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KSig RC 11-27-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1362734)
Btw, I get what "Mandingo" is supposed to mean, but I've never ever heard this term before.

Get out more - you've really never heard this term?

http://www.impawards.com/1975/posters/mandingo.jpg

Drolefille 11-27-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1362764)
Get out more - you've really never heard this term?

http://www.impawards.com/1975/posters/mandingo.jpg

Yes, seriously. And your witty image doesn't accept hotlinking.

Like I said, I got what it meant and I've heard other terms meaning the same thing.

DSTKellie 11-27-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1362734)
As much as I rolled my eyes at the original poster's comment, I thought that AKA_Monet's comment was just as bad.

As for why:
a) the implication that this is some fixation that white girls have
b) the implication that the OP just wanted to act on said fixation
c) the implication that white girls liking black guys is a fetish
d) the implication that only black women - "real and true sistahs" should date black men

Btw, I get what "Mandingo" is supposed to mean, but I've never ever heard this term before.

However misguided, this isn't exactly an uncommon question. It shouldn't be treated as a sign of an unhealthy fixation.

Hmm point taken but I think she was being facetious....but i could be wrong.

Drolefille 11-27-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTKellie (Post 1362776)
Hmm point taken but I think she was being facetious....but i could be wrong.

Very possibly, but what was almost certainly an honest question received a reply that insulted not only the OP but also by implication interracial relationships and white women in general.

DSTKellie 11-27-2006 02:02 PM

Well she may have had an honest question but it seemed very silly and ignorant to me which is why people responded the way that they did. I was not offended by the question but I just thought it was silly.

Drolefille 11-27-2006 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTKellie (Post 1362787)
Well she may have had an honest question but it seemed very silly and ignorant to me which is why people responded the way that they did. I was not offended by the question but I just thought it was silly.

I agree with that assessment, like I said earlier, I was rolling my eyes at the OP too.

AKA_Monet 11-27-2006 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1362734)
As much as I rolled my eyes at the original poster's comment, I thought that AKA_Monet's comment was just as bad.

As for why:
a) the implication that this is some fixation that white girls have
b) the implication that the OP just wanted to act on said fixation
c) the implication that white girls liking black guys is a fetish
d) the implication that only black women - "real and true sistahs" should date black men

You tell me how it is different with just a change in wording with what homegirl stated to "killing" or the "murdering" of African American men?

AKA_Monet 11-27-2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1362608)
I don't see how this is offensive! I asked a simple question. Ya know, it's not like I'm going to sleep with a black guy, I just wanted to know if the myth was true!! I find some back men attractive and I don't see anything wrong with wanting to meet men from other races.

I'm new to this site and I've seen really sexual and offensive postings from the same people that find this thread offensive. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

I's done seent it AWL!!! You cain't be dat stoopid?

Drolefille 11-27-2006 03:42 PM

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You tell me how it is different with just a change in wording with what homegirl stated to "killing" or the "murdering" of African American men?
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Seriously, um, are you saying that her original post should have been something like "EVER KILLED A BLACK MAN?" Because that doesn't make sense. You may want to clarify your comment if you'd actually like a reply...

Sistermadly 11-27-2006 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1362296)
I dunno, I just have an aversion to reducing African American men into body parts to be sold off like slaves at an auction...

That makes two of us, then. I completely understood your response to the question, and why you took offense to it in the first place. I took offense to it for the exact same reason.

If people know nothing, or learn nothing else from this thread, let them learn this: for hundreds of years, innocent black men were murdered because of this hypersexualized myth and white male fears of it. So while it might seem cute or innocent to some folk, for some of us, it becomes difficult to hear a question like the OPs and take it lightly.

Black men are not their penises, and white girls are not their fake breasts. It's just that simple. ;)

Sistermadly 11-27-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill1228 (Post 1361908)
Where I used to work, someone WHO CAME TO DROP OFF THEIR KID asked me that (like I would know the answer). My reply to him:
"dunno, why don't you ask your wife!" :D

See, I would've said "If you're so hot to find out, why don't you drop to your knees in front of the first black guy you see, and see how far you get with that."

I mean, any man who is so interested in another man's sexual prowess must want to hit the skins. I'm just sayin'.

Sistermadly 11-27-2006 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1362734)
However misguided, this isn't exactly an uncommon question. It shouldn't be treated as a sign of an unhealthy fixation.

