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DeltAlum 08-15-2006 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW
Smurfette and Betty both knew Neil Armstrong's wives personally...didn't ya know that?

I forgot.

Prunetacos 08-15-2006 10:01 PM

Great posts, but....
 
These are wonderful posts from lots of great people, but I still haven't found out about Sally Ride! Any Pi Phis out there who can confirm that she's in your organization? If you're not sure, no problem - I've loved all the comments! The ones about Betty Crocker and Aunt Jemimah were funny. BTW - did you know that Mrs. Campbell, of Campbell Soups was a Kappa? Next time you pop open a can of tomato or cream of mushroom soup, check out the fleur-de-lis!
- Prunetacos

alum 08-15-2006 10:08 PM

Another US astronaut, Judith Resnik, had been a sorority member from Carnegie Mellon. I think it was AEPhi which was no longer on campus by the time I was an undergraduate. She was killed in the Challenger Space Shuttle explosion in 1986.

Unregistered- 08-15-2006 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Prunetacos
These are wonderful posts from lots of great people, but I still haven't found out about Sally Ride! Any Pi Phis out there who can confirm that she's in your organization? If you're not sure, no problem

If you want to take some intiative yourself, most, if not all, NPC sororities have a link that'll take you to a listing of their distinguished alumnae. I'd think content on an HQ's website can be considered official content. :)

Judging from earlier posts and visits to official HQ websites, you can rule out Sigma Kappa, Pi Beta Phi, and Kappa Delta. I can say and I know for sure that she's not an Alpha Gamma Delta either. You got 22 more to check out if you want.

aephi alum 08-15-2006 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alum
Another US astronaut, Judith Resnik, had been a sorority member from Carnegie Mellon. I think it was AEPhi which was no longer on campus by the time I was an undergraduate. She was killed in the Challenger Space Shuttle explosion in 1986.

Judith Resnik was indeed an AEPhi.

AOII_LB93 08-15-2006 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW
If you want to take some intiative yourself, most, if not all, NPC sororities have a link that'll take you to a listing of their distinguished alumnae. I'd think content on an HQ's website can be considered official content. :)

Judging from earlier posts and visits to official HQ websites, you can rule out Sigma Kappa, Pi Beta Phi, and Kappa Delta. I can say and I know for sure that she's not an Alpha Gamma Delta either. You got 22 more to check out if you want.

20...she's not an AOII either.

WCUgirl 08-15-2006 10:49 PM

We can claim Jan Davis, but not Sally Ride.

19!

ISUKappa 08-15-2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Prunetacos
These are wonderful posts from lots of great people, but I still haven't found out about Sally Ride! Any Pi Phis out there who can confirm that she's in your organization? If you're not sure, no problem - I've loved all the comments! The ones about Betty Crocker and Aunt Jemimah were funny. BTW - did you know that Mrs. Campbell, of Campbell Soups was a Kappa? Next time you pop open a can of tomato or cream of mushroom soup, check out the fleur-de-lis!
- Prunetacos

Acutally Mrs. Campbell was most definitely not a Kappa. Nowhere in our history or database does Kappa claim her has a member. There is no "Mrs. Campbell" even. More likely, the fleur-de-lis on the label is a tie into the award the soup won at the 1900 Paris exhibition, the medal of which is also on the Campbell's soup labels.

NutBrnHair 08-16-2006 12:28 AM

Process of Elimination
 
Sally Ride....not a Chi Omega.


18!

alum 08-16-2006 12:47 AM

EDUCATION: Graduated from Westlake High School, Los Angeles, California, in 1968; received from Stanford University a bachelor of science in Physics and a bachelor of arts in English in 1973, and master of science and doctorate degrees in Physics in 1975 and 1978, respectively.
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For those who collect the Baird's books, what were the sororities present at Stanford from 1968 to 1973? Once known, that will narrow the field considerably.

aopirose 08-16-2006 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by alum
EDUCATION: Graduated from Westlake High School, Los Angeles, California, in 1968; received from Stanford University a bachelor of science in Physics and a bachelor of arts in English in 1973, and master of science and doctorate degrees in Physics in 1975 and 1978, respectively.
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For those who collect the Baird's books, what were the sororities present at Stanford from 1968 to 1973? Once known, that will narrow the field considerably.

