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i would also like us to be mindful as to not paint the orgs. or its members w/the same brush. having grown up in J&J, gone to Spelman, "pledged" AKA, and chartering a chapter of The Links, Incorporated, what you all see isn't exactly what's real. everyone in these groups isn't rich/wealthy (i'm sure as heck not), or oh-so-connected, well-known, etc. the common thread is is that people wanted it (and not even w/the same desire, mind you). these folks did what was necessary to join whether they worked hard or little or paid a lot or a little. these groups do have members that weren't looked upon years ago so things have changed. apparently, perceptions haven't but that's understandable.
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Personally I was invited. However my family had great connections working within the organization itself.
I will say one thing as much animosity as I have encountered from my college peers when they discover I was a member of this organization, I don't regret a min of being apart of J&J. I have met some of my most reliable and caring friends through J&J. Not to mention the lifelong network that was bulid between the members. The ironic part was when I was in jr high and high school, my peers who were nots members were encouraging to me being a part of j and j. It was only when I got to college particullay in an Afro-Am studies class that I was treated negatively for my invovlement in Jack and Jill's. I had never experienced that b4 and was quite surprise that other black folks had such a problem with the organization.It was a most def a eye opening experience. |
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As a matter of fact my J&J "mothers" are throwing me a wedding shower in a few months!!! They are all very intelligent, classy women. And I have learned a lot over the years from each of them. |
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I joined Jack&Jill as a Pooh in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.. or Tulsa.. lol actualy I'm not quite sure anymore. Anyway.. at the time my parents were married however in 1994 they divorced and we moved to Maryland, I didn't know until recently that the only reason why I was able to join the Montgomery County Chapter was because I was previously in the OKC Chapter. When they found out my mother was divorced they treated her very differently. I never noticed it until she told me about it. But I think that childness was only kept between the mothers. The kids I grew up with in Jack & Jill are my best friends in fact 8 of us ended up going to school together in the AUC :)
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So would you place your kids in J&J?
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Honestly, I don't know. I know my mother put me in J&J because we lived around all white people and she wanted me to grow up around "people like me" but I dont think I'd have that problem when I have kids (should God bless me with any). I have many reasons to dislike J&J and just as many reasons to love J&J but I don't want my personal experiences to determine wether or not I want my kids to experience it. Lol I read your question hours ago and this is the best answer I could come up with lol "I don't know". I wish I could be a liiiiittle more helpful though! I'll make sure to let you know when I finally come up with an amswer :)
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You don't have to let me know. I wasn't asking out of personal interest in J&J. I was just asking to be asking. I would hope that I would be able to expose my children to positive role models simply through the neighborhood in which I live. I don't go for private schools, J&J or any other orgs wherein my kids wouldn't be exposed to "everyone" - the good and the bad. I was and I turned out fine. If I do say so myself. :) Quote:
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...at $400/ hour for your legal advice, you turned out real fine. :p:) |
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Thats a good way to look at it! I think being in Jack&Jill did expose me to being more active in my community though, outside of the school requirements a lot of my friends have not had much experience with volunteering and I think it helped me develop my leadership skills and it helped me pick a career, so for that purpose J&J was really helpful to me. But as far as meeting positive people and making friends... you dont need J&J lol |
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L2S,
I hear you and agree that it is good for kids to do community service. Hopefully, some of my own will rub off on the kids...whether they like it or not. :) Quote:
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I think if kids find a way to serve their community that is fun and helpful at the same time, they'd be more willing to do it. My first time doing community service was tutoring 3rd graders for the George B. Thomas Learning Academy and I liked it so much that I did all through high school then signed up for a similar program in college. I think once kids find their niche or realize that they actualy are making a difference, they'd stick with it and not see it as a chore. :P
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I'm so mad the spammer used a DC cultural icon (Mumbo/Mambo Sauce) to represent itself!
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Needless to say, the young people at that time that became my friends, still are my friends to this day... |
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I think the "pros" are fact and the "cons" are opinion. I read the blog. I think this person's experience has been somewhat limited. The Jack and Jiller's that I've met run a gamut of different personalities which include introverts and extroverts. |
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Wow. It seems like that person has a lot of negative thoughts about a club for kids! I'd love to hear the hate he or she gives to sororities and fraternities. I've heard nothing but good things about Jack and Jill from people who actually did it; it sounds like a great thing for a lot of middle and upper-middle class black kids, who are so often the "Only" in their school, neighborhood, or teams/clubs. So often, when those kids spend time with cousins or other black kids, they get accused of "acting" or "talking" white. (Once, I was accused of "sneezing" white. No lie.) I think as more blacks enter the professional class, things will get better for the kids--I know that my niece and nephew aren't the Onlys to the extent that my sister and I were. |
I dont agree with these cons at all...
Jack and Jill exposes members to ONLY the same type of Black kids. > Actually. No. My chapter had us do massive amounts of service in the most torn down areas so I was exposed to many "types" of black people. Jack and Jill creates a false sense of what Black America is, more so America in general. > Not at all. And if you rely on Jack and Jill to define what Black America is then maybe you need to do some soul searching elsewhere. Jack and Jill sponsors invite-only events, thus at an early age, children are not taught to “play nice” with other Blacks > I strongly doubt, if you joined J&J at an early age, that you even know about the invite part. Also, Jack and Jill is non profit and gets most of its money from dues and charity events. It makes sense that you would invite a certain "type" of person because you want your organization to flourish. I dont mean to sound ignorant but if J&J had open membership, anybody could join, and it could jeopardize the organizations financial stability. Im not saying I agree with the principal but that is just the way it is. |
And to Munchkin.. I was accused of brushing my teeth like a white person because I actualy brush for four minutes with a timer... idk how thats white but hey!
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I didn't have the opportunity to be a part of J&J when I was a child. I had a blue-collar father, for one. MamaTrap also was the type who was low-key when I was a kid because my dad was shy and disliked being social. I have several sororfriends, including one of my line sisters, who are in it and speak highly of it. |
Hello Soror Steeltrap. Happy to see you dropping by. Too few of the GC oldschool sorors are here these days.
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I miss GC. |
We miss you too. But I know how life gets hectic sometimes. :)
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