Anytime you reduce 50% of an entire race to their (alleged) sexual prowess, it's an unhealthy fixation. It's objectification. It's reducing them to their body parts, and nothing else.

This is especially touchy for (some, I'm not going to say all) black folks, because these same body parts that (some) white girls get so "unhealthily fixated" on were the same body parts that were/are routinely cut off when black men were/are lynched for supposed "transgressions" with white women.

Maybe it's on us, but when you've got history like that in your back pocket, it's hard to look at this "uncommon question" in a favorable light. She didn't come in here and say "I'm interested in dating a black guy I know, but I don't know how to approach him - can anyone share their experiences", she came in here asking if brothers are swinging their almighty clubs and if they really got it like that. There's a huge difference, and that difference is what some of us are objecting to.

Capice?

DSTCHAOS 11-27-2006 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1361870)
I'm new to this site, so I know this sounds crazy, but I'm curious. Some of my sorority and I went to a step show for the 1st time, and some of the sexual things the fraternities were doing made me wonder if black guys are really great in bed like the myth says. I've only dated white guys, so I'm really curious. Has anyone been with a black guy and other races also? Is there a difference? I mean the whole thing about them being larger.

Yes they are better in bed and have bigger penises. This is because they were created from a mixture of mule and monkey. Mules are mindless but strong once you get them motivated and monkeys like to hump each other. That's also why they were used to toil the fields and breed slaves.

Other men can't compare because they are human whereas black men clearly are not.

AKA_Monet 11-27-2006 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363045)
Yes they are better in bed and have bigger penises. This is because they were created from a mixture of mule and monkey. Mules are mindless but strong once you get them motivated and monkeys like to hump each other. That's also why they were used to toil the fields and breed slaves.

Other men can't compare because they are human whereas black men clearly are not.

You know you are wrong for that... ;) :rolleyes: :o

DSTKellie 11-27-2006 09:05 PM

DSTchaos and AKA_monet are my two favorite people on Greekchat!:p ;)

DSTCHAOS 11-27-2006 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sistermadly (Post 1363038)
Anytime you reduce 50% of an entire race to their (alleged) sexual prowess, it's an unhealthy fixation. It's objectification. It's reducing them to their body parts, and nothing else.

This is especially touchy for (some, I'm not going to say all) black folks, because these same body parts that (some) white girls get so "unhealthily fixated" on were the same body parts that were/are routinely cut off when black men were/are lynched for supposed "transgressions" with white women.

Maybe it's on us, but when you've got history like that in your back pocket, it's hard to look at this "uncommon question" in a favorable light. She didn't come in here and say "I'm interested in dating a black guy I know, but I don't know how to approach him - can anyone share their experiences", she came in here asking if brothers are swinging their almighty clubs and if they really got it like that. There's a huge difference, and that difference is what some of us are objecting to.

Capice?

It's objectification that has been used as a foundation to oppress a people. Our features were clowned but admired at the same time. This is why white women have historically fantasized about being "taken" by a black man and whites have had lip injections. White women historically used black men as a weapon to piss off white men ("he winked at me") and white men preserved white women's purity by taking advantage of black women's sexuality.

People aren't inquisitive about black people's intellect and overall culture. They want to know about black people's sexuality and whether we can dance to hip hop.

This is why I am thrilled when I read about HBCUs and BGLOs focusing on scholarship and service. Not to prove a point to whites and other nonblacks, just to remind ourselves that we do way more than dance a jig and have sex.

PiKA2001 11-27-2006 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1361870)
I'm new to this site, so I know this sounds crazy, but I'm curious. Some of my sorority and I went to a step show for the 1st time, and some of the sexual things the fraternities were doing made me wonder if black guys are really great in bed like the myth says. I've only dated white guys, so I'm really curious. Has anyone been with a black guy and other races also? Is there a difference? I mean the whole thing about them being larger.



Have you ever heard of Alfred Kinsey? You should maybe read some of his work, it will answer all of your questions. On a related note, I've heard that redheads are wild in bed.

shinerbock 11-27-2006 09:19 PM

I heard black guys are better at basketball.

AKA_Monet 11-27-2006 09:25 PM

You guys have now motivated me... ;)

Wassup with y'alls skillz then?

