GreekChat.com Forums

GreekChat.com Forums (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/index.php)
-   Chit Chat (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/forumdisplay.php?f=185)
-   -   Department Stores Shutting Petite Section (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=78334)

kddani 05-31-2006 05:36 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
Because sometimes, my mother makes me.

ETA:

As for average heighted people of all sizes, yes, you do have it easier, because you don't have to worry about length as short people do.

I won't touch that first comment except to say that you are a grown woman.

As for the second part I quoted, did you not read the posts of many of us who are "average" sized who have difficulty with length????

Taualumna 05-31-2006 05:44 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
I won't touch that first comment except to say that you are a grown woman.

As for the second part I quoted, did you not read the posts of many of us who are "average" sized who have difficulty with length????

1. I won't be considered "grown" until I am married and out of the house.

2. I am surprised that people aren't taking this seriuosly/supporting it.

Lady Pi Phi 05-31-2006 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
Dude, people of all sizes have trouble finding clothes. Pants are always too short on me (and at 5'8 I'm not exactly a towering giant). Shirts are either too small in the chest or too large around the midsection.

I think it's about time that stores realize that short/tall/heavy/skinny/flat/busty women have money too, and we'd like to buy some damn pants that fit without alterations, for the love of Pete.

Amen! I have the same problem. I am also 5'8 and I find that regular length pants are too short but the longs are too long. I need pants that are somewhere in the middle. But I think men have the same problem, even they have an odd lenght inseam, they won't be able to find pants that are the right length.

Lady Pi Phi 05-31-2006 06:30 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
...2. I am surprised that people aren't taking this seriuosly/supporting it.
People are taking this seriously, it's just that petite people don't have it the hardest.

I'm tall and I'm plus sized. I have it just as bad as a petite person does when trying to find clothes. Have you ever gone into a plus sized section at a department store? 99% of the styles they have are frumpy and out of date. It's not my idea of fashion to walk around in a mumu.

I have the hardest time buying pants. I'm extremly high waisted with long legs. I can't wear at waist plus size pants because they look horrible and I can't wear regular lenght pants because they're too short. But I can't wear long pants either because they're too long.

Most button -up shirts/blouses I can't wear because they don't go around my bust and if I go up to the next size, it's too big.

Shopping, for me is such a chore and often very depressing, that I hate doing it and rarely ever go.

Every woman on this board can tell you about horrible shopping experiences and how hard it is to buy clothes.

That's why this isn't just a problem for petite women.

SOPi_Jawbreaker 05-31-2006 06:35 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
If you're teeny tiny, try vintage, which was designed for smaller bodies.
That's also true of clothing in other countries. I'm normal sized here (5'3" with shoes on, size 8 or 10), but when I was in Taiwan, it was so hard to find a shirt. We had to go to a couple different shops until we finally found one that had an extra large shirt. When my mom went to China, she said the sizes in China run even smaller than in Taiwan. She couldn't find anything that fit her. She's about 5'1" and a size 2 or 4.

ADqtPiMel 05-31-2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Amen! I have the same problem. I am also 5'8 and I find that regular length pants are too short but the longs are too long. I need pants that are somewhere in the middle. But I think men have the same problem, even they have an odd lenght inseam, they won't be able to find pants that are the right length.
Word. Regular pants are always too short on me and the longs drag the ground. I usually get longs and get them hemmed. I also get my button down shirts tailored to avoid the tent look, since my boobs are proportionately larger than my waist.

ETA- It's not that I don't support the plight of petites, I just don't think that their problem is that much worse than anyone else's.

AGDee 05-31-2006 06:40 PM

I'm 5'2 1/2" but my body is proportionately longer than my legs, so all pants are long on me. What I do, to avoid having to hem pants (at least summer pants) is buy capri's or crop pants. They fit me like regular pants, problem solved!

SOPi_Jawbreaker 05-31-2006 06:42 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker
That's also true of clothing in other countries. I'm normal sized here (5'3" with shoes on, size 8 or 10), but when I was in Taiwan, it was so hard to find a shirt. We had to go to a couple different shops until we finally found one that had an extra large shirt. When my mom went to China, she said the sizes in China run even smaller than in Taiwan. She couldn't find anything that fit her. She's about 5'1" and a size 2 or 4.
I forgot to add that my mom did find a solution. She got a few custom-made pieces. Chinese-made fabric is really cheap (imported stuff is another story), and the seamstresses are very affordable and most do very good work. My mom got black dress pants made for about $12 each (fabric and labor). So maybe everyone should go out and befriend a Chinese international student, and when she goes home for break, have her take your measurements with her. :p :rolleyes: :D

