Same with Miss PR. She's got a rack - husband suspects it's fake, though I think she's 18 and just perky still - but it doesn't look nearly as huge in her bikini.

http://www.diarioextra.com/2006/juli...s/nac05kos.jpg

Methinks the tapers did a real good job for the chain dress.

A large number of the women are models to begin with.

I agree. I've always thought it was way ugly. Diamonds would be prettier than pearls.

I think the pearls are too big for it. They look almost fake. Smaller ones might be nicer and classier. Then again, this is the Donald we're talking about.

I still like the old crown of yester-year:
http://www.sachacosmetics.com/images...ndycrown_2.jpg
Sure, it was gaudy and over the top, but really, isn't that what pageantry is all about?

Miss USA was petite for a pageant contestant. In the non-pageant world, she is average height.

Where were the plus-size contestants?

NOWHERE.

TRAGIC.

Does it really matter how tall she is?

Exactly. In any case, I brought up the plus=positive; petite=negative POV because that's what I've been feeling. I've seen tons of talk shows and magazine shows that discuss plus-sized women and how they are proud to be plus, but it seems to be the opposite for petite women. Even short celebrities rarely bring up their height. TRAGIC, don't you think?

incredibly

You raise an interesting point, valkyrie. In a recent edition of a Vancouver paper, a writer interviewed Nazanin Afshin-Jam (she is Persian ethnicity) who represented Canada at Miss World a few years back and came in 1st R.U. (i.e. not Miss Universe)
http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=19177

Anyhow, Nazanin made a very good point that "“Nowadays, youth don’t listen to politicians, they listen to stars.”
So I think there is something to be said for using one's God-given looks to one's advantage. Hell, Angelina Jolie gets paid bazzillions of dollars for pretending to be someone she is not (i.e. acting).

Oh well....<shrug>

IMO the Miss Universe pageant is almost completely a beauty pageant. The charity work the winner does is *just* enough for them to say "I do charity work. Yay!" For the most part, they are supposed to just sit there and look pretty. That is all.

Get off your high horse already. (or would that be low horse?)

LMAO about the "low horse" comment...
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...............

People have been saying how they can see contestants' ribcages, meaning that these girls are really, really slim, which is why I brought up height. These girls are really, really slim and for the most part, extremely tall. People are always criticizing the media for having few average or larger sized people, yet they rarely say anything about short people and fashion. So once again, why is it all right for plus sized women to be loud and proud about their size and criticizing the media about the lack of their people while it isn't okay for me to do so? I'm sure that if I was a size 14, then you'll all be applauding me for my site, my signature and my posts.

I just had to laugh at that picture of the horse...

I thought Ms. Puerto Rico, while a beautiful girl, looked like a tramp in that dress! It didn't scream "take me seriously" it screamed "take me to bed"

I was pulling for Ms. Japan, i thought she was beautiful but when she messed up her question, I cringed

My friend has competed in the Miss America preliminaries, but has not won the Miss Missouri or Illinois yet, the ones she needs to go TO Miss America and she has a very LOW opinion of Miss USA/Miss Universe pagents. Their history was much more commercial than Miss America's.

Normally I try to stay out of the GC fray but I have to say for the love of all that's good and pure..... STOP TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE PETITE THING!!!!!" :eek: :eek: :eek: I wanted to talk about the pageant, the dresses, the bad answers to the interview questions, all the stuff that's fun about a pageant. The discussion about Miss America didn't turn into a rant. This one shouldn't either. There are already threads on GC that deal with the woes of being petite. Let keep those woes in that thread!!! If we want to talk about height, let's be in awe of their height (I mean, I am just FLOORED at how many broke the 6'0" mark!).

In conclusion: there are plenty of women how win pageants in this country and others who are not tall. I competed for years and got beat by plenty of people who were not as tall as me. Even with their heels on and mine off I still towered over them. It all comes down to the presentation!! And that's what is really the fun part to talk about!

I now step off of my soapbox... we may now return to the regularly scheduled programing. :D

ETA: for those who have already said something similar to this, I say thank you. If I tick anybody off I apologize. I just got a little pissed that this thread was being hickjacked about a topic not even remotely close to what the thread was about.

Plus it was smooshing and weighing her boobs down in a really weird and painful-looking way. I didn't watch the pageant, so I don't know if her dress was like that the whole time. But the one picture that was posted on the previous page of this thread made me go "Oww!".

Watched the pageant and got to watch project runway last night.

When I saw the pageant I absolutely loved the dress Tara wore. It complemented her figure and her body color nicely. She looked gorgeous in it. After having watched the show, she definately picked the best dress to wear for the competition.