DSTCHAOS 11-27-2006 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1362053)
AKA, I have no thoughts on the subject. I have no clue how black guys are in bed. In fact, I'm not even sure black people sleep. Ignorance, I suppose.

LOL.

I think some posters assume you and macallan are bigots but I don't think either of you are.

DSTCHAOS 11-27-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1363057)
I heard black guys are better at basketball.

Just like white guys are better at hockey.

(:D Of course, something being predominantly black or white doesn't mean that either group does it better. It's usually just about training and recruitment opportunities. For instance, the NBA was VERY WHITE for a long time.)

DSTCHAOS 11-27-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1363063)
You guys have now motivated me... ;)

Wassup with y'alls skillz then?

I had never read that thread before.

Did you change the thread or something. I'm confused.

KSig RC 11-27-2006 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363067)
(:D Of course, something being predominantly black or white doesn't mean that either group does it better. It's usually just about training and recruitment opportunities. For instance, the NBA was VERY WHITE for a long time.)

Wait, you mean to tell me that the entirety of black society didn't magically become better at the sport of basketball between 1950 and 1995?

BOOM HEADSPLODES

Occam's Razor is alive and well . . . for the 5% of us that use our freaking brains.

PrettyBoy 11-28-2006 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363045)
Yes they are better in bed and have bigger penises. This is because they were created from a mixture of mule and monkey. Mules are mindless but strong once you get them motivated and monkeys like to hump each other. That's also why they were used to toil the fields and breed slaves.

Other men can't compare because they are human whereas black men clearly are not.

What? You've got to be joking!:eek:

PrettyBoy 11-28-2006 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sistermadly (Post 1363033)
That makes two of us, then. I completely understood your response to the question, and why you took offense to it in the first place. I took offense to it for the exact same reason.

If people know nothing, or learn nothing else from this thread, let them learn this: for hundreds of years, innocent black men were murdered because of this hypersexualized myth and white male fears of it. So while it might seem cute or innocent to some folk, for some of us, it becomes difficult to hear a question like the OPs and take it lightly.

Black men are not their penises, and white girls are not their fake breasts. It's just that simple. ;)

LOL. About what you said about murdering black men based on part of his male anatomy, I've always wondered after a black man was lynched in the South, why was his penis cut off too. Hmmmmm, Lets think about this one.;)

PrettyBoy 11-28-2006 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1363057)
I heard black guys are better at basketball.

I hate basketball. I prefer NASCAR myself :D . Jeff Gordon is the man.:p

shinerbock 11-28-2006 02:08 AM

Jeff Gordon, what a bitch.

PrettyBoy 11-28-2006 02:11 AM

This is crazy, but I was watching A&E and they were talking about King Kong, and they were saying that at the time the movie came out (1933), it was all psychological. It was bascially about an ape that was obsessed with a blond haired blue eyed white woman. They made the ape big because of the black male penis. The white woman ended up falling in love with the ape. I was laughing about it at 1st but after watching it, I started to see the psychology behind it. Well remember King Kong got shot up by white guys in WW2 planes, and then he died. Same thing that happend to black men whistling at a white woman back in the day. They got killed. This may not make any sense but it was on T.V. I didn't make this up. I still think it's funny though. LOL.

PrettyBoy 11-28-2006 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1363207)
Jeff Gordon, what a bitch.

What?:p shinerbock I can't let you talk about a 4 time champ like that. He's the man. What's up with that? LOL. Are you a NASCAR fan?

SOPi_Jawbreaker 11-28-2006 09:27 AM

Ok, I know I'm a little late to the thread, but I feel like maybe I can explain why the question was offensive. I find it unbelievable that so many female posters couldn't understand why someone could find the question offensive. I think that it may be the objectification of a man that some can't wrap their heads around...like how people can't wrap their heads around the idea of a man being sexually harrassed or raped by a woman ("Oh, he's a man, he probably enjoyed it. Oh, he should just man up and stop whining and complaining"). But objectification based on race is not that different from objectification based on gender. As women, it should be offensive to see anyone (man or woman, black or white) reduced to just the sum of their sex organs.

Since I think a lot of people are having issues understanding the objectification of men, let me explain it from a female perspective. Black men and Asian women are opposites sides of the same coin. Both have the stereotype of being hypersexualized. And people without first hand knowledge probably don't understand what the big deal it. They think we should be flattered that someone finds us attractive based on our race. And it's like "Gee, who wouldn't be flattered that some guy has lumped me and every other Asian female in the world together and thinks that we're all a bunch of submissive, porcelein-skinned sex dolls?"

