First there's a Pike chapter at Howard and now APA joins the NIC? What's next? The inter-mingling of races?

-Rudey
--Quip

No, not at all. Kappa Sig and other fraternities have had their reasons for leaving.

Didn't Phi Delta Theta withdraw from the NIC as well?

I believe so, right around the same time we did.

Thank you for the clarification. And to slightly expound on your post:

Depending on the specific campus' IFC by-laws, it is possible that any/all fraternity chapters on campus could be a member of that campus' IFC. This may include, but certainly is not limited to, the following organizations.

Local fraternities, professional fraternities, unaffiliated national social fraternities, multicultural fraternities, special interest fraternities, members of the Fraternity Leadership Association (FLA)*, members of the National Association of Latino Fraternal Organizations (NALFO), members of the National Multicultural Greek Council (NMGC), members of the National Pan-Hellenic Council (NPHC), as well as members of the North-American Interfraternity Conference (NIC).

It is more likely that non NIC/FLA members join the IFC when there is no other umbrella group for them on that campus.

*Fraternity Leadership Association members (may be others)
Delta Kappa Epsilon (also NIC member)
Kappa Sigma
Phi Sigma Kappa (also NIC member)
Sigma Alpha Epsilon (also NIC member)
Sigma Lambda Beta (also NALFO and NIC member)
Sigma Pi (also NIC member)

Phi Sigma Kappa withdrew from the NIC around that time as well. They rejoined NIC when Alpha Phi Alpha, Beta Chi Theta and Sigma Phi Delta joined.

FYI: This is not unusual. Since the inception of the NIC in 1909, organizations have left, others joined, some rejoined, others left etc.

Is participation in Greek Week an NIC requirement or something? If not, there are still REASONS why a chapter might opt out.

From the looks of this thread, some of the people were unsure about where their NIC dues went. :(

:D

If our national decision makers see any benefit in doing so and we meet whatever entry requirements there are.

What reasons? I thought Greek Week was one of biggest events that goes on in the Greek world.

there were only two of them so didn't have a team, and then I think they went away from my campus, but would like to see them there again

Not so much unsure as in disagreement with where their NIC dues went.

I think it had more to do with the amount of dues, which for some groups were over $10K, combined with the opinion, in the words of Phi Delta Theta's official statement when it withdrew from the NIC, that "the NIC has drifted from its primary mission of serving as an advocate for the American college fraternity movement toward one whose central function is to provide educational programming to our undergraduates. . . . [Phi Delta Theta] feel[s] strongly that the purpose of a trade association that represents college fraternities must be to provide services to the member organizations, rather than to the members of those organizations."

In other words, we're paying a lot of money and we don't think we're getting our money's worth.

Phi Delta Theta's entire statement can be found in the first post in this thread.

And TSteven is exactly right -- the history of the NIC is full of groups coming and going, coming back . . . .

Yeah, and I wonder why. There have been chapters out and in for whatever reasons -- I'm just curious.

I can't seem to find the official release for when Kappa Sig withdrew from the NIC; I suspect the reasoning was similar to Phi Delt's, and that we just didn't think we were getting as much out of the NIC as we were putting into it. Either way, withdrawing hasn't had a negative effect on the fraternity.

I remember when that happened, but can't remember why. You may be right about getting value back for the money, but I thought there was some disagreement on some policy. Obviously, I don't know if that's true, though.

It was in the thread posted above that started with the Phi Delt's... scroll down :)

Actually, now the NPHC men's groups who are non-NIC affiliated are in a minority: Omega Psi Phi and Phi Beta Sigma. I wonder A Phi A joined the NIC now?

Oh, my Greek brother,the Alpha party you spoke of is of the "Tea and Crumpet" kind;now, if the Ques came on board...:D

Is this sarcasm? :D

Oh, thanks for clarifying.

excuse my ignorance but what is greek week?

Greek Week is a friendly (theoretically) competition between fraternities and sororities. There are athletic and other types of events, like a college bowl type thing, and either a lip sync contest or a contest with actual singing.

Depending on the campus, sometimes fraternities and sororities pair up to form teams, sometimes not.

cool that sounds like fun! I wish they'd done that at my school. Sometimes I hate that I pledged in my senior year.

No. There really is no reason to. :D

Not at all. Greek week seems like a pretty exciting event, I can't see why any chapters would not want to participate.

Ah come on. Don't you want to learn door chants and obsess over your membership numbers? It'll be fabulous!

/sarcasm :D

Greek Week isn't a big deal to everyone (including myself) however it is a written or unwritten "requirement" on some campuses. Obligation to participate sometimes supercedes desire to participate.

Some small chapters will opt out because it is unfair to commit a 5 member chapter to Greek Week activities when other chapters have 50+ members whose time they can rotate. Another reason chapters will opt out is if certain Greek Week activities conflict with organizational protocol.

?? Nice response.

That's why they pair up the groups.

Not all schools pair up though, which does make it harder for smaller chapters. But they can prevail - in the last three years one of the smallest chapters on my campus has placed in the top 3 twice. Not that I'm knocking Greek Week. It's my 2nd favorite week of the year. :)

We do that already :D .

That is beside the real point. The fact is that this announcement is not the earth-shattering, world-changing, cataclysmic event that Earp made it out to be.

In a word: No.

Reason: Recruitment

NPC has very different membership selection then NPHC sororities. I just don't think our rush process would work for them, and I doubt NPC would give that up to include D9 GLOS.

I interpret his post as saying that it serves no grand purpose or masterplan other than that they decided they wanted to do it.

So being a part of the NPC would mean that everyone has to participate in the rush process?

If that's the case then I agree with you.

Correct--not all schools pair up.

Sure small chapters can prevail if they have people who can commit time to a Greek Week. Having 5 people in a chapter puts a lot of pressure to alter your schedule accordingly. However a large chapter has more people's schedules to consider so they can pick and choose participants based on that.

I do think that Greek Week is a good and important idea. Just not something that's on the top 100 list of everyone's undergrad Greek experiences. :)

Yes - some Latina and multicultural sororities have joined the Campus Panhellenic and still conduct a different recruitment, but if you join the National Panhellenic Conference, all of your collegiate chapters that are on a campus with another NPC sorority would have to do recruitment the same way we do.

I know I'm late on this but I think this is a great opportunity to continue to build bridges of communication and network. Why not...sounds good.

That's probably why there aren't any latina/asian/multicultural sororities in NPC too.

Right LOL

Have the PIKES colonized at Howard yet? I work on a campus where the PIKES have recruited more black men than one of the NPHC fraternities on campus....I can't wait to see what happens.

Yep - also, I'm not sure some of them meet the other membership requirements simply because a lot are fairly new organizations.