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Drolefille 10-27-2006 01:23 PM

So he should take his meds when speaking except when he's supporting a bill when she shouldn't take them because it gives a sympathetic picture and WAAAAAAAH it's not fair. But when he's speaking he needs to take them because that's how he always is so not taking them presents a sympathetic picture... WAAAAAAAAH.

I'm not saying that his choices aren't motivated by the goal he's trying to acheive but you can't have it both ways.

AlexMack 10-27-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1347063)
So he should take his meds when speaking except when he's supporting a bill when she shouldn't take them because it gives a sympathetic picture and WAAAAAAAH it's not fair. But when he's speaking he needs to take them because that's how he always is so not taking them presents a sympathetic picture... WAAAAAAAAH.

I'm not saying that his choices aren't motivated by the goal he's trying to acheive but you can't have it both ways.

People should see the harsh reality that Parkinson's is. It's not a false picture to say 'this is my condition, un-medicated.' The meds have on-off periods anyway, they work for awhile and then they quit. If it was me, I'd want Congress to see exactly how much Parkinson's ravages the body, completely unhindered.
For the ad, he was endorsing McCaskill and stem cell research. There was no reason to go 'look at me and what Parkinson's does isn't it horrible oh god!' That ad was more, stem cell research is something I believe in, as you all know I have Parkinson's.
I think there's a difference.

ann.coulter2 10-27-2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1346762)
1. Stem cell research should be federally funded

An assumption not a fact

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1346762)
4. Limbaugh ... a blundering idiotic drug addict, ... and a background in sportscasting.

Further proof you are a Jon Stewart-educated lib. It's unlikely "a blundering idiotic drug addict, ... and a background in sportscasting" could have a radio audience of 20 mil weekly, last 18+ years. To correct your error, he worked for the KC baseball club, but not as a broadcaster.

And do you remember when Robin Williams was on the Tonight Show making jokes about Rush's drug problems? A week later, Robin Williams enters alcohol rehab, and asks for privacy. Typical lib.

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1346762)
As sad as the thought of Hilary Clinton running for president...

Bring her on, so the Clinton record can be exposed, defeated, and buried.

AlphaFrog 10-27-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2 (Post 1347136)
It's unlikely "a blundering idiotic drug addict, ... and a background in sportscasting" could have a radio audience of 20 mil weekly, last 18+ years.

So how do you account for Howard Stern, then (minus the background in sportcasting)???

AlexMack 10-27-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2 (Post 1347136)
An assumption not a fact



Further proof you are a Jon Stewart-educated lib. It's unlikely "a blundering idiotic drug addict, ... and a background in sportscasting" could have a radio audience of 20 mil weekly, last 18+ years. To correct your error, he worked for the KC baseball club, but not as a broadcaster.

And do you remember when Robin Williams was on the Tonight Show making jokes about Rush's drug problems? A week later, Robin Williams enters alcohol rehab, and asks for privacy. Typical lib.



Bring her on, so the Clinton record can be exposed, defeated, and buried.

Thanks, but I'm not a lib at all. In fact, I can't vote. And this is further proof that you're a gimmick. Do you remember when Rush went on and on about how drug addicts should be locked up? Well I do.
Stem cell research should be federally funded is not an assumption, it's an opinion.
You're a piss poor gimmick you know that?

Glitter650 10-27-2006 03:07 PM

You know... as far as "using" Fox for "sympathy" I see it no differently than the police putting the distraught mother of the missing child begging for their kid's safe return on TV.
You want to show how much this event (in this case disease) can hurt people, and then tell them what can be done to help it. I think *Most* people know that of course the media is going to play on our emotions. It's nothing new and nothing others haven't done in the past, or won't be done in the future, so why attack M J Fox for doing it ?

macallan25 10-27-2006 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1347143)
So how do you account for Howard Stern, then (minus the background in sportcasting)???

Stern was the very first person to do something as extreme as he does it in the history of broadcast radio. Sex sells......and he was a major trailblazer in bringing it into every household and car in the country. I don't think you can really compare. When you are getting paid half a billion dollars to talk on satellite radio....you must have done something right.

AlexMack 10-27-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Glitter650 (Post 1347185)
You know... as far as "using" Fox for "sympathy" I see it no differently than the police putting the distraught mother of the missing child begging for their kid's safe return.
You want to show how much this event (in this case disease) can hurt people, and then tell them what can be done to help it. I think *Most* people know that of course the media is going to play on our emotions. It's nothing new and nothing others haven't done in the past, or won't be done in the future, so why attack M J Fox for doing it ?

