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kddani 06-14-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf
With all due respect, the way someone chooses her classes is none of our business. And while I would agree that taking more challenging coursework and making school the number one priority should be the number one priority,

It is our business when she is posting about GPA requirements and how they will affect her ability to have a successful rush. It gives insight as to priorities and such.

AlphaFrog 06-14-2006 03:46 PM

As long as you understand that your post read that you were taking "History of Polka-Dots" so you could join Elle and the gang down at the Delta Nu house, you get what I'm saying.

Drolefille 06-14-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
As long as you understand that your post read that you were taking "History of Polka-Dots" so you could join Elle and the gang down at the Delta Nu house, you get what I'm saying.

*pokes alphafrog* Shh, you're being mean still.

I know many people who rearranged their lives around extracirriculars, especially SGA etc. She'll still have times when classes interfere with sorority events but believe me, if I could have given myself 3 days off, I would have. I settled for Fridays off.

TSteven 06-14-2006 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
As long as you understand that your post read that you were taking "History of Polka-Dots" so you could join Elle and the gang down at the Delta Nu house, you get what I'm saying.

Didn't Elle end up getting into and graduating from Harvard Law?

Drolefille 06-14-2006 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TSteven
Didn't Elle end up getting into and graduating from Harvard Law?

Yep. And for all the silly girliness.. her sisters helped her when she needed them. Studying for the LSATs and such...

AGDee 06-15-2006 05:58 AM

Think of GPA requirements for sororities as similar to GPA requirements for a competitive academic program. If there are a limited number of slots, even if you have the minimum GPA, if there are more people with a higher GPA, you might not be admitted. For instance, for the OT program I was in, the minimum GPA was a 3.0 but nobody with below a 3.4 got into it because it was so competitive.

sunshine43 06-15-2006 06:08 PM

GPA translation
 
Hello everyone. I will be going through recruitment this fall. The minimum GPA for freshmen is a 2.75. I went to a private high school and they did not use the traditional 4.0 scale. Instead they went by percentages. I was wondering if anyone knew how to convert a percent GPA to a 4.0 scale. Thank you.:)

tunatartare 06-15-2006 06:18 PM

Talk to your greek life office. They may help you or submit a transcript for you. Good luck!

SoCalGirl 06-15-2006 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sunshine43
Hello everyone. I will be going through recruitment this fall. The minimum GPA for freshmen is a 2.75. I went to a private high school and they did not use the traditional 4.0 scale. Instead they went by percentages. I was wondering if anyone knew how to convert a percent GPA to a 4.0 scale. Thank you.:)


Was it just a straight percentage? Like from 0-100%?

Depending on the school system there's a 10 point or 6 point scale. There might be others but I've never heard of them. In the 10 point scale 90-100 is and A, 80-89 is a B and so on. In the 6 point scale 94-100 is an A, 88-93 is a B and so on. An A = 4.0, B, = 3.0, etc. If they use +/- grades it affects the GPA but I forget by how much.

SockPuppet3 06-16-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl
Was it just a straight percentage? Like from 0-100%?

Depending on the school system there's a 10 point or 6 point scale. There might be others but I've never heard of them. In the 10 point scale 90-100 is and A, 80-89 is a B and so on. In the 6 point scale 94-100 is an A, 88-93 is a B and so on. An A = 4.0, B, = 3.0, etc. If they use +/- grades it affects the GPA but I forget by how much.


At my HS, +/- were worth .2 respectively. So, A+ would be 4.2, A- would be 3.8. That was on a 6 point scale, though. I don't know if it's different if you're on a 10 point scale.

fifi225 06-26-2006 01:59 AM

From another UCFer
 
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Originally Posted by adpiucf
Good luck at UCF recruitment! ZTAngel and I are "old," but we're still somewhat familiar with what's happening at our campus. BellaBerlee may be able to offer some current insights.

I'm not old, and I totally second everything that adpiucf just said :)
Be yourself, and don't worry. Look at it this way, if you are going to get cut for your GPA after the first round, then well, your going to get cut. Not really much you can do about it at this point. So concentrate on your strengths, focusing on your weaknesses (now) will only hurt you.

Best of luck!


...oh, and no, nobody goes to pub anymore. Well not right now anyway, I went to subway last night at about 1:30am and was suprised to find it wonderfully quiet! Heh. Pub closed for a few weeks.