None. They returned in 1978.

AGDem 08-16-2006 01:18 AM

Right, but she could have been initiated as an alum.

navane 08-16-2006 01:27 AM

Right, since I mentioned Laurel, but not Sally, I think we've established that she's not a Gamma Phi Beta.

17


.....Kelly :)

AlphaFrog 08-16-2006 07:33 AM

Not an ASA

16.


(Although the Teacher from October Sky is...the actual teacher from the true story, not the actress).

Prunetacos 08-16-2006 07:39 AM

Thanks...and an apology
 
I've Googled "Sally Ride" and "sorority" and no specific sorority pops up, just the fact that she's a member. Most other famous people, their GLO comes right up. I owe an apology to the Ladies of the Golden Key. Wikipedia's entry for notable Kappas has listed Mrs. Campbell as an alum...guess not. Sorry, my mistake.
- Prunetacos

ISUKappa 08-16-2006 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Prunetacos
I've Googled "Sally Ride" and "sorority" and no specific sorority pops up, just the fact that she's a member. Most other famous people, their GLO comes right up. I owe an apology to the Ladies of the Golden Key. Wikipedia's entry for notable Kappas has listed Mrs. Campbell as an alum...guess not. Sorry, my mistake.
- Prunetacos

It doesn't, and hasn't for quite some time. There are guidelines used by those who update the Wikipedia page on who constitutes as notable Kappas. Misinformation is usually quickly deleted or corrected.

MysticCat 08-16-2006 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Prunetacos
BTW - did you know that Mrs. Campbell, of Campbell Soups was a Kappa? Next time you pop open a can of tomato or cream of mushroom soup, check out the fleur-de-lis!
- Prunetacos

Another Greek urban legend. methinks. Why think I so?

Joseph Campbell founded the company in 1869, one year before Kappa was founded. It didn't start making soup until 1897, but the suggestion and process for making soup came from John Dorrence, the nephew of the company's general manager. The can label was suggested by companty exec, Heberton Williams, who derived the red and white label from the Cornell football team. The gold medal on the can is an award from the Paris Exposition. (All of this info can be found at the Campbell website.)

One other thing -- when I googled, it appeared that every Kappa chapter site that mentioned this connection referred to Mrs. Campbell simply as "Mrs. Campbell." Seems like if she really was a Kappa, someone would know her first name. Also seems like she might be mentioned on Kappa's national site, which she is not.

The reality is that fluer-de-lis were common ornaments around the time that the label was designed, and someone probably realized that gold fluer-de-lis complemented the Paris Expo medal nicely.

ETA: Sorry. If I had kept reading I would have seen that this had already been addressed. But I will note that my google search turned up quite a few Kappa chapters perpetuating this Greek urban legend.

dakareng 08-16-2006 10:34 AM

I will confirm that Sally Ride is not a Pi Beta Phi-- our recent issue of the Arrow had a feature that confirmed (or dispelled) myths about famous individuals who are/ were Pi Beta Phi members and the website has a complete listing. We'd be proud to claim Sally Ride, if she really was a member but she isn't.

Since someone else mentioned Suzanne Sugarbaker (you can feel free to duck if you so desire but I'm not throwing anything), she did say she is a Mississippi Beta Pi Phi... that is the chapter at Ole Miss. While she IS a fictional character, the show's use of a trademarked name and accurate identification of a chapter must have been with consent-- the reference is included among the 'facts'. Mrs Parker and Mrs. Wrigley were NOT Pi Phis... their husbands just liked arrows ;)

Prunetacos 08-16-2006 12:20 PM

Local Honorary or service sorority?
 
