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DSTCHAOS 12-09-2006 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1368753)
Read my post about Saddam and that will answer that question:) . Seriously, I know we can't judge books by the cover, but when I saw the cover, it looked dumb to me. I liked the Skulls, that was good. I guess I don't really like commedies that much, plus I don't drink (never have except when I was pledging) so I don't see what's so fun about getting drunk.


Animal House is supposedly a comedic classic and has a cultish following. Not a particularly good movie but it embodies all the partying and stereotypical ways of college fraternities (binge drinking, toga parties--ya know, the stuff that ALL fraternities and fraternity men HAVE TO be about).

Not to be confused with a movie like The Skulls that isn't about partying and has a much more settled and meaningful plot.

jitterbug13 12-09-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1368784)
Classy.

I wonder why the USC greeks didn't want Omega Psi Phi moving in.


(I realize it was a joke. Just a very bad one. If it weren't a joke, it could be misconstrued as sexual harrassment.)


Considering I am a graduate from USC and FULLY SUPPORT the Omegas moving to Greek Village, this is a very bad joke. :mad: :mad:

But I do like Animal House. ;)

Texas Beta 12-09-2006 11:18 AM

They really join to dance?

Why don't they just call them selves a dancing club? Where in the 230 years since Phi Beta Kappa started, did we start making fraternities into dancing clubs? Am I just being completely ignorant and this is more usual then not? I mean if they're making a movie about it? Really?

Edit*** Are they at least spirited, like, dance at halftime shows? or they just jump around being goofy for the hell of it? - This movie looks horrible. Almost as bad as the "scary" movies that they've been coming out with weekly.

AlexMack 12-09-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1368799)
Animal House is supposedly a comedic classic and has a cultish following. Not a particularly good movie but it embodies all the partying and stereotypical ways of college fraternities (binge drinking, toga parties--ya know, the stuff that ALL fraternities and fraternity men HAVE TO be about).

Not to be confused with a movie like The Skulls that isn't about partying and has a much more settled and meaningful plot.

Animal House is amazing and you're unamerican if you haven't seen it and you're greek. Plus it's based on my school!

ufdale 12-09-2006 01:08 PM

What's so wrong about partying and togas? I think I would be upset if I graduated and hadn't been to a toga party!

DSTCHAOS 12-09-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Beta (Post 1368825)
Am I just being completely ignorant


Yes.

Elephant Walk 12-09-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Beta (Post 1368825)
They really join to dance?

Why don't they just call them selves a dancing club? Where in the 230 years since Phi Beta Kappa started, did we start making fraternities into dancing clubs? Am I just being completely ignorant and this is more usual then not? I mean if they're making a movie about it? Really?

Edit*** Are they at least spirited, like, dance at halftime shows? or they just jump around being goofy for the hell of it? - This movie looks horrible. Almost as bad as the "scary" movies that they've been coming out with weekly.

Agreed.

This is hardly the picture our founding fathers would have foreseen.
Very dissapointing.

starang21 12-09-2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Beta (Post 1368825)
Am I just being completely ignorant

incredibly

Elephant Walk 12-09-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1368893)
incredibly

Hardly. I believe you and DST are being ignorant.

macallan25 12-09-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1368893)
incredibly

How is he being ignorant? Should he be an expert on the practices of black fraternities?

DSTCHAOS 12-09-2006 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1368898)
Hardly. I believe you and DST are being ignorant.

So now we shall debate on who is being ignorant. Sounds boring.

DSTCHAOS 12-09-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1368902)
How is he being ignorant? Should he be an expert on the practices of black fraternities?

Maybe not but his post was dumb. If he didn't know about the topic, his post should've consisted of "what's this about" instead of whatever tangent he was on.

shinerbock 12-09-2006 06:36 PM

I think we should drop it. After all, we're talking about stepping. Not the game, not the game I go out there and play, we're talking about stepping. Stepping man, stepping.

DSTCHAOS 12-09-2006 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1368958)
I think we should drop it.


Good idea. This thread was never meant to be informative. It was intended to poke fun at something that most of the people posting have no idea about. I'm surprised that the moderators have kept it alive this long. There are much more interesting threads that have gotten shut down for less.

starang21 12-09-2006 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1368902)
How is he being ignorant? Should he be an expert on the practices of black fraternities?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ignorant

he lacks knowledge on the practices, purposes and histories of BGLO's. so using the dictionary definition of ignorant, yes he is ignorant.

starang21 12-09-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1368898)
Hardly. I believe you and DST are being ignorant.

the irony

shinerbock 12-09-2006 07:07 PM

Well, the person calling him ignorant is also one who says that insensitivity is included in that definition, if I recall correctly. We probably need to establish some cultural/racial dispute dictionary so people will be on the same page.

starang21 12-09-2006 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1368971)
Well, the person calling him ignorant is also one who says that insensitivity is included in that definition, if I recall correctly. We probably need to establish some cultural/racial dispute dictionary so people will be on the same page.

he called himself ignorant, if i recall.