/random

fifi225 06-26-2006 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ucfpnm
Really? That's strange. There's still all kinds of students up there. Do you know why?

Maybe they decided to clean the floor and fix the bathrooms, lord knows that would take several weeks :)


I've set foot in that place ONCE last year. My roommate was stranded and I drove over there to rescue her. As my foot STUCK to the floor, I figured going back wasn't really on my "high list" of priorities.

The guy at subway said that they are closed for a few weeks. It was pretty quiet last night at 1:30 and looked closed.

What year are you?

adpiucf 06-26-2006 09:52 AM

Keeping the UCF crash going... you know how old I am? I am so old that "in my day...." the only thing around campus was the Pub, "Club" Applebee's (don't even ask), Wing Shack, Magic Wings-Mandangos-Janie Macks (and I have no idea what y'all are calling it now) and the now-defunct UC-7 cinema. We had a Smoothie King and lots of woods....

Ah ... Tuesday nights at the Pub. Good times.

emme 06-26-2006 09:58 PM

Hey guys!! Late but hope you guys can help! I am a sophomore (well until fall I can get the credit to be viewed as a sophomore) But my first year I did horrible, I went into with a different major choice. But my gpa now is 2.3 and hopefully it will go up to at least 2.5. I knew gpa was a requirement but I didnt know how competitive. Scared now? Def! ADPI has the highest gpa with 3.1 which is VERY competitive and ADPI is one of my top choices. My chances of getting into my top choices scares me very much now :(

KSUViolet06 06-26-2006 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by emme
Hey guys!! Late but hope you guys can help! I am a sophomore (well until fall I can get the credit to be viewed as a sophomore) But my first year I did horrible, I went into with a different major choice. But my gpa now is 2.3 and hopefully it will go up to at least 2.5. I knew gpa was a requirement but I didnt know how competitive. Scared now? Def! ADPI has the highest gpa with 3.1 which is VERY competitive and ADPI is one of my top choices. My chances of getting into my top choices scares me very much now :(



A piece of advice: I wouldn't go into recruitment with a group of "top choices" especially if your GPA is low. I'd keep an open mind if I were you. With that GPA, you'll be facing some cuts.

emme 06-26-2006 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JocelynC


A piece of advice: I wouldn't go into recruitment with a group of "top choices" especially if your GPA is low. I'd keep an open mind if I were you. With that GPA, you'll be facing some cuts.

Yea thats what Im VERY scared of! I have my top choices but im not closed minded at all!! I will be very open minded to all the sororities and hope for the best. The only thing im scared about is all the ones I like being cut from them. I prepared for the worst and the best. I know my personality and it will shine I just hope my GPA will be looked at before my personality.

kddani 06-27-2006 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by emme
Yea thats what Im VERY scared of! I have my top choices but im not closed minded at all!! I will be very open minded to all the sororities and hope for the best. The only thing im scared about is all the ones I like being cut from them. I prepared for the worst and the best. I know my personality and it will shine I just hope my GPA will be looked at before my personality.

Honestly, (this may seem harsh, but it's a reality), you will probably be cut from all of the groups very early on because of your GPA. 2.3 is a VERY low GPA. While there is always a chance, and also depends on your school, I very much doubt it.

Also, if your grades are that low, you probably should be concentrating exclusively on your school work. Sororities take up a lot of time. It's going to take a lot of work to get that GPA up, which should be your top priority. You have your own future to think of- getting a job after college and/or getting into a grad school.

Buttonz 06-27-2006 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kddani
Honestly, (this may seem harsh, but it's a reality), you will probably be cut from all of the groups very early on because of your GPA. 2.3 is a VERY low GPA. While there is always a chance, and also depends on your school, I very much doubt it.

Also, if your grades are that low, you probably should be concentrating exclusively on your school work. Sororities take up a lot of time. It's going to take a lot of work to get that GPA up, which should be your top priority. You have your own future to think of- getting a job after college and/or getting into a grad school.

She's right. Also on top of that, many sororities have a national GPA requirment. While usually less then the schools GPA requirment, that alone can get you cut.

I'd suggest you concentrate on your school work and don't worry about rush.