I wonder if Sally Ride was a member of a local, honorary or service sorority(??) If she were in my GLO, I'd be telling the world!

Piece of trivia - Pat Schroder, congresswoman from Colorado who briefly had an "exploratory" run for President in the Democratic primaries of 1988, was a Chi Omega. (It's in her autobiolgraphy.) Does anybody know what Hillary Clinton was in? I've heard that Bill Clinton was an Alpha Phi Alpha, but not completely sure on that.

tunatartare 08-16-2006 12:22 PM

Bill Clinton is an Alpha Phi Omega.

adpiucf 08-16-2006 12:31 PM

Hillary was not in an NPC sorority

aopirose 08-16-2006 12:57 PM

I think that Hilary is a member of Beta Sigma Phi. IIRC, a co-worker showed me a write up about her in their magazine.

Sister Havana 08-16-2006 01:04 PM

Hillary Clinton is an Honorary Brother of the Alpha Beta Chi (SUNY/Plattsburgh) chapter of Alpha Phi Omega. :D

DeltAlum 08-16-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy
Bill Clinton is an Alpha Phi Omega.

I seem to recall another thread where it was decided that Clinton was not in an undergraduate fraternity, then was a Rhodes Scholar and studied in the UK, but that he might be an honorary Alpha Phi Omega.

Does that seem right to anyone else?

NutBrnHair 08-16-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prunetacos
Piece of trivia - Pat Schroder, congresswoman from Colorado who briefly had an "exploratory" run for President in the Democratic primaries of 1988, was a Chi Omega. (It's in her autobiolgraphy.)

Point of Information:

Pat Schroeder IS (not "was") a Chi Omega. She was initiated into our Pi Beta Chapter at Univ. of Minnesota. She was named a "Woman of Achievement" and gave an outstanding speech at our 1992 Convention.

Sister Havana 08-16-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
I seem to recall another thread where it was decided that Clinton was not in an undergraduate fraternity, then was a Rhodes Scholar and studied in the UK, but that he might be an honorary Alpha Phi Omega.

Does that seem right to anyone else?

Nope. He pledged Alpha Phi Omega, Mu Alpha (Georgetown) chapter as an undergraduate.

TSteven 08-16-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dakareng
Mrs Parker and Mrs. Wrigley were NOT Pi Phis... their husbands just liked arrows ;)

Well shut my mouth! I personally have been passing those rumors around for well over twenty-five years. Now in my defense, I was never corrected otherwise on my so called "knowledge of famous Pi Phis" by either family or friends who *are* Pi Phis.

dakareng 08-16-2006 03:14 PM

Don't feel bad... you aren't the only one to play the telephone game with misinformation that some creative person dreamt years ago. I seem to remember sisters collecting Parker pens just because of the arrow clips on them. The piece in the Arrow is the first time I've seen it in writing that it's a myth, although I'd heard it from our Archivist when we were surfing chapter websites.

TSteven 08-16-2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dakareng
Don't feel bad... you aren't the only one to play the telephone game with misinformation that some creative person dreamt years ago. I seem to remember sisters collecting Parker pens just because of the arrow clips on them. The piece in the Arrow is the first time I've seen it in writing that it's a myth, although I'd heard it from our Archivist when we were surfing chapter websites.

I do believe that every Pi Phi at Kentucky had a Parker pen and chewed - never in public mind you - Wrigley gum.

dekeguy 08-16-2006 05:49 PM

Well, Mrs. Wrigley may not have been a Pi Phi, but Mr. William W. Wrigley was a DEKE. My Pi Phi sister smugly tells me that DEKES tend to naturally gravitate toward Pi Phis (unless of course they happen to be insufferable older sisters) so who knows, she might have been a Pi Phi wannabe, or perhaps pledged but did not initiate...

LuvUTrulyKKG 08-16-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat81
Another Greek urban legend. methinks. Why think I so?

