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LenBias

07-11-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

This identification of so-called D9ers as active members of their organizations vs. NIC/NPC (i.e., those who aren't also D9 member groups also)has more to do with the culture of these groups. They also have to do with how they are organized. For D9 groups graduate/alumni(ae) chapters are real, functioning chapters, and in many cases are do more than undergraduate chapters in terms of programming, etc., even though the social aspect may not be as intense, even though for officers and committee chairs, they may spend a lot of time taking care of fraternity/sorority business. And these chapters are the ones that will usually have houses that function as social meeting places and places to carry out social outreach programs.

This is in contrast to most alumni chapters and associations in NIC/NPC groups, which tend to be gather for luncheons or the like occasionally or some other project, and they tend not to have the authority to initiate candidates.

Yeah..I Agree

tunatartare

07-11-2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

This is in contrast to most alumni chapters and associations in NIC/NPC groups, which tend to be gather for luncheons or the like occasionally or some other project, and they tend not to have the authority to initiate candidates.

This isn't fully accurate. When it comes to alumnae initiation, alumnae chapters of some NPC sororities do have the authority to initiate AIs if there is no collegiate chapter within a reasonable distance.

Wolfman

07-11-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

This is why I specifically wrote 'tend' because I do know that some NPC groups do have alumnae initiation. (I may be wrong in that a majority of these groups do have this practice.)

mccoyred

07-11-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

But this isn't the same as alumnae initiation in NPHC orgs where entire lines are meant to be initiated into the alumnae chapter. There is no contingency about collegiate chapters or collegiate membership when deciding to have an alumnae intiation, which is the same process as collegiates; the criteria for applicants may be slightly different but the 'process' is theoretically the same.

Senusret I

07-11-2006 08:01 PM

NPHC fraternity men graduate and become members of alumni/graduate chapters. (and many join other civic groups)

Do NIC and NPC members "graduate" to another realm of civic engagement that replaces Greek life? ("The Lodge" be it masonry, Elks, KofP, etc; Kiwanis, country clubs, etc -- or Junior League, etc)

I kinda feel like that's where the fundamental non-understanding is here....for many NPC/NIC people, though "was" is merely semantics, I think that other organizations were in place for white people for longer than they have been in place for black people. In the early 1900s, black people had the lodge...then black greek life.

I'm not TRYING to make this a racial issue, but my understanding of the issue is based in the differences in social and civic opportunities for those people in the same time period.

Any thoughts? And forgive if I ramble....been a long day.

shinerbock

07-11-2006 08:48 PM

You may be right. Fraternity men seem to go on to join other realms, be it country clubs, local political parties, congress...

macallan25

07-11-2006 09:29 PM

Yes.

Drolefille

07-12-2006 12:05 AM

It's not always that straight forward, but yeah, there ARE other groups out there. My mother is an ADPi alumna but there are no Alumnae chapters here so she keeps in touch but has also joined Junior Welfare and PEO and is a Pink Hat (Red Hat once she's old enough)

I see myself staying active in Sigma Kappa, and hopefully in touch with a collegiate chapter, and probably NOT filling the space with other clubs. It's just a personal preference.

macallan25

07-12-2006 12:30 AM

I imagine myself taking the route of my dad. He is a check writing alumni of SAE at Texas and a member of the Texas Ex's. That is about it. He does not participate in any alumni chapters (I don't even know of any) but stays very close and in touch with a very good group of his original pledge brothers. Other than that he has memberships at various country clubs, debutante associations, etc.

Soul D-Psi-ple

07-12-2006 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

You may be right. Fraternity men seem to go on to join other realms, be it country clubs, local political parties, congress...

For some odd reason I found that funny, yet I could truly see that.

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