I never thought to ask. Just how rare is a Philomathean Badge from 1885? How often do they turn up? What is the size of the badges worn by members today? Thank you in advance for your answers!

Considering we were founded in 1852, and we didn't officially become "Phi Mu" until 1904, they're pretty rare. It's wonderful that you returned the badge to our national so it can take its rightful place in our museum :D.
My Phi Mu badge is about 1/2 an inch wide (estimating because I'm too tired to pull it out and measure it).

Phi Mu should be willing to give you an acknowledgement for this.

they did...
i read this story in the Aglaia. If I'm not mistaken, the woman wore the badge to a school event and a friend or someone there let her know it was a sorority badge and then she gave it to the FSU chapter to be turned in to national headquarters. It was not something financial or whatever, it was just simply an honorable act to do in the name of the great aunt who was a Philomathean.

Since receiving letters from the National President and Historian, I have never heard another word from Phi Mu. I had no idea there had been any notice of my donation written in the Aglaia. No copies were ever sent to me. I would love to read the article and send a copy to my aunt, who gave me the pin. Would it be possible for someone to look into this for me?

What's a nupe? :confused:

A member of Kappa Alpha Psi.

Kiki's mom, I sent you a pm.

So my daughter dated this guy who lies about pretty much everything. Anyway, he said he pledged Sigma Chi last semester at an out-of-state university which I later discovered (from several very reliable sources) he never even attended. He went to a community college. He's back in-state this semester. The scary thing is he wears a Sigma Chi rush shirt from this university. Don't know where the heck he got it. He creeps me out. :eek:

I've noticed from reading this thread that Sigma Chi has a lot of wannabes!

This is really nice to hear and I am sure very appreciated by the Sisters of Phi Mu.

I would guess, that you would always be welcome at the Phi Mu IHQ!:)

OLD HISTORY is important to each of our GLO's!

Ohhhh. Thanks for clearing that up :).

yeah I have no idea why anybody would want to impersonate a greek unless they were trying to get into a party or wanted to be "cool".....which is funny because it's sooooo not cool to be greek in California....maybe in the South though.

As for Sigma Nu, we have a few ways to figure out frauds....database, grip, call and answers, cards, etc

Not gonna lie, they're just that awesome.

I don't know if it's really California or just all the people I've been around but I think I'm the only guy from my high school class (2001) that pledged and it just seems like greeks have horribly negative stereotypes. I talk to Southerners and they act like greek is THE thing to be whereas here it's like "oh...you're a snobby date rapist...great".

Pink Flamingo, thank you very much for sending me a copy of the article about my great-great-great aunt's Philomathean badge written in the Phi Mu Aglaia magazine. I was surprised and delighted to read the full page article about the history of the badge and its importance to Phi Mu. Thank you for locating the issue and sending me a copy. I truely appreciate your time and will treasure the article. Once again, thank you!

snobby? nahhh.



haha. just kidding :o

I'm not trying to be a jerk, and I'm entirely sincere, so please no one flip out on me.

I admit I haven't been around to see the havoc that they could create, but why is perping such a big deal in terms of GreekChat?

I think someone would have to be a freak to perp, and retroactively realizing that you've been in correspondence with a freak would/is disconcerting, to say the least.

But since we can all probably think of legit members of groups that are problematic for almost every group, Alpha Gamma Delta excepted of course ;), what protection does officially checking them out for GreekChat provide?

I wouldn't think there'd be a whole lot of ritual information being discussed even in PM.

And really, if you think about it, most of the ways that we "verify" membership could in themselves be easily "perped" right. If you knew the full name, chapter, and year of initiation of any real member, couldn't anyone beat the perp detecting GreekChat system?

I guess what I'm saying is wouldn't it make more sense to assume almost everyone wasn't legit until proven in real life in some way.

It's all good, and you're not a freak. There are some odd-balls that do "strange" things.