Joseph Campbell founded the company in 1869, one year before Kappa was founded. It didn't start making soup until 1897, but the suggestion and process for making soup came from John Dorrence, the nephew of the company's general manager. The can label was suggested by companty exec, Heberton Williams, who derived the red and white label from the Cornell football team. The gold medal on the can is an award from the Paris Exposition. (All of this info can be found at the Campbell website.)

One other thing -- when I googled, it appeared that every Kappa chapter site that mentioned this connection referred to Mrs. Campbell simply as "Mrs. Campbell." Seems like if she really was a Kappa, someone would know her first name. Also seems like she might be mentioned on Kappa's national site, which she is not.

The reality is that fluer-de-lis were common ornaments around the time that the label was designed, and someone probably realized that gold fluer-de-lis complemented the Paris Expo medal nicely.

ETA: Sorry. If I had kept reading I would have seen that this had already been addressed. But I will note that my google search turned up quite a few Kappa chapters perpetuating this Greek urban legend.


Kappa Kappa Gamma Headquarters (and more specifically, the women in charge of technology) have been trying to fix the chapter websites. However, due to yearly officer turnover, graduation, and neglect of sites, "Mrs. Campbell" is still mentioned on chapter sites.

sdsuchelle 08-17-2006 03:35 AM

Okay, so I did some research.

Wikipedia states that Sally Ride was born in 1951, and she attended Swarthmore College for awhile but then recieved her BA from Stanford.

So, I'm assuming she was an undergrad around 1969-1973.

Both Swarthmore and Stanford did not have sororities at that time. Both Stanford and Swarthmore abolished them in the 40's, and Stanford did not allow sororities back on campus until 1977.

It seems, maybe, that Sally Ride was never a sorority member at all. These kinds of rumors tend to perpetuate... I mean, I'm constantly hearing that Michelle Pfieffer was an ADPi, but she was never initiated.

DeltAlum 08-17-2006 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sdsuchelle
These kinds of rumors tend to perpetuate...

They sure do.

Maybe it was Michelle Pfieffer who left her badge on the moon...

AlphaFrog 08-17-2006 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
They sure do.

Maybe it was Michelle Pfieffer who left her badge on the moon...


And does that mean that Catwoman is an ADPi??;) :p

tunatartare 08-17-2006 09:21 AM

I'm still waiting for some sorority to claim Cleopatra as a famous member. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say she's a Sigma Kappa because of the snakes.

MysticCat 08-17-2006 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy
I'm still waiting for some sorority to claim Cleopatra as a famous member. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say she's a Sigma Kappa because of the snakes.

True, but Phi Sigma Sigma has that whole Sphinx thing going.

Maybe they should both claim her and fight it out. :D

tunatartare 08-17-2006 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat81
True, but Phi Sigma Sigma has that whole Sphinx thing going.

Maybe they should both claim her and fight it out. :D

I heard she left her badge on the moon. They should send someone up there to see which one it is.

Prunetacos 08-17-2006 12:16 PM

Chi O's Pat Schroder
 
I regret that I used the past tense ("was") rather than the present tense ("is") of the verb when describing the relationship of former Congresswoman Pat Schroder to Chi Omega.

I sometimes be English not write so goodly.
- Prunetacos

Prunetacos 08-17-2006 12:24 PM

Mrs. Campbell and KKG
 
By the way, a search of websites turns up dozens of references (including Baylor and U of Kentucky KKG chapters) to Mrs. Campbell and Kappa.

ISUKappa 08-17-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Prunetacos
By the way, a search of websites turns up dozens of references (including Baylor and U of Kentucky KKG chapters) to Mrs. Campbell and Kappa.

As someone already pointed out earlier, the Fraternity's Web team is working on correcting that information on chapter websites, but with officer turnover and limited womanpower, it is a difficult task.

Just because it's on some chapter's site on teh intarweb doesn't mean it's true.


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