Because he's supporting a liberal candidate of course. I am so sick of this whole 'hurr lie-berals' 'hurr republi-can'ts' argument. It's never about issues and policy, it's always 'you suck because you belong to this party and vote this way.'

Yes, because I find Jon Stewart funny and entertaining, as well making some good points, obviously I know nothing. It has nothing to do with the fact that I do not agree with the new laws and policies that have been made by the current republican majority.
For instance-I agree with gay marriage, stem cell research and abortions. This means I will support the candidate who believes the same things.
If John McCain runs for president in 2008 and I agree with his stances, then I will vote for him (I should have my citizenship by then).

I personally think Ann Cooter just says the things she says to sell books. There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Tom Earp 10-27-2006 08:15 PM

Did anyone happen to catch Micheals interview with Katie?

I think he explained the effects very well.

ann.coulter2 10-27-2006 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1347143)
So how do you account for Howard Stern, then (minus the background in sportcasting)???

Not much to compare. Limbaugh dominates the ratings among adults in nearly 600 markets.

Stern did well among youngsters in the 30 or so markets he had.

Stern, incidently, is looking to get back on regular radio, and Sirius will be available on the internet soon.

Can someone prove as they posted: "Do you remember when Rush went on and on about how drug addicts should be locked up? Well I do." Never happened.

RU OX Alum 10-27-2006 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1347004)
Oh I don't doubt it was cut and paste, but if you're going to take the time to find something like that, you may as well bold and comment on the parts you found relevant to the discussion. Otherwise it's a pointless post.

yeah, i thought she was being post modern

RU OX Alum 10-27-2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2 (Post 1347343)
Not much to compare. Limbaugh dominates the ratings among adults in nearly 600 markets.

Stern did well among youngsters in the 30 or so markets he had.

Stern, incidently, is looking to get back on regular radio, and Sirius will be available on the internet soon.

Can someone prove as they posted: "Do you remember when Rush went on and on about how drug addicts should be locked up? Well I do." Never happened.

did so

sdsuchelle 10-27-2006 11:53 PM

October 10th, 1995:

"There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods, which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."

"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use, too many whites are getting away with drug sales, too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."

On his TV show on December 9, 1993:

"I'm appalled at people who simply want to look at all this abhorrent behavior and say, "Hey, you know, we can't control it anymore. People are going to do drugs anyway. Let's legalize it." It's a dumb idea. It's a rotten idea, and those who are for it are purely, 100 percent selfish."

... and more

AlexMack 10-28-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sdsuchelle (Post 1347366)
October 10th, 1995:

"There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods, which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."

"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use, too many whites are getting away with drug sales, too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."

On his TV show on December 9, 1993:

"I'm appalled at people who simply want to look at all this abhorrent behavior and say, "Hey, you know, we can't control it anymore. People are going to do drugs anyway. Let's legalize it." It's a dumb idea. It's a rotten idea, and those who are for it are purely, 100 percent selfish."

... and more

OH SNAP!

sdsuchelle 10-28-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1347477)
OH SNAP!

OWNED

;)

Tom Earp 10-28-2006 03:24 PM

Sorry, but what happened to the Thread?

AlexMack 10-28-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1347496)
Sorry, but what happened to the Thread?

The gimmick account Ann Coulter started throwing wild accusations around about libs do this and that and poor conversatives and poor Rush and blah blah blah. We're still on-topic I promise.

ann.coulter2 10-29-2006 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1347508)
The gimmick account Ann Coulter started throwing wild accusations around about libs do this and that and poor conversatives and poor Rush and blah blah blah. We're still on-topic I promise.

Yes, your "wild accusations" = the truth.

Most of these libs, posing as college boys & girls, are unable to debate issues, and jump to personal attacks and falsehoods within two sentences.

Tom Earp 10-29-2006 11:53 AM

Fox still has the desease, Rush is still a jerk with big ratings.

He is not a drug addict, just hooked on them that are perscribed for him.

I do not care for him even though he has KC ties.

If he was the only person on Radio, I would keep it turned off!

macallan25 10-29-2006 01:19 PM

I believe when you are "hooked on drugs" you are most likely a drug addict. Most coke addicts are......hooked on coke.

Tom Earp 10-29-2006 02:33 PM

WRONG!

Try Meth.:mad:

macallan25 10-29-2006 03:11 PM

No, actually i'm not wrong.


So if you know someone hooked on heroin.....you wouldn't say they were addicted? That makes alot of sense.

Tom Earp 10-29-2006 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1347784)
No, actually i'm not wrong.


So if you know someone hooked on heroin.....you wouldn't say they were addicted? That makes alot of sense.


Sorry, I said try Meth which is 10 x times worse than your seem to be drug of choice. :o


So Cocoa butter is better? Not!

