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_Opi_ 10-18-2006 05:18 PM

I wouldnt necessarily call the ban stupid. I can see where the school is coming from. We live in society were we sue each other over everything, and they just dont want to be held liable for injuries that might occur.

But I think it's going too far with tag. What will they ban next? Sports? Recess? Gym? etc. Accidents will always happen. You can't prevent some of them, but with proper supervision I think most can be avoided.

AKA2D '91 10-18-2006 06:14 PM

Not only that, but the hood could conceal something. I guess many districts are thinking about the random shootings that have taken place. :confused:

I just tell the student to remove the hood in the building or room. As long as the sweatshirt is navy, gold, or white, it's not a problem.

starang21 10-18-2006 07:39 PM

this is stupid.

we're a sue-happy society and we're going to continue to have some fat kids.

starang21 10-18-2006 07:47 PM

we played kill the man with the ball

CrimsonTide4 10-18-2006 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1341868)
we played kill the man with the ball

We called it down the man.:cool:

PEARLS4ME 10-18-2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1341633)
We played freeze tag at home more than at school, except gym class.

At recess, I was on the swings. :) I hated the teeter totter. I was always in the freaking air.:(

I hated it it because I was always on the freaking ground( heavy kid) lol

AlphaFrog 10-19-2006 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1341686)
I wasn't thinking of Freeze Tag though, I was thinking of regular tag aka "it" as someone else put it. Freeze tag isn't nearly as exclusionary.

Actually, Freeze tag can be MORE exclusionary...I remember that there was always one or two kids that no one would un-freeze when they were frozen...

CrimsonTide4 10-19-2006 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1341686)

I wasn't thinking of Freeze Tag though, I was thinking of regular tag aka "it" as someone else put it. Freeze tag isn't nearly as exclusionary.

So I'm guessing that "it" was just you're "it" until you tag someone else who becomes "it" until they tag someone else? If so, played that as well.

Drolefille 10-19-2006 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1342130)
Actually, Freeze tag can be MORE exclusionary...I remember that there was always one or two kids that no one would un-freeze when they were frozen...

True, but there wasn't the "slow kid" issue.... There's no winning really. How did everyone unfreeze in freeze tag? For us it was diving under the legs... on asphalt of course.

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1342144)
So I'm guessing that "it" was just you're "it" until you tag someone else who becomes "it" until they tag someone else? If so, played that as well.

Yep. We just called it tag.

Sophist08edLady 10-19-2006 10:03 AM

Being that I am the only one who supports this ban let me explain my point. As a parent who has had to take their child to the emergency room for stitches because of rough play on the school yard I believe that rough play should be banned.

We must remember that we are living in different times…kids don’t play like we used to play. Kids now a day are bigger, stronger and more violent. What was once a simple tag is now a big push that causes little Ray Ray to fall and now he wants to fight lilttle Ta’quan because he’s mad and then Ta’quan’s brother wants to bring a gun to school to get back at little Ray Ray. It’s just easier if kids don’t touch each other. We must also remember that due to school budget cuts, there is less supervision on the playground, this adds to the possibility of someone getting hurt.

mccoyred 10-19-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sophist08edLady (Post 1342201)
Being that I am the only one who supports this ban let me explain my point. As a parent who has had to take their child to the emergency room for stitches because of rough play on the school yard I believe that rough play should be banned.

We must remember that we are living in different times…kids don’t play like we used to play. Kids now a day are bigger, stronger and more violent. What was once a simple tag is now a big push that causes little Ray Ray to fall and now he wants to fight lilttle Ta’quan because he’s mad and then Ta’quan’s brother wants to bring a gun to school to get back at little Ray Ray. It’s just easier if kids don’t touch each other. We must also remember that due to school budget cuts, there is less supervision on the playground, this adds to the possibility of someone getting hurt.


As a parent who has had to take children to the emergency room when they got hurt at HOME, I think the ban is going too far. Children can be hurt ANYWHERE.

Sophist08edLady 10-19-2006 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1342240)
As a parent who has had to take children to the emergency room when they got hurt at HOME, I think the ban is going too far. Children can be hurt ANYWHERE.

This is true...children can get hurt anywhere, but if we can lessen the chances, shouldn't we try? I know that in my home I have certain safety devices to prevent harm. This tactic is merely harm reduction and needed in a time when school violence is rampant.

