while I agree with the thread starter to a certain extent, where we may diverge, is I feel like, even before pledging an nphc frat, aux are WACK!!!, the greater issue is affiliating yourself with an org that is not nationally recognized. That's like pledging the "yard" or "ghost"... it's like Harold Melving w/o the bluenotes...YOU'LL NEVER GO PLATINUM! :D

:confused: :eek: *DEAD*

Why do people do this? :rolleyes: :mad: I mean, I think most ppl are on here for the same reasons....BOREDOM AND TO MAKE THE WORK DAY GO BY FASTER! This is a topic he found interesting, not necessarily pressed over it, so he put it out there to get the opinions of others, not to be pressed about what someone else is doing, just as all of us have, on SEVERAL occassions including you [I couldn't help but notice you have 678 posts]! And should you decide to consider adding my name to the "pressed train" because I looked and at the thread and saw the number of posts you've made, please refrain from doing so, because you, based on posts, out number me by FAR!! you've had nearly 700 since Dec 2003, I've had just over 100 since May of 2001.

Well, I'm sure he does once he leaves GREEKCHAT.com this is a GREEK message board joint, meaning people are going to discuss GREEK issues, among others. So if it were me, and I didn't want to hear anything GREEK, I'd probably go to a board not entitled GREEKCHAT.COM, or anything with the word GREEK in it!

^^^Great...We're right here^^^

Which is probably why you feel the way you do--and that's okay. But for regular posters we understand that what is posted in one thread may be a carryover from other threads and a poster's history.

yeah, BOTH on PRESSED street!! LMAO :D

o shoot, let's stop talking, otherwise I'll be "sweatin' the Kappas" since we're here, or wait, I got it, you are "sweatin' the Deltas" now? you must be, because you said "we're here".....why else would you say it?! You couldn't possibly be just acknowledging we share an opinion. smh it's a darn shame! :confused: :(

I feel that, and maybe i'm missing something here, since I don't follow his, or anyone's posts that closely. But, on the other hand, I see it ALL the time, not just on here but other greek message boards, people act like you can't have an opinion that differs from theirs without one of the following being the cause:

1. If you have something bad to say about another's org, it's because you got rejected :rolleyes: [maybe you just think it sucks, or yours is better which is really why you chose yours in the first place...come on people, I refuse to believe that everyone who thinks bad about a certain org, including Delta, feel that way because they were rejected, so using this theory, we must basically live on the premise that NO ONE is a member of the org of their first choice....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO] or

2. You're pressed because you started or responded to a topic someone feels isn't important [but they are EQUALLY as "pressed" or care as much, in the opposite end of the spectrum, if they took time and responded to tell you you're pressed and you shouldn't care]

Why do people carry "message board" baggage? I can think of many times where I will be in total agreeance with a person on one thread, and we could be in total disagreeance on another. I think peolpe need to mature and not take things so personally, if you and a person don't agree in one thread, let it stay in the thread, why form a personal vendetta to seek out and destroy anything they may say in any other thread?! But such is life, people will say what they like, but they need NOT get mad if they get called out for being wet blankets.


Just for clarification Soror Ladygreek, let's go over something Jub said [assuming this is to whom you're referring]. Ok, she said ""it's not about swaying someone's opinion, it's about realizing that everyone makes their own choices, and just because some choices "something different you" :confused: it doesn't make their choice "wrong" or "backward" or anything else."""

OK, please see #1 above, now she has it CORRECT, everyone does make their own choices, but does this not apply equally to everyone? Or does it only apply to choices that SHE thinks are ok or don't warrant a thread being started? I mean this dude made a choice to start a thread, and in HER words, ""it does not make his choice "wrong" or "backward" or anything else."" It just makes him a person who wants to get the opinions of others on this topic. And I'm all ok with replying and saying things like well it's not "backwards" [which is answering the question, since he did all ask a question, interrogative, not just out right DECLARE it is backwards] but to call him pressed and base it on the fact that people can do what they choose, that's hypocritical, because he is a person, at least I assume he is, so he can choose too. When you respond, you open up to have responses posted to what you said, and if they're in the contrary, why make personal attacks? Most people, to me, on here don't come off as trying to "sway opinions", just give you theirs, and the biggest thing a person can do is understand the opposition, and actually the best, not saying you have to agree, or even like it, but understand the reasoning behind it, without going to the typical greek mantras, listed above. Reasons for divergence go far beyond the two aforementioned. I'm not saying that they are never the case, what I'm saying is that they aren't ALWAYS the case, and anyone who feels like either of those two are the answers for everything have SO much growing and MATURING to do!