Glitter650 05-31-2006 07:01 PM

I know most federated stores carry INC and they make almost all their stuff in Petite sizes, and it's not ugly or outdated styles either.
I'm only 5'1 PLUS I have proportionately short legs, so pants are ALWAYS too long, as are sleeves... I hem and roll and shop petite when available. I actually think it's harder if you're super tall because you can't really make pants longer, but I can pretty much always hem mine up.

rhochi2002 05-31-2006 07:11 PM

I think everyone thinks that there problem is worst whether it is being petite, plus sized, or tall. And having friends of all sizes I can definately say that all of our problems are equal. I love going shopping, but I rarely find stuff that fits correctly.

kddani 05-31-2006 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rhochi2002
I think everyone thinks that there problem is worst whether it is being petite, plus sized, or tall. And having friends of all sizes I can definately say that all of our problems are equal. I love going shopping, but I rarely find stuff that fits correctly.
I don't know that anyone but Taualumna thinks they have it the worst... everyone else is agreeing that pretty much all women have problems finding things that fit them well, because there are so many different body types of women!

Petites have the option of hemming or otherwise altering their clothes... I can't add fabric!

Rudey 05-31-2006 07:28 PM

I love threads like this because the skinny and fat girls fight each other. MEOW MEOW!!

-Rudey

BobbyTheDon 05-31-2006 07:34 PM

I have a solution to all of your problems. Just stop wearing clothes.

Except you Kddani. Your fair skin will blind us all. Please, spare our eyes and wear clothes.

kddani 05-31-2006 07:36 PM

http://getspunkd.com/brad/lollipop_guild.jpg

Dionysus 05-31-2006 07:36 PM

I think tall girls have it better than petite girls. If you're like 5'7'' or taller (or weigh more than 200 lbs.) and can't find clothing your size, then why don't you just shop in the guys' section? :confused:



I'm joking...

oceanphi01 05-31-2006 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
I think it's about time that stores realize that short/tall/heavy/skinny/flat/busty women have money too, and we'd like to buy some damn pants that fit without alterations, for the love of Pete.

AMEN!!!!

Rudey 05-31-2006 08:05 PM

http://www.fatchicksinpartyhats.com/fathatdance.html

-Rudey
--Bobby these girls found clothing that fits so you don't have to worry about that problem.

mulattogyrl 05-31-2006 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Petites have the option of hemming or otherwise altering their clothes... I can't add fabric!
That's a good point. I'm 5'1 and have wide hips so of course I have problems, but I guess I'm just used to hemming my pants or buying capris that turn out sort of normal length, lol. It really isn't a big deal to me.

rhochi2002 05-31-2006 08:28 PM

you guys are special...
:rolleyes:

valkyrie 05-31-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
Average heighted people who are a little bigger on top and/or bottom have it MUCH EASIER than us shorties. All you have to do is look. For us shorties, pants still don't fit properly if we buy the best brands and hem them up (which often cost $$$) because the rise is too long and they look baggy on us. People have suggested that shorties buy capris, but if you're 5'2, regular capris would look half way between capris and regular pants. And the rise will still be too long. Suit jackets are a problem too...
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE IT MUCH EASIER THAN YOU DO? I'm serious. How do you know that? Okay so you have problems with pants. Great. I have problems with shirts. They often have these length problems that seem so terrible to you -- by the time they cover the boobs, there's not enough left to cover the midriff! And suit jackets! And skirts, because they're often designed for women with "child bearing hips," and my hips ain't birthin' no child, thanks. So OMGWTF I have it worse than everybody! Larger girls can just wear mumus! OMG! And short girls can buy skirts and pull them up to their armpits and pass them off as dresses! See?! I'm so jealous! If I wear something fitted, I look like a porn star! And if I wear something baggy, it looks like a tent! OH NOES!

Nobody is as worked up about this as you are because the rest of us realize that we ALL HAVE PROBLEMS.

Taualumna 05-31-2006 10:44 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE IT MUCH EASIER THAN YOU DO? I'm serious. How do you know that? Okay so you have problems with pants. Great. I have problems with shirts. They often have these length problems that seem so terrible to you -- by the time they cover the boobs, there's not enough left to cover the midriff! And suit jackets! And skirts, because they're often designed for women with "child bearing hips," and my hips ain't birthin' no child, thanks. So OMGWTF I have it worse than everybody! Larger girls can just wear mumus! OMG! And short girls can buy skirts and pull them up to their armpits and pass them off as dresses! See?! I'm so jealous! If I wear something fitted, I look like a porn star! And if I wear something baggy, it looks like a tent! OH NOES!

Nobody is as worked up about this as you are because the rest of us realize that we ALL HAVE PROBLEMS.

