a group called "Dalina Terrina = Adolf Hitler" or something of the like. It would be funny to see if she would be stupid enough to join it herself without knowing what it was about.

i have my phone number on my profile, but i also have it super restricted as to who can see it. yay for a varied myriad of privacy features.

but while we're on the topic, my boyfriend sent me this video link about facebook that's a bit disturbing:

http://albumoftheday.com/facebook/

The additional information on that site (at the bottom of the video) was a little conspiracy theorist for my taste, but again, paying attention to what you are making public particularly in one location is REALLY important.

wow that little video thing makes me glad I don't have a facebook page...

I really don't understand why it's fashionable to have pictures of 3 of your sisters holding you up for a keg stand while you're wearing a torn up shirt posted online. As such, I have no such pictures available for public viewing and would hope that none of my sisters do either. The whole "no curse words in a group name rule" is a little far to me. Actually having anyone tell you what you can and cannot have posted for a select group of your friends (profile set as private) is a bit far to me. I understand WHY individual groups feel the need to regulate this, many members do NOT have their profiles private, and that is exactly who should be in charge of setting the rules. In this federalism case, I don't think Panhel should be the ones taking charge of this. They can make suggestions sure, but I think the monitoring should be up to the chapters. I know in Zeta's latest newsletter issue there's a HUGE article on what is not appropriate to have online (http://www.zetataualpha.org/content/.../winter07.pdf). Hot button issue. And, as someone above me mentioned, what's to keep one bitter girl (or a even few) on Panhel from completely targeting out another group she isn't particularly fond of? There should be guidelines, but you can't expect a couple of collegiates to create and enforce them equally.

P.S. Everyone come join my new facebook group "I love taking rips off of beer bongs in my letters while my butt is hanging out of my skirt and posting pictures of it all later, bitch."

Is it common to have keys to your house? We just had a code that we put in the back door to the house that only initiated sisters were told. Even if you don't have your letters on a keychain, if someone who knows what organization you're in finds your keys, it wouldn't be too dificult to break in to the house. I know the same could be said of living anywhere but that's putting more than just yourself at risk--that's a whole houseful of girls (or guys).

I am an alum, but last time I checked the front door had a key- not a code. I believe that one house had a code and it became an issue because other ppl could learn it and no one ever answered their front door.

We had keys for our house. We also had the "no ASA" keychains rule.

Does the whole chapter have their cards programmed to get it, or just those who live in the house?


Our chapter, only sisters who lived in the house got a key.

Our house doors lock automatically when they're closed. Only in-house girls have a key. We also have the "no Alpha Phi memorabilia" on our keychains rule if you live in the house.

This key thing is making me feel old and sad.

We never thought of having a "no ASA keychains" rule - as a matter of fact, I think we were encouraged to have them, that way if someone found our keys they would know where to return them. The thought of someone breaking into our house never crossed our mind.

I am older- we had this rule in the mid-late 90's- but my campus was also in a semi-urban area and not the safest place.

also getting back to the whole myspace/facebook topic- there is a whole article on this in the latest issue of the Lyre. It boils down to the this- that members shouldn't put anything on their profile that they don't want to be public information and also makes the statement don't put anything in your profile that you wouldn't want your mother/grandmother to see.
Both very good points.

That's what we have, hence I have no way of getting in the house. It was even worse for New Member meetings which I was inevitably late for, because I'd have to call the house phone to be let in when there was no one downstairs, which there typically wasn't. The code was changed every semester.

Done and done. I created a sister group called 'keg stands in skirts, and I'm a sorostitute bitches!' because I just felt that facebook needed a touch of class.

EDIT: sorry for the double post.

Yep. Our advisor was just talking last night about the fact that your facebook profile isn't private no matter what you do. If someone wants to see it, they can. So there's only negative to come from posting incriminating things.

If your facebook profile (or myspace for that matter) is private it shouldn't matter, unless you're friending potential members. I see members on my campus friending PNMs all the time and it really bothers me that this hasn't been considered a rush infraction yet.

Now if you're profile is public and you're posting these types of pictures and joining those types of groups, then you better hope that your future employer doesn't know what Google is. They will hold it against you. Plus I wouldn't want any of my sisters having stuff like that in public. I'm all for free speech, but don't attach our organizations name to negative stuff.

Maybe I'm just being slow, but how is that possible if you have your facebook privacy set to show your profile only to friends? I know a lot of people have it set so everyone at the school can see it, but I have mine set to only confirmed friends can see it.

I don't know. Maybe I could figure out if I sat in front of the computer long enough. It's apparently not something your average college student can do, but major companies...i.e. future employers...can do this, she says.

I really don't believe her. I'm computer friendly but the only way they could do that is if Facebook gave companies unlimited access. I haven't heard of this being the case (and you'd think we'd find out, someone would blab) so I'd need more evidence.

If it's not cached by Google, is marked friend only (or even completely private), and isn't downloaded off of the server, ABC Company is not going to see it.

I actually believe that I've heard that Facebook is giving companies unlimited access. I can't remember where and I cannot back up my source, but I'm pretty sure they're doing it.

they are probably selling unlimited access in the name of market research.

It's not impossible, I just haven't seen or heard anything and nothing comes up on a search. There's something on Facebook's wiki page regarding privacy concerns that they'd share your info with companies they had a relationship with, but apparently they won't ever do that.

I do believe her, but I've got my own reasons...complicated. where there's a will, there's a way.

There is a box you uncheck about info sharing I believe...but I don't remember the specifics of it.

The other thing to keep in mind is...and this is the bottom line...if you write it down, someone can (and likely will) find it at some point. There are plenty of ways to get around security no matter what the medium.

All I'm saying is, if they did share that information, they'd have to disclose it in their privacy policy because otherwise they get sued for mucho $$$. They do state that no security is perfect and be careful. Realistically though it requires either hacking your computer for your temporary internet files, hacking your ISP and intercepting communications and hacking Facebook's servers. Companies aren't going to do that to look for applicants.