^^^^Wow. Using another overused MB term--It's not that serious. :D

you are ABSOLUTELY correct! NOTHING on a message board "is that serious", but instead of having my tourettes kicking in and unwarrantedly "stating random claims" I just explained my position. Must be the doctoral candidate/future attorney in me!

:D ...

Daymn!! No what am I gonna do w/ this 11 cents.
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jesus what a long thread

I think it's backwards, but hey like Jadakiss said, knock ya self out

I got an interesting backward situtation for you...it was told to me that a friend of mine that is in ABC org wants to pledge...now if you read that last line right..she came in the paper way and now wants to go online after becoming a member of ABC org...now help me out here is that backwards...I truly think that is pledging backwards...let me know:confused:

I've heard of post-pledging. To each it's own. I thunk if you are going to do it, let it be immediately after crossing. Don't wait 1 - 5 yrs later. Even though all that time post pledging could be spent on making a difference in the chapter implementing programs, etc. JMO

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I think its always better to pledge before crossing than after, because if you pledge after you have that thought in the back of your mind that you already have the org on paper so at any time if you "can't take it anymore," you can simply walk away and still have something as opposed to the latter. At the same time though, post pledging is better than not pledging at all, to me.

yeah i knew a dude that had the chance to pledge along with a line. he dropped line thinking that he din't need to pledge and he already had his letters. in the end he couldn't stand being referred to as 'that paper kappa' so he ended up pledging by himself...took a whole let of wood too from what i heard lol

That is backwards for real. I guess. I've known ppl who went grad and hopped on undergrad lines. THAT"S BACKWARD!!! To be 36 locked up w/ a 18 year old freshman.

^^ I somewhat agree, but if you joined a grad chapter since no chapter was available thru undergrad (suspension, inactive, or not chartered at the time u were UG), would you go thru the pledge process so you can say you did it? to get the "true" bond of sisterhood/brotherhood? some folx say don't matter as long as u pay your dues and doing what the founders of your org expect you to do... while others say you didn't "earn" them so don't "fake the funk" to speak... I agree with both sides of the fence and although I'm not greek and my opinion might not mean much, I find the debate very interesting :)

happy labour day weekend y'all!!!

I know someone who did that and had the nerve to probate like she was really down or something.. tsk tsk

:eek: I hope you all had popcorn. That had to be pure comedy!

I actually missed that fine event and was told that it was a HOT BURNT MESS and people were booing...

I went to school with an AKA who crossed AKA and Kappa sweetheart the same day. She crossed AKA that day, then Kappa sweetheart that night. I thought that was too funny.:D

ok i know absolutely nothing about the sweethearts other than what i witnessed on campus, BUT don't you have to disown your sweetheart status to become a member of any sorority?

Not at Wilberforce University. Central State is a little different. I've never seen a sweetheart in a sorority there.

LOL. I remember a Delta Gent came to a Kappa interest meeting, and we sent him home as soon as he took his seat. We told him flat out that he would never get voted on at DZ being a Gent of a sorority. Maybe at some other chapter, but not at DZ.

I too would wonder about her motives for doing that- maybe she's sweet on a Kappa!:) Now, post-pledging that is sooo backward!

One of the two processes had to be KAT and I would hate to guess which one:confused: . Or she was probably one tuff cookie!!!:p

Hey Nupe, I'm not trying to get anything started, but rumor had it on campus that she pledged harder to be Kappa Sweethheart, than AKA. AKA's, don't attack me. I'm just telling him about a rumor on campus at the time. Well anyway, I asked her about it, and she told me she pledged hard to be an AKA, but I knew at the time the AKAs were coming down hard on the hazing and they were strictly intake only. I also knew she was pledging Kappa Sweetheart before she started AKA. To me those Sweeheart organizations are a waste of time.

Nupe, if you met her, she wasn't a tuff cookie. She's as soft as drug store cotton. To me.

Wow!:eek: I guess...She told on herself. I've never heard of a paper sweet. That just doesn't make any sense. So I assumed that was the case, IN THIS CASE!!! Well she just graduated and has been certified as 100% pure MESS!!!:D

LOL. LOL. :D Nupe, I went to visit her in her dorm room and I saw Kappa Sweetheart stuff and AKA stuff with the same crossing dates on them. I was like.....damn. LOL