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Scandia 05-29-2007 06:24 PM

I really disliked this movie. The only part that was remotely good was the wedding scene- and that's because the choreography was good and because it made me laugh.

Otherwise, the movie is a big waste of time and money.

AznSAE 05-30-2007 10:56 AM

i keep hearing bad reviews about this one. i may just wait till it comes out at the dollar movie on 50 cent tuesdays.

neosoul 05-30-2007 01:55 PM

I'd give it a solid C+

ZTABullwinkle 05-31-2007 10:35 PM

I asked a little bit ago. Where is the website with the information that may help me figure out some background stories? I haven't been able to find it. :(

BuckeyeTriDelta 05-31-2007 10:46 PM

I actually liked this movie. I was worried with it being so long that I would get bored but surprisingly I was not bored.

Thetagirl218 06-02-2007 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrel10 (Post 1454793)
Ok, so I just saw it, and it was okay. I liked the (very) end; after the credits...hated it before that.

I agree! During the entire credits I was sitting there thinking "I hate this movie because the ending sucks!!!!" The end of the credits helped to fix this!!! However, I still didn't like the ending, and I reached the conculsion that nothing will ever be as good as the 1st one (One of my all time fav movies!) Though I do have to say, I absoutly loved the marriage scene, classic pirates, though I would have liked it better if Jack had done the wedding, it would have been funnier that way. Oh and did anyone notice which sword it was that killed certain people?

kddani 06-02-2007 08:06 AM

Waaayyyy too long. And I f*&(ing hate that there were 20 minutes of previous and then 10 minutes of other movie theatre commercials and crap. We went to the 9:30, and didn't get out until 12:30. There were portions where I was almost falling asleep because I was so tired. It was fun to watch, but there wasn't enough of a plot to pull me in and hold my attention. I didn't get that "sucked in" feeling

Drolefille 06-02-2007 10:12 AM

Eh, I LOVE long movies as long as they're done well, just saw this last night and it totally redeemed (Run) DMC.

I love previews too, but commercials in movie theaters can die. Of course, I watched it at our local downtown theater and got to watch a cartoon in front of it too :)

ASUADPi 06-02-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1459392)
I agree! During the entire credits I was sitting there thinking "I hate this movie because the ending sucks!!!!" The end of the credits helped to fix this!!! However, I still didn't like the ending, and I reached the conculsion that nothing will ever be as good as the 1st one (One of my all time fav movies!) Though I do have to say, I absoutly loved the marriage scene, classic pirates, though I would have liked it better if Jack had done the wedding, it would have been funnier that way. Oh and did anyone notice which sword it was that killed certain people?


The first time I saw the movie, it was an 8:00pm showing so I left when the credits started, but the second time my friend (who had also seen the movie previously) and I chatted during the credits and got to see the scene.

The ending was kind of odd, but at least from the Jack POV, there could be another movie. The resolution of Will & Elizabeth was pretty much stated.


Was the sword the one Norrington got from Will in CotBP? The irony of that would be that Will made it and Jones used it to kill people (and then what happened with Jones and Will at the end, trying not to give too much away :D)

Did anyone else notice that the two British Navy men, that were in all the movies, that always kind of argue with each other and Jack "slips by them" joined the pirates in the end? I thought that was classic. I was cracking up. :D

Drolefille 06-02-2007 10:24 AM

They left it really open while still resolving it. There's no way you can have Jack or anyone of the pirates settle down and open up a shop or something, so there always has to be the next great adventure even if we never get to see it filmed. And Will and Elizabeth have plenty of time for adventure too, but could also be omitted from any future movies.

I love what they did with Jack and his... alternative perceptions of himself (hope that's vague enough for those who haven't seen it)

Thetagirl218 06-02-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1459471)
Was the sword the one Norrington got from Will in CotBP? The irony of that would be that Will made it and Jones used it to kill people (and then what happened with Jones and Will at the end, trying not to give too much away :D

Yep, it was the same sword. I figured it would play a role when they gave it back to Norrington, and said something like "this is a great sword". Yea but I thought it was intresting that it killed its creator... :rolleyes:

ASUADPi 06-02-2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1459483)
Yep, it was the same sword. I figured it would play a role when they gave it back to Norrington, and said something like "this is a great sword". Yea but I thought it was intresting that it killed its creator... :rolleyes:

The sword definately had total irony in who it killed.




