Word.

LMAO!!!!:D

Unknown2U-

Since you like to read so much, why don't you do some research on the number of people who are in the church as ministers or evangelists. Then, see how many of them are greek. After you pick your jaw off the floor, look into the many charitable organizations that we as greeks involve our time and money into. Can you do this? NO. Furthermore, you probably have a bone to pick with the Masons and O.E.S. members as well, but that's your fight.

I hope that you get out of your prayer closet more and step into the light. We as members of greek letter organizations do a lot more than what you as an outsider sees. Don't get it confused. We wear our jackets, letters, and decorate our homes, but until you become God, you can't see our hearts.

Please don't send a collection plate around either.:D I can tell it's going there.

he referred me, lol

I hate you starang!!!!!

unknown2u, first, please learn what proof-texting is and how to avoid it. Statements in the Bible do not necessarily mean what you may think they mean. Second, get out of the intellect and into the nature of God. You don't understand.

Then you should take those raunchy pics down.

Well the bottom line is that you can believe what you want to believe and continue to justify sin. But just know that with sin comes curses...

I will continue to pray for all of you. Cause thats the only thing to do.

I've tried to avoid reading this thread because y'all know I can lose my religion when I get offended. I'm only 5 years old in the Lord, my heathen slips out from time to time. But it kept getting bumped, so I gave it a gander. After reading the very first post, not only was I not offended, I was actually touched. Not many people have the nerve to be that bold with their opinions. Furthermore, I just had this same discussion at a church conference a couple of weeks ago. I was sick of faking like the hot Christian and decided to work towards actually being one, which is why I decided to quit smoking at the aformentioned conference (not in the Bible directly, but still not a good habit for my temple). So I was onboard, I agreed with 99% of the stuff said. Well, maybe 98.5%. Somewhere in there. I was really about to co-sign till the rest of the thread came through. And after 4 pages of this I only have 2 things to attest to:

1) I kinda fell off the wagon after reading the subsequent posts by the thread starter. I was with her in the beginning but bits of contradiction and unhealthy spirits started to slip into the messages. Plus, it's never wise to jump on a message you're not 100% with, so I'm sorry Thelma, but this is one Louise who is gettin' out the car.

2) I want to thank everybody here for giving me a good laugh. Now it wasn't nice to be clownin' this girl left and right, SHE DID NOT DESERVE A LOT OF THE DISRESPECT SHE GOT. But (excuse me Lord) I have been cracking up for a good 10 minutes and I needed that. Shoot, my dog just died, I needed that laugh now more than I have all summer. Plus, I'm listening to the Trapped in the Closet 1-12, so I only read what I could between falling on the floor over the midget in the cabinet, so forgive me if I missed the finer details of the thread.

Yes, yes...those of you who joined GLOs and are divorced better watch out.

"Nino Brown!!! Your soul is requested in hellllllllllll!!!!!" *gunshot*

Christiangirl, I applaud you for becoming a Christian!! The Lord accepts ALL that turn their lives over to him. I will pray that you can stay off the "heathen path" and continue to discover your way with the Lord.

With that said, I must tell you that you should take everything that you hear from people attempting to minister to you with a grain of salt. The reason that unknown2u is being "clowned" (as you say) is because this thread has been brought up before AND people have previously stated their opinions to her. True, everyone is welcome to their opinion and welcome to participate in discussion, but there are limitations. From what I see, there are several DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Ask yourself: Why hasn't unknown2u taken this show on the road to condemn the NPC/IFC/NIC groups about being Greek? Why are NPHC groups being targeted for being Greek and hazing? Why hasn't the message of premarital sex, divorce and all other ungodly things been spread across the masses? If you are TRULY attempting to minister, do you only minister to some people? Are their souls "more saved" than ours? Things that make you go hmmm......

Don't fall victim to people who attempt to force their beliefs on you. Life is a learning experience.

As a new Christian you must especially wary of those who cloak their personal vendettas in the Word. THAT is ungodly.:(

I appreciate the warnings, but I am in no danger of being misled, I assure you. All she did was speak her piece and that's fine with me. Sometimes, you just feel the need to repeat things (as backward as they may be). But honestly, I don't think she deserved such a big reaction out of everybody. Firstly, a lot of it seemed to be out of trying to humiliate her rather than humble her (just an observation). Second, because she is ONE person with MANY opinions. If her opinions turned to accusations with no grounds, then you knew better than to believe her, so what's the big deal? No one has enough power to get so many people worked up unless they're given it. Who ever she's talking about are some messed up people, but I know that not all Greeks are like that and not all Christians are like that. This thread doesn't change my opinion of either. All this thread did was lighten up the stressful week I've had. :D

Cool. Happy that you could get a good laugh after losing your dog. :(

Nevermind :confused: :confused: :(

Are we eating dinner in the fellowship hall after chuch services?