Short girls don't ONLY have problems with pants. I'm sick and tired of people thinking that. Short people are usually short all over. We don't ONLY have short legs. We have problems with shirts, jackets and skirts too because they're too darn long! You can't hem a shirt or jacket, can you? You just look like a 10 year old wearing Mommy's work clothes.

GeekyPenguin 05-31-2006 10:49 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
Short girls don't ONLY have problems with pants. I'm sick and tired of people thinking that. Short people are usually short all over. We don't ONLY have short legs. We have problems with shirts, jackets and skirts too because they're too darn long! You can't hem a shirt or jacket, can you? You just look like a 10 year old wearing Mommy's work clothes.
You can hem shirts and jackets. You must have the worst tailor in the world. I get all my suit jackets hemmed and taken in. It's like $15.

Taualumna 05-31-2006 11:19 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
You can hem shirts and jackets. You must have the worst tailor in the world. I get all my suit jackets hemmed and taken in. It's like $15.

So you're basically saying that petite sizes don't really matter, and that we shouldn't be complaining that stores are cutting back. I have spoken with many short people, and they have said that they'd rather wear petites than regular sizes.

A hemmed suit jacket in a regular size still won't fit as well as an actual petite sized jacket.

GeekyPenguin 05-31-2006 11:20 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
So you're basically saying that petite sizes don't really matter, and that we shouldn't be complaining that stores are cutting back. I have spoken with many short people, and they have said that they'd rather wear petites than regular sizes.

A hemmed suit jacket in a regular size still won't fit as well as an actual petite sized jacket.

It will if you also get it taken in. For the love of God, get a tailor and get over it. I don't know a single woman who has everything she tries on off the rack fit her perfectly.

tunatartare 05-31-2006 11:41 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
So you're basically saying that petite sizes don't really matter, and that we shouldn't be complaining that stores are cutting back. I have spoken with many short people, and they have said that they'd rather wear petites than regular sizes.

A hemmed suit jacket in a regular size still won't fit as well as an actual petite sized jacket.

Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.


And before you start saying that I don't know what it's like to have a hard time finding clothes, I'm 5'1", have both hips, an ass, and big boobs. So yes, I do know. It just doesn't preoccupy my whole day and existance.

Taualumna 06-01-2006 12:36 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
It will if you also get it taken in. For the love of God, get a tailor and get over it. I don't know a single woman who has everything she tries on off the rack fit her perfectly.
Maybe I should become a clothing designer and make clothes especially for shorter women. My models will also be under 5'5.

kddani 06-01-2006 06:18 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
Maybe I should become a clothing designer and make clothes especially for shorter women. My models will also be under 5'5.
Knock yourself out, as least that would be a productive solution for you.

No one denies that petite women can have a hard time finding clothes. What we deny and think you're being a b!tch about is saying that you exclusively have it the worst when women everywhere have difficulty.

Why are you so insistent that you have it SO hard and are SO special?

And yes you can get shirts and stuff altered. Taller or longer torsoed people can't- WE CANNOT ADD MATERIAL.

mulattogyrl 06-01-2006 11:36 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
And short girls can buy skirts and pull them up to their armpits and pass them off as dresses! See?! I'm so jealous! If I wear something fitted, I look like a porn star! And if I wear something baggy, it looks like a tent! OH NOES!

LMAO @ these sentences. But how come I did that with the skirt thing before? LMAAAAO.

valkyrie 06-01-2006 11:43 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
LMAO @ these sentences. But how come I did that with the skirt thing before? LMAAAAO.
HAHA I used to do that with Barbies.

AlphaFrog 06-01-2006 12:05 PM

Or us short people can wear really long tank tops and call them sheath dresses. I have a blouse that I just got from Old Navy, and it hits about mid-thigh, and my husband swears that it's supposed to be a dress. Men:rolleyes: :)

Steeltrap 06-01-2006 12:15 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
As a few other people have said, almost ALL of us get the "short end of the stick" in one way or another. Try having large breasts and no hips -- entire categories of clothing are pretty much a no-go -- sheath dresses (in fact, MANY dresses don't work -- nothing's better than hanging out in the Anthropologie dressing room where you try on a cute little dress only to find that the bottom is too big and the top can't even zip), empire waists, any top or jacket that isn't fitted, strappy things that don't hide bra straps unless you enjoy the torture of strapless bras, Ann Taylor pants, etc. etc. etc.

I guess rather than being bitter about it, I find designers/stores/items that work and go with them. Nobody can wear everything out there. Oh well. Find what works and buy it. If you're teeny tiny, try vintage, which was designed for smaller bodies.