KSUViolet06 06-27-2006 11:38 PM



While we're on this topic of grades:

All rushees should take this general piece of advice, but it's especially true for freshmen:

Of course there are always uncontrollable circumstances (i.e. illness, natural disaster, etc), but TAKE COLLEGE SERIOUSLY. Make an effort to do well. If you don't, you'll have to work HARDER to bring it up. Make it easy on yourself and do the work/go to class. You'll be glad you did.

This is relevant to recruitment as well. If you go through rush after getting crappy grades, it's going to be harder for you to get a bid. That's just the way it is. Whether you're rushing at Ole Miss or at some small school in Wisconsin, bad grades will hurt your chances.

If your grades are lower than like 90% of the sorority GPA requirements, then in my opinion, you need to save yourself the trouble and focus on school. If possible, go through the next year after raising your GPA.

Forgive me if I'm being harsh, but I feel like this thread could benefit from this little reminder.

adpiucf 06-28-2006 10:13 AM

^ What she said! Ladies, please remember that you are in college to get an education and move onto a future career. Your grades need to be the top priority. Forget sororities for a moment. If you overwhelm yourself with too many extracurriculars and you have poor study habits it will not bode well when it comes time to pursue internships, graduate study and some entry level jobs.

College is about getting a degree. Sororities are one of the many ways to enrich your college experience, but you need to have a strong sense of self and a handle on your grades before you commit to Greek Life. We reward good scholarship and provide membership programming to keep our sisters on task with their grades, but we are not going to wake you up every morning and hold your hand through class. You need to prove to us that you are committed to school before you can commit to membership.

ETA: Please don't be deluded that an outgoing and wonderful personality will compensate for a poor GPA. There are 100s and sometimes over 1000 women who go through sorority recruitment. You have a limited amount of time to make a first impression before cuts can begin for the next round. With so many women coming through, those with the most stellar resumes are likely going to make it through before the ones with fewer credentials. Chances are, those girls with the great grades have just as wonderful a personality and they are going to be seen as the more desireable candidates because they can bring the sorority more kudos by way of their academic and extracurricular achievements which makes the whole sorority look good. On those rare occasions someone with lower grades is offered a bid it is usually because she has some stellar achievement, such as a pageant title or a high ranking student government office.

tunatartare 06-28-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by emme
Hey guys!! Late but hope you guys can help! I am a sophomore (well until fall I can get the credit to be viewed as a sophomore) But my first year I did horrible, I went into with a different major choice. But my gpa now is 2.3 and hopefully it will go up to at least 2.5. I knew gpa was a requirement but I didnt know how competitive. Scared now? Def! ADPI has the highest gpa with 3.1 which is VERY competitive and ADPI is one of my top choices. My chances of getting into my top choices scares me very much now :(

Most sororities have GPA requirements that are above 2.3. I don't know if any sororities at UCF have requirements of 2.3 or below. The ones that have higher requirements will automatically cut you.

LouisaMay 06-28-2006 10:20 AM

And may I add another piece of advice regarding grades?

I've taught college-level courses for a number of years and over & over I see the same problem and I give the same advice. If you find yourself in trouble (big or small, one assignment or the whole course), talk to your instructor as soon as possible. Do not wait until you are drowning to yell for the life raft. Most professors are willing to give you assistance if you ask. Most are not willing to overlook a failing grade when you come to their offices crying on the last day of the term. Too many students think that problems will solve themselves or their issue is too insignificant to bother the prof. Unfortunately, little problems compound themselves because the work-load doesn't stop just because you got a little behind. Speak up!

emme 06-28-2006 04:44 PM

Hey girls! Well thanks for the constructive criticism, as much as it hurts it is the truth. I think Im just going to sit it out like adpiucf said all those girls have wonderful personalities and have the credentials to be there. My semester I started off as a Forensic Science major and my mind and heart were not there so it really tarnished me. I feel bad since my grades have never been so bad. If I could turn back time I would have rushed my freshman year with so much credentials and a 3.8 GPA. But I cant so maybe next year Ill do it. This year Ill just volunteer and do stuff at UCF. Thanks a lot girls!!!

fifi225 06-28-2006 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by emme
Hey girls! Well thanks for the constructive criticism, as much as it hurts it is the truth. I think Im just going to sit it out like adpiucf said all those girls have wonderful personalities and have the credentials to be there. My semester I started off as a Forensic Science major and my mind and heart were not there so it really tarnished me. I feel bad since my grades have never been so bad. If I could turn back time I would have rushed my freshman year with so much credentials and a 3.8 GPA. But I cant so maybe next year Ill do it. This year Ill just volunteer and do stuff at UCF. Thanks a lot girls!!!