Do you have teeth?

Then, you are not on Meth, you are on Coke.

If you advocate Coke, then, bless You!

Go for it if you will!

macallan25 10-29-2006 05:18 PM

I don't even know what any of that means......seriously.

If you are hooked on a drug...then you are addicted. Don't know how your focus shifted to Meth, teeth, and advocating blow.

Your responses make my head hurt.

FirstAndFinest 10-29-2006 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2 (Post 1347343)
Stern, incidently, is looking to get back on regular radio, and Sirius will be available on the internet soon.

Shenanigans!

Howard would have no incentive to go back to terrestrial radio; he's collecting a handsome paycheck from Sirius and they give him something terrestrial radio is unable to give - TRUE freedom of speech. I cannot see him doing part-time terrestrial and part-time satelite, like O&A do. His satelite show would be ALL bleeps on terrestrial radio!!

Sirius subscribers have been able to log onto sirius.com and listen to Howard for months now.

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He is not a drug addict, just hooked on them that are perscribed for him.
All due respect, it doesn't matter how one comes by a substance. Doesn't matter if you take the percocet prescribed by an MD or you buy coke/crack/meth/H/X/pot from a dealer (or cook the meth in your kitchen coffee maker)! Once a person becomes "hooked", or dependent, or whatever euphemism you prefer, the result is the same: the person has the disease of addiction. That doesn't make the person bad, just sick. (though sick people, esp those with addictions, do bad things...)

As for MJF, I think it is truly despicable that anyone would accuse him of faking/acting. My father-in-law has this disease and the effects are so heartbreaking! I imagine they are more-so for a man as young as MJF. I know I'm grateful that he is a proponent for research!

GeekyPenguin 10-29-2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2 (Post 1347667)
Yes, your "wild accusations" = the truth.

Most of these libs, posing as college boys & girls, are unable to debate issues, and jump to personal attacks and falsehoods within two sentences.

LOL, because you're not masquerading at all. ;)

sdsuchelle 10-29-2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2 (Post 1347667)
Yes, your "wild accusations" = the truth.

Most of these libs, posing as college boys & girls, are unable to debate issues, and jump to personal attacks and falsehoods within two sentences.

LOLOLOL

THE IRONY OF THAT STATEMENT IS AMAZING

Drolefille 10-30-2006 01:40 AM

so.... I'm really a dirty liberal (age... I dunno 35 or so) pretending to be a college student?

Hmm

This opens up a whole lot of options. If wasn't really in college for 3.5 years, I must not have joined a sorority either. In which case, I never would have found GC, so I couldn't be on here. But if I wasn't here and a dirty liberal I could be a college student.

*Brain asplode*

good to know that Annpuppet is just as crazy as the original.

AlphaFrog 10-30-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1347831)
Your responses make my head hurt.

I may quote this in my signature...truer words have never been spoken about Tom Earp.

macallan25 10-30-2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1348066)
I may quote this in my signature...truer words have never been spoken about Tom Earp.


absolutely

ReachTheLimit 10-30-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1346057)
Rush Limbaugh acted like a piece of shit. Plain and simple. What a tremendous asshole. Michael J. Fox is one of the classiest people in Hollywood.


"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease," Limbaugh told listeners. "He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. . . . This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

I agree, to me it doesn't matter if you are a Democrat or a Republican...Rush doesn't do anything but rant and rave because he can't come up with any original ideas of his own.

I'm not against stem cell research, because there are tons of embryos that are not used and when they are at this state of development, there is virtually no nervous system, so the embryo is not capable of feeling pain or anything else, so I see nothing wrong with this research.

If good can come of it, I say let it take place.

AlexMack 10-30-2006 01:24 PM

Oh Ann Cooter...I think you are absolutely unaware of the irony and hypocrisy of your posts which just get funnier and funnier.

Tom, it doesn't matter how you get the drugs, you're still an addict. I still take vicodin for chronic pain so I know that even if you start with a medical purpose, soon it can explode into an addiction.
Also, what's with the meth reference? I didn't quite follow that.

Drolefille 10-30-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1348210)
Oh Ann Cooter...I think you are absolutely unaware of the irony and hypocrisy of your posts which just get funnier and funnier.

Tom, it doesn't matter how you get the drugs, you're still an addict. I still take vicodin for chronic pain so I know that even if you start with a medical purpose, soon it can explode into an addiction.
Also, what's with the meth reference? I didn't quite follow that.

You take vicodan? You can't be addicted to that... *cough*HOUSE*cough* try Meth instead.

(Not sure what he was saying either)

AlexMack 10-30-2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1348220)
You take vicodan? You can't be addicted to that... *cough*HOUSE*cough* try Meth instead.