Excellent advice on finding what works, no matter what your figure issue is.
I am tall (5'9") and have very large hips/thighs and small-ish mammaries. My bottom often times pushes me into full-fashion, plus size, whatever. I pick and choose what I can tolerate from those lines (because trust, I loathe full elastic waists, high waists, tapering, all that isht)
MamaTrap is 5' tall and she has few issues. I do think, however, that department store petites are geared to mature women.

AlphaFrog 06-01-2006 12:18 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Steeltrap
I do think, however, that department store petites are geared to mature women.
LOL:D Sorry, I know that wasn't supposed to be funny, but in the context of this thread...it was.;)

Steeltrap 06-01-2006 12:21 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Department Stores Shutting Petite Section
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
LOL:D Sorry, I know that wasn't supposed to be funny, but in the context of this thread...it was.;)
OK, thanks for clarifying.;)

Taualumna 06-01-2006 12:26 PM

I think what people aren't seeing is that petite sizes, when available, are designed proportionately smaller. Usually buttons are smaller, stripes might be closer together, etc, etc...Short people would rather be able to buy things that proportionately fit them rather than buy something that is a "regular" size and then have to spend half+ of what they did purchasing the outfit in alterations. In any case, what's the point of buying the outfit if you have to cut it, shrink it and change the button sizes?

kddani 06-01-2006 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
I think what people aren't seeing is that petite sizes, when available, are designed proportionately smaller. Usually buttons are smaller, stripes might be closer together, etc, etc...Short people would rather be able to buy things that proportionately fit them rather than buy something that is a "regular" size and then have to spend half+ of what they did purchasing the outfit in alterations. In any case, what's the point of buying the outfit if you have to cut it, shrink it and change the button sizes?
And as we've all been saying and things that don't get through to you is that we ALL have similar problems. These problems ARE NOT exclusive to petites. Some of us don't even HAVE the option of alterations. We would all like to be able to find things that fit and flatter us. It's hard to find good clothes that do that, for all of us.

Perhaps you should try to get on "What Not to Wear". Stacey and Clinton do an excellent job of showing people of all shapes and sizes how to find clothing for their particular body type.

I wish I could afford to tailor my clothes... tailored clothes look so much better on everyone. We're not all cut from the same mold, but the clothing is.

People would be a lot more sympathetic to your plight if you didn't keep saying that you had it the toughest.

Peaches-n-Cream 06-01-2006 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
I think what people aren't seeing is that petite sizes, when available, are designed proportionately smaller. Usually buttons are smaller, stripes might be closer together, etc, etc...Short people would rather be able to buy things that proportionately fit them rather than buy something that is a "regular" size and then have to spend half+ of what they did purchasing the outfit in alterations. In any case, what's the point of buying the outfit if you have to cut it, shrink it and change the button sizes?
A good tailor or seamstress can do can amazing job. Like you, my sister is petite. Unlike you, she had little interest in the petite department. (The clothes fit, but they weren't the most fashionable.) She would buy a cute outfit or suit and take it to the tailor who would work his magic. She would also find designers and styles that flatter her particular body type.

Maybe you should take sewing lessons. I know someone who would find patterns that she liked and would buy material to make clothes. She was really talented.

Taualumna 06-01-2006 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
A good tailor or seamstress can do can amazing job. Like you, my sister is petite. Unlike you, she had little interest in the petite department. (The clothes fit, but they weren't the most fashionable.) She would buy a cute outfit or suit and take it to the tailor who would work his magic. She would also find designers and styles that flatter her particular body type.

Maybe you should take sewing lessons. I know someone who would find patterns that she liked and would buy material to make clothes. She was really talented.

If your little sister was more interested in the petite department, then perhaps there would be more petite sizes out there. The issue here is that many petite women don't even know that these sizes exist, unlike plus sized women who are usually very well informed about plus sizes.

AlphaFrog 06-01-2006 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
If your little sister was more interested in the petite department, then perhaps there would be more petite sizes out there. The issue here is that many petite women don't even know that these sizes exist, unlike plus sized women who are usually very well informed about plus sizes.
What's the matter, are you too short to read the "Petite" sign that hangs over the department??

tunatartare 06-01-2006 01:55 PM

Ok there is really no nice way of putting this: Taualumna, no one here cares about this except you. It's annoying how you think you're special and different because clothes don't fit you right. You're not the only one. If you're really serious about this, go find a forum for short people or whatnot, we just don't care.

kddani 06-01-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
What's the matter, are you too short to read the "Petite" sign that hangs over the department??
Lol, oh damn.

There is a ton of cute petite clothing out there. I know, because i've accidentally wandered into the sections a couple of times, picked up something and said wow this is cute. Then I realized the jacket would probably hit an inch below my boobs


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:46 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.