Can someone please still explain to me how someone who is dead can create a living, breathing, child? I just don't get it and it probably has to do with me watching waaaaayyyyy to much Buffy. LOL.

Drolefille 06-02-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1459484)
The sword definately had total irony in who it killed.




Can someone please still explain to me how someone who is dead can create a living, breathing, child? I just don't get it and it probably has to do with me watching waaaaayyyyy to much Buffy. LOL.

See, he's not really dead. He's perhaps, undead, but definately not dead. While the Flying Dutchman is crewed by the dead, those afraid of passing on, their captain isn't actually dead himself. Davy Jones cut out his heart while quite alive (it's magic!) and one can assume the new owner of the FD wasn't quite dead yet (he got better!) when he picked up the job.

AKA_Monet 06-03-2007 02:37 AM

Just saw #3. I like the flick. I will probably get the bootleg version and maybe the DVD. But, one should watch the other previous flicks before seeing the 3rd... Or whatever.

"Does he just makes it up as he goes along..."

DSTRen13 06-03-2007 09:44 AM

Okay, so definitely didn't stay past the credits ... can someone please PM me what happened in the bonus scene? Please?

CutiePie2000 06-03-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1459843)
Okay, so definitely didn't stay past the credits ... can someone please PM me what happened in the bonus scene? Please?

I didn't stay either.

ASUADPi 06-03-2007 11:20 AM

Bonus scene (after spoiler space, just in case)

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The bonus scene took place 10 years later. A boy, about 9 is singing "yo ho, yo ho a pirates life for me" (I think it was that one or it was the song "hoist the colors" (via the beginning of the movie)). Then Elizabeth shows up behind the boy, so you know that that is her son. They are standing on a cliff looking out towards the ocean. Then you see the ocean and the flash of green, so you know Will is back. Then you see Will standing on top of the mast of the flying duchman (much like Jack did earlier in the movie on the Black Pearl) and the movie endsl.

ASUADPi 06-03-2007 11:21 AM

Did anyone else notice that the dog from DMC (that was made the king of the Pelagosi (was that the name?) tribe at the end of the movie) was following Jack's dad in AWE with the key? I was like "hey the dog made it away from the tribe". :D I just thought it was funny.

Drolefille 06-03-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1459862)
Did anyone else notice that the dog from DMC (that was made the king of the Pelagosi (was that the name?) tribe at the end of the movie) was following Jack's dad in AWE with the key? I was like "hey the dog made it away from the tribe". :D I just thought it was funny.

Even better was Captain Teague's response to the funny looks everyone gave the dog: "Sea turtles mate"

SapphireSphinx9 06-03-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1459860)
Bonus scene (after spoiler space, just in case)


I didn't stay for the credits either - thank you for posting that... Very interesting.

Over all, I wasn't too impressed with the movie, it was about an hour too long - but because I love PoTC I will admit that I will buy it and watch it over and over again! LOL

I'm thinking that I'll enjoy it more when I'm sitting comfy in my own living room, able to pause it/rewind it/etc.

CutiePie2000 06-03-2007 03:08 PM

I still need to see Shrek 3, so maybe I will try to time it and and ask the theatre staff if I can see the "end" of Pirates 3, to see the ending's bonus scene and then go to my proper theatre to watch Shrek 3. I think I have my movie stub as proof that I was just there to watch Pirates 3.

DSTRen13 06-03-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1459860)
Bonus scene (after spoiler space, just in case)

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The bonus scene took place 10 years later. A boy, about 9 is singing "yo ho, yo ho a pirates life for me" (I think it was that one or it was the song "hoist the colors" (via the beginning of the movie)). Then Elizabeth shows up behind the boy, so you know that that is her son. They are standing on a cliff looking out towards the ocean. Then you see the ocean and the flash of green, so you know Will is back. Then you see Will standing on top of the mast of the flying duchman (much like Jack did earlier in the movie on the Black Pearl) and the movie endsl.