(Not sure what he was saying either)

Well Blueangel informed the entire messageboard (not that ANYONE is actually reading her posts anymore) that I have a slipped disk and bad knee. I had knee surgery earlier this year which ended a year of excruciating mystery pain (I'm not exaggerating by excruciating either, compared to that childbirth will be a walk in the park) and now I have a herniated disk in my lower back that's acting up.
Also, I value my teeth and prefer no street drug addictions :D Vicodin's horrible enough to come down off. I've seen methadone withdrawal firsthand...just bleurgh.

Is this the first Tom Earp post you can't translate? I'm surprised!

SydneyK 10-30-2006 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532
I had knee surgery earlier this year which ended a year of excruciating mystery pain (I'm not exaggerating by excruciating either, compared to that childbirth will be a walk in the park) ...

hijack

I can't hold my tongue here. I've also experienced years of excruciating knee pain and several dislocations. I've had knee surgery (among other types of surgery). Childbirth was not a walk in the park. Granted, I didn't have an epidural, which would probably have put a damper on the pain. I'm convinced that childbirth is the most painful experience a human can go through.

Not trying to diminish your knee pain, but unless you've gone through childbirth, don't say it will be a walk in the park (unless you plan to get an epidural, which I would definitely recommend!).

end hijack

RU OX Alum 10-30-2006 02:02 PM

if you want to get technical about it, don't do cough syrup. Cough syrup has "meth."

Meth can refer to lots of things, mainly a type of amphetimine, and is very bad stimulant. Crystal meth is what you get on the street. It gets its name b/c it is basically street meth (crushed up diet pills, any stimulant, sometimes dirty things like shoe polish, kerosene, etc.) added to the mix are crushed up quartz crystals, because people think they give extra energy. They give extra brain damage. People seriously, the speed they will give you at the doctor, OTC, etc. is bad enough. Who would cook it all up together?

Drolefille 10-30-2006 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1348227)
Well Blueangel informed the entire messageboard (not that ANYONE is actually reading her posts anymore) that I have a slipped disk and bad knee. I had knee surgery earlier this year which ended a year of excruciating mystery pain (I'm not exaggerating by excruciating either, compared to that childbirth will be a walk in the park) and now I have a herniated disk in my lower back that's acting up.
Also, I value my teeth and prefer no street drug addictions :D Vicodin's horrible enough to come down off. I've seen methadone withdrawal firsthand...just bleurgh.

Is this the first Tom Earp post you can't translate? I'm surprised!

Oh, no, I just haven't tried yet. I was just teasing about the vicodan :p. I guess I'll translate over my lunch break.

AlexMack 10-30-2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1348236)
hijack

I can't hold my tongue here. I've also experienced years of excruciating knee pain and several dislocations. I've had knee surgery (among other types of surgery). Childbirth was not a walk in the park. Granted, I didn't have an epidural, which would probably have put a damper on the pain. I'm convinced that childbirth is the most painful experience a human can go through.

Not trying to diminish your knee pain, but unless you've gone through childbirth, don't say it will be a walk in the park (unless you plan to get an epidural, which I would definitely recommend!).

end hijack

I've never not planned to get an epidural :P Actually, technically what happened to my knee was that the patella had a severe lateral tilt which caused all my medial hamstring tendons to go into spasm. No doctor could figure out what was wrong. I couldn't sit, couldn't stand, couldn't walk, couldn't run etc. etc. Because of my age, my doctors thought that I couldn't possibly be in that much pain and refused to prescribe me painkillers.
I would honestly say, at this point, that my pain from my leg was easily comparable to childbirth. It really did hurt that badly. Think about the pain from childbirth, then relocate it to just above and behind your knee. Then think about how no one believes that you are in pain, especially that amount of pain, because it's not easily fixable.
I'm not diminishing childbirth, but I am not exaggerating about my knee either.

AlphaFrog 10-30-2006 02:20 PM

My mom was born with her kneecaps on upside down. She had screws in her knees, reconstructive surgery, and finally total knee replacements. She also gave birth without an epidural. I'm about 99% sure she would take the childbirth (all 57 hours of it) over the knee problems any day.

SydneyK 10-30-2006 02:51 PM

*shrugs* I guess it's apples and oranges anyway. It's hard to compare year(s) of chronic pain to hours of labor pain. Plus, the result of childbirth is so much more joyful than that of knee surgery. Most women would (hopefully) say they would go through labor all over again, in spite of the pain involved. Most people who've had knee surgery would probably say they'd go to any lengths to keep from having to go through it again.

I'm all for stem cell research. And pooh on Rush for his mean-spirited comments about MJF.


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