By definition, a fetish is an OBJECT that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. Now, that's fine and dandy when the object of your fetish is a shoe or a whip or an enema or an adult diaper or some other freaky stuff. But when you have a fetish about a race of people, suddenly we're talking about human beings here. When you fetishize a race of people, you're saying that they're objects...that one black man is interchangable for another...that one Asian girl is interchangable for another...that you're not into that person because of their charm, wit, personality, kindness, compassion, generosity, etc. It's to the point where I'm wary and suspicious of every Caucasian guy that approaches me or shows interest in me (I have encountered African-American and Latino guys with "yellow fever" but the vast majority of the time, it's Caucasian guys). At the back of my mind is always the question of is he interested because he thinks I'm cute, funny, sweet, cool, etc. or is he interested because he wants to "experience" a yellow girl and any yellow girl will do?

I know that some people may think that I'm over-reacting but until you've experienced this sort of thing on a persistent basis, I don't think you can really understand it. This whole idea of racial fetishism and eroticism really pisses me off, both as a minority and as a female. I hope I was able to shed more light on the topic. I wanted to go more in depth, but I'm going to be late for work....maybe later if the thread isn't shut down.

AlexMack 11-28-2006 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363045)
Yes they are better in bed and have bigger penises. This is because they were created from a mixture of mule and monkey. Mules are mindless but strong once you get them motivated and monkeys like to hump each other. That's also why they were used to toil the fields and breed slaves.

Other men can't compare because they are human whereas black men clearly are not.

Hahaha DSTChaos, I love you for this! By the way, I heard ginger kids are evil freaks, confirm/deny?

shinerbock 11-28-2006 11:01 AM

Jeff Gordon is everything bad about NASCAR. He whines, cries and yells at his own team. Like everyone else at Hendrix, he wouldnt win anything without his team.

tunatartare 11-28-2006 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1363210)
This is crazy, but I was watching A&E and they were talking about King Kong, and they were saying that at the time the movie came out (1933), it was all psychological. It was bascially about an ape that was obsessed with a blond haired blue eyed white woman. They made the ape big because of the black male penis. The white woman ended up falling in love with the ape. I was laughing about it at 1st but after watching it, I started to see the psychology behind it. Well remember King Kong got shot up by white guys in WW2 planes, and then he died. Same thing that happend to black men whistling at a white woman back in the day. They got killed. This may not make any sense but it was on T.V. I didn't make this up. I still think it's funny though. LOL.

A book I'm reading now talked about the same thing, actually.

DSTCHAOS 11-28-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1363126)
Wait, you mean to tell me that the entirety of black society didn't magically become better at the sport of basketball between 1950 and 1995?

BOOM HEADSPLODES

Occam's Razor is alive and well . . . for the 5% of us that use our freaking brains.

You know they were putting growth hormones in Church's Chicken for a while, so anything's possible. :eek: That also explains why basketball shorts went from Daisy Duke to saggy baggy.

DSTCHAOS 11-28-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1363210)
I still think it's funny though. LOL.


Is that nervous laughter over the audacity or did you really piss in your boots over it?

DSTCHAOS 11-28-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1363296)
Hahaha DSTChaos, I love you for this! By the way, I heard ginger kids are evil freaks, confirm/deny?

I confirm this and advise you to stop objectifying ginger kids while your soul is still redeemable.

DSTCHAOS 11-28-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1363196)
What? You've got to be joking!:eek:

Pardon me, someone ask the site administrator for a mule-monkey to human translator for this guy's posts.

AKA_Monet 11-28-2006 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363385)
Pardon me, someone ask the site administrator for a mule-monkey to human translator for this guy's posts.

I find all your posts offensive... ;) And very stinky... :D

DSTCHAOS 11-28-2006 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1363585)
I find all your posts offensive... ;) And very stinky... :D

Well eversince I can remember I've been poppin my collar-collar-collar...eversince I can remember I've been workin' these mule-monkeys and they better put my money in my hand-in my hand.

PrettyBoy 11-29-2006 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363385)
Pardon me, someone ask the site administrator for a mule-monkey to human translator for this guy's posts.

Oh lawd!:rolleyes:


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