Thanks for posting :)

BetteDavisEyes 06-03-2007 10:44 PM

I liked the movie & it definitely redeemed the 2nd one. What I didn't care for was the Will & Elizabeth ending b/c to me, there's no real resolution there. She basically sits around waiting every 10 years for his return. That didn't make sense to me.

Still, I loved seeing more Jack in this movie & I look forward to more Jack & Capt. Barbossa b/c I love him in the movies as well.

Drolefille 06-04-2007 12:44 AM

I prefer to assume that she's been raising her boy at sea for the past 10 years and only comes back to meet Will :D She is the Pirate King after all...

ASUADPi 06-04-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1460187)
I prefer to assume that she's been raising her boy at sea for the past 10 years and only comes back to meet Will :D She is the Pirate King after all...

That does make much more sense. A fan fiction online actually had Elizabeth go off with Jack and find the fountain of youth. LOL. But I can much more see Elizabeth staying on the sea's than staying on land.

Plus, if she stays at sea wouldn't she have a better chance of seeing Will or is it that he only comes back to the "locker" every 10 years?

BetteDavisEyes 06-04-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1460327)
Plus, if she stays at sea wouldn't she have a better chance of seeing Will or is it that he only comes back to the "locker" every 10 years?

I believe he only comes back every 10 years.

Drolefille 06-04-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1460327)
That does make much more sense. A fan fiction online actually had Elizabeth go off with Jack and find the fountain of youth. LOL. But I can much more see Elizabeth staying on the sea's than staying on land.

Plus, if she stays at sea wouldn't she have a better chance of seeing Will or is it that he only comes back to the "locker" every 10 years?

Yeah it goes both ways. If you want Elizabeth to be an adventurer, you can think of her as such. If you prefer the point of view that she did all of that pirate stuff so that she could be with Will, save Jack since she killed him, help Will help his father, etc. then you can see her living quite comfortably for once.

As for the second bit it's hard to say. He can only touch land every 10 years, however it's not clear that she could never be on board the Dutchman or he on another ship. Davy Jones wasn't doing his duty of ferrying the dead to the afterlife (which is not necessarily the Locker, that's more of a private hell Jones used to hang on to people's souls.) So perhaps if he's actually doing his job, Will can't really spend much time amongst the living at sea.

Still BLUTANG 06-04-2007 02:46 PM

i fell asleep during the movie. there was too much going on, and i didn't see pirates II. maybe that's why i was confused / disinterested.

imma watch 2 this week and then go back to see 3 again sometime later this summer.

BetteDavisEyes 06-04-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1460529)
He can only touch land every 10 years, however it's not clear that she could never be on board the Dutchman or he on another ship.

Will's father made a mention about how she can't go where they are going so he has to make the most of his 1 day on land every 10 years.

Drolefille 06-04-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1460628)
Will's father made a mention about how she can't go where they are going so he has to make the most of his 1 day on land every 10 years.

Yeah, and I think that goes into the fact that Will's actually doing the job, instead of dicking around scaring people like Davy Jones was.

SSS1365 06-04-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1460634)
Yeah, and I think that goes into the fact that Will's actually doing the job, instead of dicking around scaring people like Davy Jones was.

Is that why Davy Jones turned into a "monster?" I was very confused by the movie and probably missed a lot of details. I do remember Calypso telling somebody that "him was a man once." But I don't think I picked up on how he got the octopus face. Of course, I didn't even really understand the whole Calypso thing, so maybe I'm just completely clueless.

Drolefille 06-04-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SSS1365 (Post 1460741)
Is that why Davy Jones turned into a "monster?" I was very confused by the movie and probably missed a lot of details. I do remember Calypso telling somebody that "him was a man once." But I don't think I picked up on how he got the octopus face. Of course, I didn't even really understand the whole Calypso thing, so maybe I'm just completely clueless.