I'll bring the chicken and biscuits.

I just have a few questions and I'm being for real...

1.) Were you upset with me because of...

a. the message that divorce and other sins are contrary to the will of God? (Although I have scriptures to prove it) And that taking part of sin is a way of worshipping the devil.( get out of your minds that you have to bow down to the devil or wear gothic clothing to be considered glorifying his kingdom.)

Let me make this clear that I never doomed anyone to hell. You see because God WILL forgive anyone of their sins if they repent. So I cannot tell people you are going to hell. I'm just saying that taking part of these things is sin and that you should repent of those sins. Once you are saved you are covered by His blood, so heaven is your home. But don't create problems and pain on your life or the life of your children by starting generational curses. Now if you don't believe that divorce, premarital sex, drunkeness and the list can go on, are sins then we shouldnt be arguing because clearly we are standing on two different platforms.

b.) RD are you upset because others have discussed this message before?? (because Noah, Moses, Jesus and others have preached the same message without ceasing and continued to preach as long as others were still living in sin.)

RedefinedDiva- You claim that you are tired of all these posts being about the same things. But yet you read and comment on all of them. My mom used to say if you don't like the heat stay outta the kitchen. If you don't agree and are tired of these message then don't read the threads and call it a day. But i think that something in your spirit is continuing to draw you these threads, and even though you lash out on what I say, you know there is a lot of truth to these words. Don't worry God is still working on you and He still loves you girl :) :D :p

c. Someone made the good point about not going to other NIP/IFC/NPC boards and preaching this message. Well the truth is I don't know about the other processes or what they do or their rituals so I can't speak to them. Is being apart of a fraternity or sorority sin...NO!! I know members who are apart of honors fraternities and service sororities. Its not being a member thats wrong, its ENGAGING IN ACTIVITIES IN ORDER TO GAIN THIS MEMBERSHIP is what I consider wrong. And I have a problem with the organizations that base membership of making people do unethical things. I know this to be true, so somebody please dont be a liar and say that they have never done anything unethical to become apart of their group. Unless you were paper...

Also dont think that my messages starts and ends here. Everything I have said I have said on other message boards and to other people. People know where i stand and what i believe.


My concern is why did everyone get hostile? Are you upset with the message or the messanger? All that I said came from the Bible. I can understand if unsaved members get upset because their hearts are not tuned to hear. But some of yall who claim to be saved challenged me on what the Bible said?!?!?! If you are upset with what I said take it up with God because He wrote it in His book.

Christiangirl, I love you and God bless you. You have made an awesome decision to follow Christ. If there was anything that I said that you did not agree with or was discouraging to you please let me know in a PM. I do not mind explaining myself, my motives or my purpose to anyone who is genuinely concerned.

I also read another thread where my name came up as a joke, someone claiming i diguised myself as an AKA to sell products on EBAY :confused:. The jokes and name calling doesn't offend me one bit. But again I ask...why? Something I am saying is getting under your skin.

I must first state that I am not upset. You can't upset me with these same messages. I am just confused as to why it continues to be rehashed.... I read and respond to threads for the same reason that you do: they entertain and interest me. As you can see, from your time of being GC, we have fun around here. It's like "What's new today?" Your posts, here and abroad, are like watching a train wreck....especially when you appear to desire the very thing that you smite. (Marinate on that) Besides, as a future attorney, I know that all facts aren't what they appear to be on their face....

Secondly, thank you for reminding me that God loves me! But I already know. He tells me and shows me everyday.

Hmmm.... paper v. pledging....

As I was the person who asked the question, I wonder WHY, when you were doing all this research on greeks and processes, you didn't research all greeks. It would be extremely foolish of me to think that you were that sheltered to NOT know that some of the above mentioned orgs. haze its PLEDGES, as in persons who are ENGAGING IN ACTIVITIES IN ORDER TO GAIN MEMBERSHIP. Please.... Don't play games. Their acts of hazing are more on the news than the ones you are comdemning in BGLOs.

In case you still want to pretend that you have never heard of such "unethical" behavior occuring outside of BGLOs, here is a sampling of articles for you to further your "research":
Article 1
Article 2
Article 3
Article 4
Article 5
Article 6
Article 7

Let me know if you need more! There are PLENTY where they came from. When should I expect to see the thread over in Chit Chat? Or are you willing to prove your hypocrisy and admit that we are being singled out?

Again, your interpretation.

Do search on her username, read some of her other posts and you will see why she got "clowned".

