You know what? It's really up to you. It really doesn't matter to me if you decide to post a story.

I see recruitment stories as a courtesy to GC. You don't have to do one, they're appreciated by many, especially when done right.

What's most important is you finding a home on your campus. So...I'm sorry if I've thrown some reality your way. I don't believe in blowing sunshine up the PNMs asses, so if I'm guilty for telling it like it is, then so be it.

Obviously it's up to me, it's my life. I'm sorry but I just feel too vulnerable to share my story. If anyone is interested in hearing some of my thoughts during recruitment I can send out some PMs. I will post where I end up on bid day as well. I won't say which houses I am a legacy to, but I will give opinions on certain houses if PMed, in case anyone is curious about their chapter. Thanks for everyone who has taken such an interest in my story. I'm sorry I won't be able to share it with everyone.

PNMs should know first and foremost that they take a risk of getting found out if they post their story on GC. It doesn't matter if they're a campus of 100 girls rushing or 1400 girls rushing. I don't say this to scare them, I say this to make them aware of it.

I brought up the poor PNM as an example that this could happen because it has happened. I'm not obligated in any way to discuss it in detail. I'm sure longtime GCers will remember her story, and if they want to throw it out there, go ahead. If that's not good enough for you, then too bad. DEAL WITH IT.

And regarding your last sentence...CurlyGurly's rush thread from 2002. There's your answer.

I agree that discretion is important, but it's also possible for Californiagirl to share her story without being found out. Specifics like clothing, decorations, conversation topics, house descriptions, etc aren't necessary- just saying "this house really impressed me- I think they are all really great and I clicked instantly with the women I met", "I'm still unsure about whether this group is for me", and "I don't think this is the right group for me" is great! It'll be a reminder for her when she looks back on everything, and if someone does find out which house is which... does it necessarily matter? Nothing negative said- not every group is for every woman, or there would just be one big sorority!

It's up to you, Californiagirl, but many women have shared their stories on GC without any issues. So long as you remain respectful and don't trash any of the groups, you should be fine! Even if you don't want to post your experience until the end, and only translate the "winning" house, that's fine. Recruitment stories certainly help those of us adicts get our fix... but they're also great for you to record your experience, get advice/support as necessary, and look back on everything several years down the road. I wish I had found it before I joined- I would love to see what I was thinking back then!

Just my two cents.

Thanks Buttonz, I don't want to say where I get invited back, just in case. I would also never say anything rude about any of the houses. I know they all have something special to offer. I have friends in almost every house, and they are all so special. I just don't want to look back feeling like people judged me because they knew I was Caligirl (good or bad). I hope everyone can understand my decision. I will let you know on bid day, and through PMs for some of you. Thanks everyone.

-Cali Girl

Good luck!
 

Best of luck to you Californiagirl! I hope rush is fun!

After reading through Curlygirl's rush at UF 2002, I'm not really worried about posting my story. I mean I wasn't planning on saying the girls at ABC were so mean and ugly and the girls at XYZ were so trashy and stuck up. I mean honestly, who in their right mind would do that. I wouldn't even say that to my friends. I mean of course the worst thing I was going to post about any sorority was "I didn't really feel a strong connection, but the girls were so enthusiastic and the one girl I talked to would be a great friend outside greek life." I don't really even see that as a negative comment. However, I don't really see how I can post my story now that all this nonsense has gone down. I already mentioned I was planning on revealing the sororities at the end, why would anyone expect me to post that I hated a particular sorority? Anyway, the point is I was planning on being discreet, just like every single other rush thread, but I feel that too much attention has been drawn to my location and legacy status now. I will def be updating through PMs and saying I went back to 8 houses or 3 houses or I preffed at ABC and QRS I love them both. I hope this is enough to feed all you addicts. Sorry again for my choice in discretion.


-Cali Girl

i wanna PM, por favor!
 

awww man! I was so excited to see a Cali thread up here, especially since i was out there this summer for the first time, and saw one of our houses-beautiful! So, I would LOOOOVE to hear your story caligirl, in PM if you prefer. It's too bad people freaked you out so much to post, but you gotta go with your gut. Good luck!