Drolefille 10-19-2006 11:04 AM

We should wrap children in bubblewrap and pillows and make them sit still at all times...

crimsondanger10 10-19-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1342255)
We should wrap children in bubblewrap and pillows and make them sit still at all times...

LOL!

mulattogyrl 10-19-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1342255)
We should wrap children in bubblewrap and pillows and make them sit still at all times...

damn you LOL

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1342130)
Actually, Freeze tag can be MORE exclusionary...I remember that there was always one or two kids that no one would un-freeze when they were frozen...

I don't know why but this made me laugh too. I'll come un-freeze you, LMAO.

MsFoxyLoxy77 10-19-2006 03:40 PM

Down with the wussification of our children
 
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1342255)
We should wrap children in bubblewrap and pillows and make them sit still at all times...

ditto!

I don't think the school should try to rule out the slightest possibility of a child being hurt playing a game like tag. I do think they should safeguard children against risks that are highly probably. If the size of the kids is that big of an issue then perhaps the games should be split up into 2 different sections according to assumed weight class just like organized sports. 10yr old Debo needs to play with other 5th graders closer to his size and etc.

DSTCHAOS 10-19-2006 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MsFoxyLoxy77 (Post 1342462)
10yr old Debo needs to play with other 5th graders closer to his size and etc.

I tried to ignore this sentence. LOL.

"This MY bike, punk!!!!!"

Dionysus 10-19-2006 09:05 PM

And what happened to all of the gosh darn diving boards? I've been to a dozen public pools within the last year, and I've only seen two of them with diving boards. Diving boads are the shiznit. Dayum all of these soccer moms for changing everything! :mad:

Drolefille 10-19-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1342638)
And what happened to all of the gosh darn diving boards? I've been to a dozen public pools within the last year, and I've only seen two of them with diving boards. Diving boads are the shiznit. Dayum all of these soccer moms for changing everything! :mad:

Sadly that one's not soccer moms but insurance. :( The university in my city got rid of its diving boards (not sure about the diving program itself) because insurance was too high for the competitive heights. Same goes for the low boards at public pools.

BlessedOne04 10-19-2006 09:27 PM

Whats next are going to ban books...we will just elearn! lol What a mess.

Drolefille 10-19-2006 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BlessedOne04 (Post 1342654)
Whats next are going to ban books...we will just elearn! lol What a mess.

Books are heavy, and paper could cut you. Kids shouldn't read anyway, they'll get ideas.

lovelyivy84 10-20-2006 01:34 PM

While I understand the safety concerns, I still don't think they should take away tag. I do think that there needs to be more supervision from the schools. I know when I was a kid out on the playground there were ALWAYS teachers there to grab up the kids who got too rough. Where are those teachers now?

Sophist08edLady 10-20-2006 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1343060)
While I understand the safety concerns, I still don't think they should take away tag. I do think that there needs to be more supervision from the schools. I know when I was a kid out on the playground there were ALWAYS teachers there to grab up the kids who got too rough. Where are those teachers now?

Budget cuts...and remember back in the day alot of mothers would volunteer to work in the school cafeteria or playground...but now more women are working.

Honeykiss1974 10-20-2006 06:54 PM

This is bogus. I think its bad enough that many school districts have reduced or completely eliminated recess (and then wonder why kids are "hyper") but to get rid of "tag"? Kids need to run, get some pysical exercise and fresh air. And yes, sometimes kids get hurt on the playground, but it can happen just easily on the monkey bars, swings, or slide (remember going down the slide during the summer? You legs would be burnt up! LOL or seeing who could swing the highest and then jump out? LOL).

Shoot, I remember back in my day (lol) we had 3 recesses - morning, after lunch and afternoon. And our recess monitors were teachers. One half of our playground was filled with equipment and the other half was an empty field perfect for tag, kick ball, or "racing".

But anyway given the lack of socialization/activities that kids today are bombarded with (ie video games, computer, etc.) something like this that gets kids interacting with others as well as physically active is a good thing.

AKA2D '91 10-24-2006 11:38 AM

Chi-town Schools and Recess
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ationworld-hed

CrimsonTide4 10-24-2006 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1344791)

WOW!!! I did some reading on Chicago Public Schools years ago, but did not know this about recess, or the lack thereof. Almost 30 years without recess.:eek: :eek:

I am so thankful that we had recess growing up. On inclement weather days, recess was indoors -- film strips, movies, or games in the gym. But I remember in 3rd grade playing kickball in the snow for afternoon recess. Thanks Mrs. K!! :D

AKA2D '91 10-24-2006 12:17 PM

Inclimate weather games (most were held in your respective classes): Heads up, 7-up (whoever got picked stand up), sing-a-longs, Here comes the cat, hangman, SOS.