To the person above with the Sigmache boy. I know of people that rush at a "good school", but then end up a "lesser-then-school". They will wear their "good school" fraternity shirt to show they were rushed by a good fraternity.

Is that what your girls boyfriend did? If so, it's not that big a deal... Pretty pathetic yes, but not that HUGE a deal.

it's just hilarious to watch people make fools of themselves. just sit back, relax, and watch the self-destruction unfold.....

Don't forget...." drunken snobby date rapist"

To tell you the truth the "secret handshake" is not that secret. I have roomed with a few Greeks in other frats and in they were drunk they showed me their handshake because they said that theirs was harder. Not that I would ever use it but I remember them.

haha I've had guys from different fraternities tell me all sorts of things about their fraternity...handshakes, "education', etc...

oh its arizona too. just the other day i was walking back to my apt wearing my DU hat and i passed by this bar (just walking by it mind you) and i greeted the bouncers with a "evening fellas." i was just being polite and i immediately got a sh** storm from these two guys. they mocked me for wearing letters and told me to go date rape some girls. unbelievable. you try to be nice to people...

why would someone fake being in a GLO that they aren't? Do people have no lives?

word to the wise, NEVER EVER fake the funk about being a Freemason, if you get your a$$ beat for lying, most of the time cops won't even help you.

To reap the benefits and prestige without actually putting in any work. It's very funny to catch someone in the act though.

Recent Exchange:

Woman: Oh you're in a fraternity? I'm in one too!
Me: *hmm* Which one?
Woman: Delta!
Me: Delta what?
Woman: You know..Delta.. *poor attempt at the call* .. I pledged at (insert area with no campus or city-wide chapters)
Me: That's strange. They don't have a chapter there.
Woman: Umm...*quickly walks away*
Me: *laughing inside*

During college I went on a few dates with this guy I knew from a student organization. Right off the bat he told me how he had been in Kappa Alpha Order and how he knew all the guys and blah blah blah. I'm pretty sure he said this because he knew I was friends with quite a few of them. Anyway, he would always bring it up, but then he mentioned that he had quit/deactivated, what have you. Now, I only went on a few dates, and I thought it was sort of weird, so I mentioned it to my Diamond/Big sister in ADPi who was dating a KA. She heard the name and goes, oh "Bob"? Oh no, he was never a KA - he was kicked out during pledging. Her boyfriend confirmed the story, and I was absolutely mortified. It didn't matter to me that he wasn't in KA, it was the fact that he lied about being in KA ... how lame is that?

Yeah it was the same way at my high school in southwest missouri, That's why i've waited till this spring to rush... i hated fraternities at first because i only knew what i was told about them but it didn't take long for me to change my mind, Its those danged stereotypes... i knew alot of people at my high school and so far i'm fairly sure i'm the only to even rush... and p.s. since i'm not in a frat YET, does that make me a perp? cuz if so i wouldnt mind checking out...

LOL, no that just makes you a potential rushee. And that's a good thing. You'd only be a perp if you came on pretending to already be Mr. XYZ-big-fraternity-man-on-campus.

one of my favorites was when i was pledging and my job was the work door check at our parties to check IDs and who they know in the house. Generally at our events you either need to be greek to get in or be a girl, or have a friend in the house. So i get one guy who walks up cocky, obviously the leader of the laughing drunk freshman and acts as the negotiator.
Me-ID's and who do you know in the house?
Kid-I know brad
Me-No one named brad lives here
Kid-Dude are you joking me? (looks back at his friends and laughs) Listen buddy I'm a pledge at this house and my friends are gonna be pissed when they find out you gave me ****.
Me-I'm the pledge class vice president....get the **** out.


It's pretty fun calling out posers because we keep a list of every fraternity and sorority's officers if we feel like quizing people claiming to be greek to let them in.

That's hilarious! :D

ummm...i could be wrong, so don't kill me...but i've always heard that it means "never underestimate a pu**y eater". is there some other more secret meaning perhaps?

Are you kidding or are you serious?

Ummm... Wow!?

bwhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!