No, it is not passe. Good manners and classy dressing never become passe.

Unless you live in a very warm climate, white below the waist is inappropriate after Labor Day (unless it's winter white). White is worn during the warmer months in order to keep the wearer cooler. In the early Spring, Fall, and Winter, there's no need to keep cool. The temperatures are not high enough to warrant keeping cool. So, white below the waist is reserved for the Late Spring/Summer months. Besides, who would want to wear white shoes or a white skirt in November? I don't even wear white shoes AT ALL.

Actually I wouldn't want anyone to beg me, and I can post by whatever rules I like. I can say I'm going to UCLA and I am a double legacy. I know what the consequences are for not being discreet, and therefore whatever happens I can only blame myself. However, due to some comments made about my identity I have chosen not to post my story. I honestly don't feel that it is safe for me to share my opinions on this forum. I don't see anything wrong with that. I honestly hope that most sororities don't treat all PNMs this way.

I really mean this
 

White Fashion, should be the title. Sorry.

Where did you learn the "no white below the waist" rule? I'm really curious about sources for the rule.

I don't want to wear white all year or anything, but I was brought up with no white SHOES after Labor Day and before Easter.

When I was in college, I knew people who didn't think you should wear white dresses or all white after Labor Day. (Weirdly, during rush, I wore a white dress, but I didn't wear white shoes with it. And I thought I was being traditional. Doesn't that seem bizarro? I don't even own white shoes now. White leather just doesn't look good to me.)

and your rule says no white below the waist. (One of my friends takes this further and says White Jeans Equals White Trash, no matter what time of year.)

Where are such rules officially recorded? Are there regional guides? (My mom who taught me the no white shoes rule is from New Mexico.)

I also remember reading a story about one member of the British Royal Family catching a lot of grief because she appeared in white shoes after Labor Day. The official response was that they didn't have that rule in England.

So lets compare, if the highjack is okay. Where are you? What rule did you learn? Who was the authority for the rule?

(I live in Georgia. You can have days in the high 80s in October and it's HOT way before Memorial Day.)

It is your choice. :) Do let us know where you end up. Or even a short play by play after the fact if you feel comfortable. Sometimes we get all wrapped up in the "should she/shouldn't she" stuff, that we push the PNM out of the actual discussion.

Have a fantastic rush!

Are you seriously this interested in this?

Ok, Tennessee. Also, went to Ole Miss. Yes, I know about warm climates.

Family, church, sorority sisters, everyone I know.

Yes, Seriously interested in White
 

I've always been vaguely embarrassed about the white dress during rush.

My mom is pretty cultured and well brought up, and she thought it was okay too. We always thought the rules was about shoes.

So, whenever it comes up, I wonder how we missed the memo, and I've always wanted to understand the "rule" better.

I vote for Natalie Portman, who's real name isn't Natalie Portman, by the way. It was a no-good-for-Hollywood name. She is from Lawn Gi-Land. Oy!

Denise

I was excited to read your story as well and I'm sorry if you feel like you can't post now.

I seriously doubt that there are that many GCers from your school on this thread, so if you went back right now and edited out some of the "identifying" comments, you've got a better chance of not being "found out."

Either way, good luck to you. If you have the time and energy to share your story via PM, I'd be more than happy to read it.

I think that was Fergie. However, in the book "A Southern Belle Primer or Why Princess Margaret will never be a Kappa Kappa Gamma" by Maryln Schwartz, Princess Margaret (1) was an hour late, (2) wore pink chiffon in the middle of the afternoon (to complicate matters, her shoes were a different shade of pink), and (3) walked around the room smoking a cigarette.

I guess when you're Princess Margaret, you can do whatever you want.
 

I bought and read that book a very long time ago. I think, after spending so much time on Greek Chat, I would enjoy re-reading it.

Unfortunately it's out of print.