Elephant Walk 12-09-2006 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1368957)
Maybe not but his post was dumb. If he didn't know about the topic, his post should've consisted of "what's this about" instead of whatever tangent he was on.

I believe the tangent he was on (unless I am mistaken) was that the fraternities portrayed in this movie are a bastardization of the original fraternity in every form. If one was to provide any defense of greek life, they would state this as well.

DSTCHAOS 12-09-2006 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1368971)
We probably need to establish some cultural/racial dispute dictionary so people will be on the same page.

Or you just need to stop using so much starch on your collar.

DSTCHAOS 12-09-2006 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1368980)
I believe the tangent he was on (unless I am mistaken) was that the fraternities portrayed in this movie are a bastardization of the original fraternity in every form. If one was to provide any defense of greek life, they would state this as well.

So is elephant walking in line with the original fraternity in every form?

ufdale 12-09-2006 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1368969)
he lacks knowledge on the practices, purposes and histories of BGLO's. so using the dictionary definition of ignorant, yes he is ignorant.

Is it ignorance if one is not informed? Is everyone not in a BGLO ignorant? I have seen Elephant Walk and others ask real questions in numerous threads that have gone unanswered.

ladygreek 12-09-2006 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1369038)
Is it ignorance if one is not informed?

Isn't that one of the definitions of ignorant? See the dictionary link above.

shinerbock 12-09-2006 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1369033)
Or you just need to stop using so much starch on your collar.

Don't be jealous simply because my shirts have collars.

ufdale 12-09-2006 10:36 PM

Then how can you throw it in a person's face that they are ignorant if they have tried and no one explains?

Elephant Walk 12-09-2006 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1369034)
So is elephant walking in line with the original fraternity in every form?

...Where does that come from? Why was this asked?

I've asked multiple times about different BGLO stuff and no one seems to answer. The only reason that many blacks are only a little ignorant is because white society pervades black society. Then black members try to portray whites as racist and ignorant purely because we don't know every facet of their minimally important (to our daily life) culture.

edit: Example of not being answered, see: "APhiA B-Day thread"

macallan25 12-09-2006 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1369034)
So is elephant walking in line with the original fraternity in every form?


What does his SN have anything to do with it?

....and some of you people need to get a clue. Many of us have asked questions about Black greek life that go completely ignored. Usually the response is something like "if you aren't in one you don't need to know." Ignorance take on quite a negative connotation. Even know they share the same definition.....I think there is a difference between being ignorant and unimformed. Ignorant makes you come across like an idiot.

jon1856 12-10-2006 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1368763)
You don't drink? What kind of a fraternity are you a member of?:confused:

Hummmm-You believe that all members of fraternities drink? All GLO's drink?:confused: :eek:
While I was active, we had at least two Brothers in the house that did not drink at all.

And I no longer do by choice.

shinerbock 12-10-2006 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1369101)
Hummmm-You believe that all members of fraternities drink? All GLO's drink?:confused: :eek:
While I was active, we had at least two Brothers in the house that did not drink at all.

And I no longer do by choice.

Only forced drinking huh? I know how that is.

PrettyBoy 12-10-2006 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1368784)
Classy.

I wonder why the USC greeks didn't want Omega Psi Phi moving in.


(I realize it was a joke. Just a very bad one. If it weren't a joke, it could be misconstrued as sexual harrassment.)

What happend with that? I didn't hear that one. I gotta hear this, why didn't they want the Ques moving in?

It was a joke, but she brought it on herself with her ignorance, plus I don't harrass anyone.

PrettyBoy 12-10-2006 06:13 AM

O.K. ladies and gents, lets just drop this thread. I knew where this was going as soon as I saw it. Let's just talk about the movie and agree that predominantly white GLOs and predominantly black GLOs are different so of course we are not going to agree with our differences. Stepping is lame to some if not all predominantly white greek organizations, and Toga parties, tug of war, bing drinking ect. is lame to predominantly black greek organizations, so lets either drop this thread or agree to disagree. Is everyone cool with that? Seriously, because I can already see that race and that kind of crap is going to start coming up. We're all college educated people, we can agree to disagree. C'mon.

jon1856 12-10-2006 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1369114)
Only forced drinking huh? I know how that is.