As for wearing another dress, they have the preliminaries, she probably wore a red dress for the the pre-lims and was saving this one for the actual competition.

I personally thought she was robbed. Her answers on the final two questions were amazing, but she got fourth. Yet, Japan, who didn't even answer her questions correctly (ie. she didn't answer what she was actually asked) made it to 1st runner up. WTF?!? That makes absolutely no sense to me.

I thought Puerto Rico's dress was absolutely hideous. I'm sorry as a judge I'd be looking at the dress and how they carry the dress off and what it looks like as a factor. Because let's face it they are all beautiful women so "looks" really can't be a determining factor. I mean during the swimsuit I was actually looking at how they were carrying themselves and if they looked like they actually ate.

I think this is probably why I appreciate the Miss America pageant more, because they do more interview questions, a talent portion and the girls recieve scholarships to continue their education.

Question (because I'm to lazy to look for the Miss USA thread), is Tara greek?

The whole Miss USA circuit has cut the interview portion to counting for very very little. It's all about the evening gown etc.

Why do some of the evening gowns in the pagents have to be so tacky looking? We all remember (or most of us) remember Miss Ohio's dress. The dress was so trashy. I liked Miss Japan's dress. Miss Switzerland's dress looks like what Elle Woods would wear. But, Miss Puerto Rico's dress, I'm sorry that that looks horrible.

I love Miss Japan's costume. I'm glad that she won for Best Costume. I think that she was robbed for Miss Universe, IMO.

Dude. I am a size 14. I don't want to see somebody my size in a beauty pageant. It's not hot.

OK, seriously, there's a HUGE difference between weight and height. See if you can follow...

Women and girls are not killing themselves trying to become TALLER!!!!!!!!!!

We criticize the media and applaud women of "normal" weight because women and girls are starving themselves TO DEATH to try to be thinner.

It's not about pretty and fairness and what is attractive. It's a life and death issue. The worst you can do trying to become taller is break an ankle or something because your stilettos were too high!

HAHAHAHAHA Aye yo GeePeezy. How tall are you. I can get you to go down few sizes. Just follow my 2 step program. 1- Don't eat 2- if you do eat, puke it later

Actually, there are some women (and men) who get leg extension surgery to make themselves taller (usually two or three inches). This is very painful and takes a year to recover. While death is rare, it IS possible that you're going to be confined to a wheelchair for life.

Such torture to your body...don't think I would endure it. I enjoy being 5'1!!!!

Yes but lets be frank, the number of women that do that is vastly lower than the number of women trying to starve themselves into that size 2

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Alright, I know I don't always shut up when certain people think I should, but Jesus Christ JUST STFU ALREADY!

Such hostility...:D

Ok...here you go...

Miss Petite International Offical Website

Are you freakin happy now Taualumna???

I know I am...

I posted that link a couple of pages back. So I don't think she is.

Yes, but that link didn't work, and it was Miss Global Teen Petite. This is Miss Petite International. They must be more elite, because their website actually works (not well, but it does work).;) :p

Eating disorders are rampant in this country, but that is not the media's fault.

What is even more of a danger to society is the amount of obesity and overweightedness. Its not okay to be fat just because people are protesting the media. There needs to more women that look like miss universe models, and less like they graze soley at fast food drive thrus. Obesity causes way more health problems in this country than a model.

I agree, and I'm not blaming the media. Eating disorders are just as bad whether they're "not eating anything" or "eating all day long"

The only people I've ever heard of doing that are people who have some form of dwarfism. Not just your random, petite, 5'2" chic. And it still isn't KILLING THEM!

Seriously, how can you EVEN compare that surgery to people with anorexia or bulimia?!?!?! Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?!?!?! :eek:

There's nothing wrong with being short. Instead of complaining all the time about stores not catering to you or beauty pageants not catering to you, how about you grow some self-esteem and realize that being petite is not the end of the world.

Every one of us has some physical "problem" that keeps us from finding clothing that fits us. But we've learned to deal with it and move on with our lives and not burden others with our miniscule problems.

Jeez...it's like every thread turns into a whiny thread about how short people get no respect. Wahhh.

http://chrislinn.com/Downloadphoto1.jpg

Tell it like it is girl.

I think looking like a Miss Universe contestant might be a bit tough, because you are limited by your bone structure as to how small you can get, but I think if people (men and women both) were to do resistance training (i.e. weights), a decent amount of cardio and you eat "clean" (i.e. as little PROCESSED food as possible), you can make your body look pretty damn amazing.

I like the Figure and Fitness competitor women that I see in Oxygen magazine...I think they look terrific. Strong, fit and healthy. Uh huh..that's what I'm talking about.