Just this past week, a few friends from elementary school reminisced about our recess, 4-square days. It's been nearly THIRTY years. :eek: :D :cool:

CrimsonTide4 10-24-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1344826)
Inclimate weather games (most were held in your respective classes): Heads up, 7-up (whoever got picked stand up), sing-a-longs, Here comes the cat, hangman, SOS.

Just this past week, a few friends from elementary school reminisced about our recess, 4-square days. It's been nearly THIRTY years. :eek: :D :cool:

OMG!!!! Heads Up 7 Up was the ISHT!!!!! Yeah the games were played in our classroom but sometimes we got to go to the gym for movies and an all grade "What Time Is It Mr. Fox" or dodgeball.:cool: We watched the film strips in our classrooms with our lunch lady.

I had this thought the other day but I am so glad I was born in the time period I was born.:)

kiml122 10-24-2006 01:52 PM

So they are banning tag...WTH

Steeltrap 10-24-2006 07:26 PM

Schools should be trying to restore recess. Seriously -- if we're about fighting childhood obesity, physical activity should not be eliminated. Back in the day when I was a kid, we didn't have the 'Net or video games. We played. On the other hand, it was a safer time.

BlessedOne04 10-24-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap (Post 1345228)
Schools should be trying to restore recess. Seriously -- if we're about fighting childhood obesity, physical activity should not be eliminated. Back in the day when I was a kid, we didn't have the 'Net or video games. We played. On the other hand, it was a safer time.

Okay so playing devils advocate what about the schools that have recess and still have a large percent of childhood obesity? What about instead having more structured gym time?

Steeltrap 10-25-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BlessedOne04 (Post 1345356)
Okay so playing devils advocate what about the schools that have recess and still have a large percent of childhood obesity? What about instead having more structured gym time?

Hey, I don't give a flip whether it's free-lance recess or structured gym time. The kids need some sort of physical activity. I am speaking as someone who was a lean kid who enjoyed running. Clearly, that's changed.

TheEpitome1920 10-25-2006 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1344791)

I'm a product of CPS and we had recess every day in grammar school.

I went to Oscar Mayer Elementary (no jokes!) and Lincoln Park HS!:D

Sophist08edLady 10-25-2006 03:38 PM

I still support the ban on tag. However, I do believe that there should be structured physical activities for children. In countries like Japan the students do not have recess nor do they have summer breaks. They do, however, have structured physical activitiy to promote good health and social activities that focus on music and the arts. We have all seen the research...their children are ahead of our children by leaps and bounds in science and math and this is aiding in the growth of their national economy. Japan is now the technological hub and American's are lossing jobs to overseas because of our "relaxed" attitudes. IMO :o

Drolefille 10-25-2006 03:43 PM

Japanese children must also figure out their career before they enter high school AND commit suicide if they don't do well enough on the tests or get into the right school. Relaxation is important.

dekeguy 10-25-2006 04:03 PM

We are getting too soft. Let's go back to corporal punishment for minor school infractions and capital punishment for for the serious stuff like talking in
the library. Ah, for the good old days when the headmaster would flog the miscreants daily, and if there were none that day he would pick a few at random just to encourage the others to stay out of trouble. If capital punishment was applied the school would ship the remains back home marked transport charges to be paid by consignee, COD.

OrigamiTulip 10-25-2006 04:16 PM

So are we raising children or veal calves?

Honeykiss1974 10-25-2006 04:19 PM

I am SOOOOOOO for corporal punishment like we had growing up. Just looking at the paddle sitting on the teacher's desk was enough to make me think twice about participating in school shenanigans.

dekeguy 10-25-2006 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BetaRose (Post 1345956)
So are we raising children or veal calves?

I dunno, which tastes better bar-be-cued?

Dionysus 10-25-2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974 (Post 1345960)
I am SOOOOOOO for corporal punishment like we had growing up. Just looking at the paddle sitting on the teacher's desk was enough to make me think twice about participating in school shenanigans.

Spankings stop hurting (as much) if you get enough of them.


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