Shiner'
I have been around you long enought to know that you are joking.:) :D ;)

DSTCHAOS 12-10-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1369038)
Is it ignorance if one is not informed? Is everyone not in a BGLO ignorant? I have seen Elephant Walk and others ask real questions in numerous threads that have gone unanswered.

Yes.

Yes--if you unaware of practices that are specific to BGLOs you are ignorant of them. That doesn't mean you HAVE to be aware of them. But if you are going to speak on something in a jestful or serious way, try to be informed or shut the hell up.

"Real questions" is based on perception. If they care so much, they can search the GC archives just like other people do when they have reoccuring questions.

DSTCHAOS 12-10-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Beta (Post 1369141)
I see I have spurred a lot of debate.

Not really. Nothing new under the sun.

DSTCHAOS 12-10-2006 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1367255)

For those of you, like PrettyBoy who want to drop this thread and just talk about the movie or whatever, this is my post from page 1

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1367255)
Good idea. This thread was never meant to be informative. It was intended to poke fun at something that most of the people posting have no idea about. I'm surprised that the moderators have kept it alive this long. There are much more interesting threads that have gotten shut down for less.

Here's my post on page 4 when shinerbock suggested on dropping it.

So are folks gonna drop it or not?

DSTCHAOS 12-10-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1369045)
...Where does that come from? Why was this asked?


When people say certain practices contrast the original purpose of fraternities, I wonder where they get their notion of "original purpose" from.

Do you know what the fraternity practice of elephant walking is? If you do know what it is, is that in line with the original purpose of fraternities?

starang21 12-10-2006 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1369038)
Is it ignorance if one is not informed? Is everyone not in a BGLO ignorant? I have seen Elephant Walk and others ask real questions in numerous threads that have gone unanswered.

umm.....yes. look at the definition that i posted.

ufdale 12-10-2006 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1369229)
umm.....yes. look at the definition that i posted.

Wow! This same question was already asked and responded to about 10 posts back. Don't point fingers at people and call them ignorant when you are unwilling to answer questions that they may have. I am not asking questions about ritual (which with I can understand secrecy). We merely ask for answers which all members of BGLOs seem to know and understand.
BTW I did check out your link. Ignorant is being “unaware because of a lack of relevant information or knowledge.”
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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1369061)
Many of us have asked questions about Black greek life that go completely ignored. Usually the response is something like "if you aren't in one you don't need to know." Ignorance takes on quite a negative connotation. Even know they share the same definition.....I think there is a difference between being ignorant and unimformed. Ignorant makes you come across like an idiot.

If you have a question about NPC or IFC life, we would gladly answer because we are trying to raise awareness and acceptance of our organizations (instead of spreading misinformation and unacceptance). I believe numerous people on here have tried to make/ wanted this thread to be about what is stepping. No answers were given! What a shock. I’m a junior. The entire Divine 9 are on my campus, but it wasn’t until recently (when I went to a stepshow to gain spirit points) that I had any clue that you all step and that it’s a huge competition for NPHC and Multicultural greeks. Therefore is is extremely likely that someone could have no clue as to what a step show is.

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If he didn't know about the topic, his post should've consisted of "what's this about" instead of whatever tangent he was on.
Maybe this was the tangent that most of us were on.
I'm done posting here, as this thread is dead.

starang21 12-10-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ufdale (Post 1369234)
Wow! This same question was already asked and responded to about 10 posts back. Don't point fingers at people and call them ignorant when you are unwilling to answer questions that they may have. I am not asking questions about ritual (which with I can understand secrecy). We merely ask for answers which all members of BGLOs seem to know and understand.
BTW I did check out your link. Ignorant is being “unaware because of a lack of relevant information or knowledge.”

good job, now you know the answer yourself. each one....teach one.

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Originally Posted by starang21
he lacks knowledge on the practices, purposes and histories of BGLO's.

should i answer a question as stupid as

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Originally Posted by Texas Beta
Where in the 230 years since Phi Beta Kappa started, did we start making fraternities into dancing clubs? .

i think i'll pass on that.


LMAO @ spirit points

macallan25 12-10-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1369249)
good job, now you know the answer yourself. each one....teach one.



should i answer a question as stupid as



i think i'll pass on that.


LMAO @ spirit points


How is it a stupid question? I don't know anything about black fraternities other than that they take jumping around on stage doing choreographed dances very seriously. I'm quite sure many people share the same view.


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