Ah. The forensic science major. I TAed for bio I this past spring and at LEAST 30 people in that class changed their major from forensic science that semester (1st) alone. Forget about getting up to organic II.

FSUZeta 06-28-2006 05:57 PM

work real hard on your grades emme-you sound smart, so i bet you can do it!! best of luck this year in school and be sure to give recruitment a try next year after your gpa improves!! volunteering and getting involved on campus(but not so involved that it cuts into your study time) are a good part of your plan.

adpiucf 06-28-2006 06:20 PM

Forensics is really hard!!! And UCF is the only program in the state.

One of my alpha class sisters started out in that major... and ended up transferring into a communications degree! Talk about a switch!

Good luck, Emme! Pull those grades up and go get 'em! There are plenty of opportunities for great upperclassmen in UCF Greek Life and I hope you'll hang around GC!

kiter333 07-06-2006 04:04 AM

most sororities you need a 3.0 as an incoming freshman.
no lower than a 2.8 as an enrolled student.

of course if you are valuable in other areas sororities usually take on a couple girls as grade risks. but know that the first round is when they cut for grade risks and questionable reputations.

TrueBlueKappa 07-06-2006 11:26 AM

Yes, most likely. Heavy cuts are done the first day, and grades are looked at then.

adpiucf 07-06-2006 12:12 PM

In some cases, if you have a rec, it will get you through the first cuts. But the grade issue is likely to come up again. If you've gotten to round 2 with your rec, you've had a chance to meet more chapter members and it is possible that they may take you as a grade risk. This is the exception and not the rule. There are so many women at these recruitments and cuts come so quickly that often in the early rounds, so mostly at that point you are being cut mainly for grades. If you've wowed em in round 1 or round 2, they may overlook your grades because you have something else wonderful to bring to the table.

tunatartare 07-06-2006 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ucfpnm
so if they're going to cut you for grades, they'll do it on the first day?

It depends on if your grades are below the minimum or not. If they're not stellar but aren't below minimum, it would play against you but would depend on other factors as well. If they're below minimum, then I would imagine they'd have to cut you.

bruinaphi 07-07-2006 11:33 AM

There are some groups that do not have national GPA cutoffs. While Alpha Phi does not have a chapter at UCF, I think it is relevant to point out that at a national level our GPA requirement is that our chapters meet or exceed the all women's average. Individual chapters within Alpha Phi do have recruitment GPAs that they've established, which they use for recruitment.

Oceangal 07-31-2006 08:26 PM

GPA beyond rush
 
I understand the concern about meeting GPA requirements for rush, but squeaking by shouldn't be the goal during undergrad years. I found out the hard way. I am trying to change careers, and going back to school. Every grad school wants all transcripts, from every school. I went to a junior college, did a poor job of balancing academics and life outside of class when I transferred to a college, and squeaked by most of the time with Cs.
I didn't settle down until I really got a handle on what I wanted to do (when I grew up, I guess). Many grad schools want a 3.0, some a 2.75. That is to be considered, then comes recommedations, essays, and some want good GRE scores.
I am responsible for my grades, not the sorority, or whatever. I needed to say no louder when demands on my time took me away from the books and also wasn't great then with time management. I'd love to pay a few schools not to send transcripts, but it doesn't work that way.
Grad school wasn't even on my radar during my party hardy days. I am taking classes to make up grades.

twinkle555 08-01-2006 12:05 AM

i know ADPi at USF has a 3.14 GPA to join requirement. im not sure if that means u have to have a 3.14 at the time of rush or by the time u are initiated. i hope it is the latter because i really like USF's ADPi chapter but my GPA right now is a 3.09 :confused:

KSUViolet06 08-01-2006 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by twinkle555
i know ADPi at USF has a 3.14 GPA to join requirement. im not sure if that means u have to have a 3.14 at the time of rush or by the time u are initiated.

This usually means a 3.14 by the time of rush. Most sororities require that a PNM have a certain GPA in order to receive a bid.


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