I had a copy years ago but it was lost years ago in one of our moves.

Believe it or not, there's a new edition: "A Southern Belle Primer or Why Paris Hilton will never be a Kappa Kappa Gamma". The inside is practically word for word, but Paris Hilton just doesn't have the cachet of Princess Margaret!

There should actually be a whole separate thread on wearing white out of season, etc!

There is somewhere. At least one that I remember, probably more.

ETA:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ighlight=Labor

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ighlight=Labor

Me too!!! (even though I am part of "the tribe" and should vote for natalie portman ETA: or scarlett johanssen. but hey, i am a blonde convert so i think i can get a pass ;) )

Can't wait to hear more, CaliGirl!!!

Nor the class....

I'm interested in your story. Would love to hear how Recruitment has changed since I went through Rush at your school back in the days when the school was much smaller and there were still dinosaurs walking around on earth.;)

DaffyKD

Re rush stories: it's one thing for alums who are long out of school to say "I LOVE hearing honest opinions!" There was a girl on here who told her rush story and was very honest about her opinion of ASA on her campus and it didn't bother me at all. However, if I was a collegiate member of that sorority at that school, I might feel differently. "I worked my butt off on that skit and she said it was boring? SCREW HER!!" I know we all say we wouldn't do that, but rush is an emotional time.

If you're going to post a rush story and don't want to get found out right away, don't say where you are rushing and don't post the real names of the groups. If you read old ones the PNMs are much more open. That was before bad crap started to happen.

Re white, I've heard the "below the waist" rule also - no skirts or pants. LOL at white jeans. They keep trying to bring them back and what did I see the other day? A 75% off rack full of them. Unless you're stick thin or a small child, you do not need white jeans. Bleached out jeans yes, white ones no. Guys used to look semi cute in them, but they just aren't kind to females.

Caligirl, I know you've made your mind up, but you shouldn't just leave for no reason.
Here's the thing: I go to a big northern school and because greek life isn't big up here, I figured, eh, there will be NO ONE on the board who goes there. I was tempted to just out and out use the real names because I was going through informal recruitment and saw two sororities.

Well I absolutely fell in love with one and got shut down. I wound up COBing with the other after the shut down (the initial events hadn't impressed me) and I got a bid straightaway. You know who posts on this board? My big sister. I had no clue and now I am so glad I was subtle about my comments.

You should post. Yes, we know where you are. Yes we know you're a double legacy. But I'm sure you've seen the other recruitment story threads and you know exactly what you should and shouldn't write. Discretion is important but you know that. Don't leave. Don't be scared off. These threads are wonderful to read.

I had never thought of it this way. I see these posts as a way to improve and fix issues... even if you always make quota... seeing what people think about things helps... but I thought of this from an alumnae not from the collegiates side. This is a very good point.

I always thought of writing a post with misleading details (add an extra chapter or change the groups you do list). This would throw all of us overzealous people off the track.

CaliforniaGirl7,

I'm sorry that your thread got off to an awkward start; however, I am hoping that your recruitment itself will have an outstanding ending. Good luck and have a great time!


.....Kelly :)

Sure hope Californiagirl comes back soon to let us know if she found a home. Recruitment is over. I received word today that KD got 71 new members! Quota was 69. I remember back when I was in school, ceiling was 50.

DaffyKD

Where do you think she is???? Recruitment hasn't even started yet. :D

That was my thought too. She said it starts Tuesday..........

I think you have your schools mixed up. She said there's a Delta Gamma chapter at the school she's rushing. No California school that's done with recruitment that has a DG chapter has had a quota that high. I'm sure Californiagirl7 will come back when she's feels comfortable posting. And she did say recruitment starts this coming Tuesday--so I'm sure it'll be a while!

Based on the houses she listed, it appeared she was at SDSU which has finished recruitment with a high quota.

DaffyKD

She's at UCLA, which starts this week. :)

She's not at SDSU. We don't have some of those sororities.

SDSU doesn't have a Chi-O chapter :)