I also read another thread where my name came up as a joke, someone claiming i diguised myself as an AKA to sell products on EBAY :confused:. The jokes and name calling doesn't offend me one bit. But again I ask...why? Something I am saying is getting under your skin.[/QUOTE]


That was my posting. I also had some others that you can read too. You aren't getting under my skin honey. I have four children, a husband, I teach school and I am working on my master's degree. Oh, I am an ACTIVE member in my sorority and I teach sunday school and direct the church choir. You might be thinking what the relevance of my answer is and I'll tell you; YOU DON'T KNOW ME or anyone else on this gc board to banish someone into hell. For all we know, your name might not be on the roll.;) We come to gc for educated conversation, insights into politics and world views, but most of all to socialize with fellow sorors and sister greeks to encourage and NOT JUDGE eachother.

We are not attacking you, just trying to educate you. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I suggest from now on you just post a daily meditation for everyone to read and interpret for themselves and log off. If you want to preach on gc, start a thread called the "AMEN CORNER" in your own little space and if people want to be damned to hell they can go there and communicate.

I don't recall being hostile, but posts like this one have me confused.

unknown2u
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: I love Jesus because He first loved me.
Posts: 128

^^^ I am not trying to fight you this but just hear me out...

How does Satan get the glory from BGLOs?? I am not speaking about Masons or OES cause I don't know too much about their beliefs. But how does an organization that is committed to service and scholarship. An organization that stands on Christian principles. An organization that encourages members to have Bible study and go to church. Be led by Satan?? How is Satan winning from this group?? I am not a BGLO but all the people who I have met that have been apart of BGLO's are Christians and sometimes better Christians than people who are NOT in these organizations.

Again I am not trying to argue or fight you on this. I am a Christian too and the Bible says not to get in quarrelsome arguments, but just answer the questions without posting the same scriptures over and over.

Did all of those people you met change after your bad experience as an interest? :confused: I understand if you gained some insight into the organization that made you change your opinion, but what happend to those Christians?

It just hit me unknown2u, if you are so adament about the awful treatment you received by ABC sorority, I find it unusual that you are a subscriber to GREEK chat and that you go on GREEK threads and post. I don't know, but you seem kinda bitter to me. Secretly you know you want to be in a greek organization and for whatever reason, you can't so you have chosen to damn all of us greeks to a life of fiery hell. I'm just saying; think about it.

Again i never damned anyone to the fiery pits of hell, but if you want to continue to believe that then fine. again your words are not directed to me if you have issues with the truth then take it up with God.:D

RD: You sound like a child that gets in trouble then blaims the teacher for not getting on the others. What does it matter if I go to the GLO and preach to them. Does that excuse your behavior? Does that make it any better as to what you do? It seems like you want to justify your actions by pointing out the mistakes that everyone else is doing. If you are taking part of these things then so be it the truth will set you free. If not then why are you pressed on it??

Pinkies: Again to you, I applaud all of the many wonderful things you said about yourself. However, read my posts again, if what i said does not apply to then I must asks why are you pressed???

And no i do not desire to be apart of a BGLO. I had the oppurtunity to do it and I decided to quit. That was my choice. Don't think that everyone envies you because we don't. There is absolutely nothing that you can because you are in org that I can't do. I am not pressed about letters and colors. That is so trivial when it comes to real life. Greek Life will not help me graduate college (in fact my grades are better than those in these organizations), it will not get me a great job, and the most important thing is that it will not get me into heaven or any great recognition from my Heavenly Father. So other than that its trivial.

You all have used everything in the book to try to de-value the truth of what i said. You have made excuses, comparisons, even pulled up old threads to go against my credibility, used humor and the whole nine. But guess what? The truth and the message are still the same, and it wont change. And if i have to come back and rehash the topic then i will. There is nothing you can say that will change my heart or spirit so continue to waste breathe and time combating the truth or you could just learn to repent and do better.

God Bless You All:D :D
As Christians, I expect us to do better!!;)

Sweetie, PLEASE....

I am simply pointing out what YOU said. You come on here blasting Greeks for their actions, yet you REFUSE to address ALL Greeks. Then, when presented with evidence, you use tactics to divert attention away from what YOU said. Thus, you are doing exactly what you are on here arguing with us for doing. You claim that we are denying evidence that you present, yet, you are guilty of the same actions. Why is that???

Please believe that I don't need EXCUSES for anything that I do. I'm straight. Additionally, I don't give a dayum about what other orgs. do during their processes. YOU said that you have a problem with GREEKS who use hazing as a way to gain admittance to the org. Just like you roll through dropping Bible verses, I gave you some articles to check out. Yet, you get defensive and try to dodge the obvious.