Yes, that's why he was all with the tentacles, as was everyone on board the ship. Will won't get all fishy and neither will the crew (I have to assume there are still sailors who are afraid to die who will crew his ship)

I think it was discussed when Jack was considering taking the job himself. He, or someone else, made some comment about not looking good with the tentacles.

dzfan 06-04-2007 05:20 PM

I LOVED this movie! I thought it was really well done. I did not want it to end -- I definitely want it see it again. Did yall stay around for the extra scene after the credits? if not, you should check it out -- i thought it was good.

Thetagirl218 06-04-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SSS1365 (Post 1460741)
Of course, I didn't even really understand the whole Calypso thing, so maybe I'm just completely clueless.

Um..yea...Was I the only other one that didn't understand the Calypso thing at all? They had to sing the song at the start of the movie to get her to come back even though she was alreay there? And then what good did she do after they released her? She caused a big thunderstorm? I didn't understand her part very much? Anyone care to enlighten me?

flirt5721 06-04-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1460798)
Um..yea...Was I the only other one that didn't understand the Calypso thing at all? They had to sing the song at the start of the movie to get her to come back even though she was alreay there? And then what good did she do after they released her? She caused a big thunderstorm? I didn't understand her part very much? Anyone care to enlighten me?

The thing that I understood was that they were singing the song about Calypso to get the Breveren(sp?) to get together.

Drolefille 06-04-2007 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1460798)
Um..yea...Was I the only other one that didn't understand the Calypso thing at all? They had to sing the song at the start of the movie to get her to come back even though she was alreay there? And then what good did she do after they released her? She caused a big thunderstorm? I didn't understand her part very much? Anyone care to enlighten me?

The song being song was a pirate song that called the Brethren (the pirates) together. Calypso doesn't actually have anything to do with the song itself.
The Brethren were called because of the terrible conditions that the pirates were suffering under the East India Trading Co.

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The King and his men stole the Queen from her bed
And bound her in her bones.
The seas be ours and by the powers
Where we will, we'll roam.

Yo ho, haul together, hoist the colours high
Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die!

Calypso was bound by the Nine Pirate Lords at their first meeting. Davy Jones was pissed that she ldid not wait for him (as being fickle is in her nature). The Pirate Lords agreed, likely because the sea is a harsh enough mistress without having to worry about a goddess being pissed off at you.
Barbossa wanted to relase Calypso, expecting her favor in return. However, that's not how the sea, nor a sea goddess, works. She was just damned pissed off, hence the maelstrom. (Also, I think that Barbossa just loves the sea, did you see the look on his face while steering the Pearl into the whirlpool? His third motivation would be recompense for Calypso/Tia Dalma's resurrecting him.)

Phew. Hope that helps. I think they left her storyline too open, but if you take into consideration that sailors both love and fear the sea you can understand the character they were creating for her.

ASUADPi 06-05-2007 09:26 AM

I didn't even understand the song sung at the beginning had anything to do with Calypso/Tia Dalma until I was listening to the soundtrack this weekend. :rolleyes: I feel kind of stupid. he he.

Drolefille 06-05-2007 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1461184)
I didn't even understand the song sung at the beginning had anything to do with Calypso/Tia Dalma until I was listening to the soundtrack this weekend. :rolleyes: I feel kind of stupid. he he.

Yeah, it's about her, but it doesn't call her or anything.

But from where the song is sung in the movie, it's hard to connect the dots. I was more focused on this exchange:
"They're singing" *I mentally laugh because I'm thinking he's really confused*
"Finally" *WTF*

Thetagirl218 06-06-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1461875)
Keep some of the crew cast and lose the Will/Elizabeth and East India Trading Company stuff, and just focus on pirates on a treasure hunt.

Yea, I honestly think that is what the last two lacked. You can watch the first one and third one and then realize that they are almost completely different movies and storylines. I wil always love the first one the best, and try to blot from my memory the ending in 3 concerning Elizabeth and Will...

summer_gphib 06-20-2007 12:56 AM

I just saw it and LOVED it. Hubby and I both teared up... :p

Here's hoping for a 4th one! :D


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