If you are really trying to save souls, save the souls of EVERYONE. That would be the righteous thing to do. Jesus was not selective in who he ministered to. Don't just single out Black Greeks when you claim to have a problem with the entire system. Skin color makes no difference. If it does to YOU, that's another problem in and of itself. Because right now, you are showing your hypocrisy and sounding like a woman scorned more and more each day. I just want you to stand by your words. If you can't or won't do that, fine. Nobody's perfect. You don't have to be afraid to admit that you aren't. No one will be angry with you. But, don't come in with the "holier than thou" attitude while you walk the same line.

That is all.

And no i do not desire to be apart of a BGLO. I had the oppurtunity to do it and I decided to quit. That was my choice. Don't think that everyone envies you because we don't. There is absolutely nothing that you can because you are in org that I can't do. I am not pressed about letters and colors. That is so trivial when it comes to real life. Greek Life will not help me graduate college (in fact my grades are better than those in these organizations), it will not get me a great job, and the most important thing is that it will not get me into heaven or any great recognition from my Heavenly Father. So other than that its trivial.-unknown2u



If it was so trivial, why did you even consider joining? I'm not at all "pressed". I just find it hillarious that someone who finds being a part of a greek organization "trivial" is a subscriber to GREEK chat and is often cruising through the GREEK threads. I have not used anything to de-value anything about you; you're doing that yourself.

unspokenone/unknown2u/whatever

RE: your sig.

Girl you are WACK! :eek:

The siggie is giving me a headache. Really.

As hard as you tried to make a hypocrite outta me, I posted my thoughts on a general thread so all can see not just BGLO but other GLO too on Greek Life. I would have posted in each and every thread so you wouldnt feel like i was picking on a certain group but then I figure that everyone on this board reads the same thing.
You were right, I shouldnt select one group. However, by posting on another board the message doesnt change the message and the points still remain the same. I also posted my comments on myspace, facebook and yahoo groups. Unfortunetly, I can't preach to the whole world, im just one little person, but i know the few that I did reach is a great start. I hope you now realized that the truth doesnt change and I am not afraid to speak to anyone. Im not really sure what you were trying to prove but then again I don't understand a lot of what you do.:D :D
Anywhoo be blessed or be cursed whichever one you decide

^^^heheheheh

Thank you very much. That is all I ask of you. You should be aware now, after a year, that people who regularly post over in the general threads don't venture here often. Neither do most of us go there often. You should know that. Your first thread and posts were over there and you didn't get many NPHC Greek responses. But, I am glad that you have spread the word.

And you being only one person should not matter. It only takes one person to effect change.

By the way, where on facebook, myspace, and yahoo is your message posted? I would like to read the responses of others outside of the GC setting. That is if you don't mind sharing....

Of course i dont mind sharing!
My myspace name is NLUVWIDDAKING

facebook (well my name is Sasha and I dont want to give out my last name but I am in Cali) I can PM you the facebook information.

Yahoo groups is USCGREEKCONNECTION, but this group is private. It was for members and interests. At the time when i was interest I was apart of this group. Ill give you more details if you genuinely want to know.

Can't find your myspace page... Do you have a direct link.

Didn't see the Yahoo!Group either....

This is where it all went wrong...

Soror-twin always makes me smile! :D

Greetings to all the lovely ladies...Greek/Non-Greek
 

Props to ya unknown for boldness on behalf of the body of Christ.

I am a young, male college student aspiring to be Greek. I am also a christian. I was a christian before I was a greek 'prospeKt'. Therefore I know who I am in Christ and live thereby. I am a true believer, an avid follower of christ, and a fervent student of the word. I have also done seemingly Too Much research on greeks. Nevertheless, the more I research, the more interested I become.

Sin or "devil worship" is everywhere as we all (greek/non-greek) kno. It is even more prevelant now than ever before. However I think its a lil unfair to make general attacks and accusations toward the greek kommunity in a greekchat forum. That's klearly not the way to reach people. As christians, we strive to be Christ-like. Wit dat said, Christ didn't use attacks in His minisitry, it was kwite the kontrary. Obviously, and from my experience in witnessin, people will only turn a deaf ear while kontroversary is sparked. I kould say a lot more about a lot more but I tend to engage not in foolish conversation.

Oh wow @ your "k" usage.:eek: :(

^I'm a little confused, with a C.

unknown2u, I don't agree with everything you said, but I believe that you are trying to reach out with your experience of the truth, and I respect that. As sisters, it is very hard to figure out our responsibility to speak the truth in love and to address brokenness within the body. From what I've seen, message boards are just never effective in doing that. Whether you are or not, people will feel attacked, condemned to hell, and looked down upon. Contrary to popular belief, Jesus quite often criticized and condemned people, but Jesus knew exactly who he was talking to and everything they had ever and would ever think or do. Unsolilcited internet witnessing between sinners doesn't work out that way.

girl, you and me both..the boldness of some folks:rolleyes:

I guess Delta Tau Mu is a co-ed organization.:p