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ASUADPi 06-22-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1472049)
I thought there was such a law in TN also. I know for a fact that there are other states such as South Carolina and Arizona that have the same such rules. I have a KD friend at Clemson and a sister at Arizona that were both RAs/officers in their sorority's "dorms". These dorms were owned by the Unversity and were esstentinaly dorm bulidings on campus that specfic sororities were allowed to use. This seems like an internresting alternative to such laws, even if it is not a house.

FYI-The current sorority dorm at ASU is not owned by the University. An outside company built it on ASU land (I believe they are leasing the land). The girls do not pay their fees to ASU it is an outside management company. Now, their previous home (PV Main) as a dorm owned and operated by ASU.

(This information came from the collegians I know at ASU)

As for the brothel law, I heard (I don't know if it is true or not) that it was "taken off the books" because at one point there was talk (and there might still be but I'm no longer at ASU and I'm not on the house corp board) to tear down the fraternity houses that aren't in use that are by Sun Devil Stadium and Wells Fargo Arena and build sorority houses (not big ones though like U of A has). That might still be on the plate (mainly because more than half of those frats aren't in use and are just disgusting to look at from the outside. ASU really wants to clean up the image).

SigKapCoug 06-23-2007 04:10 AM

I am 99.5% sure the brothel law is just a rumor on all campuses.

If not, i'd like to see a copy of the law!

Densemonkey36 06-23-2007 08:50 AM

I know in Pennsylvania we have the brothel law too, but I don't know of any schools that do have sorority houses. So i don't know if they enforce it or not, or if schools don't want to take the chance.

My school has an all Greek dorm, but not all the houses are in it. Some houses are having issues with keeping numbers up to fill a floor, while other houses do have enough numbers, but have not been allowed to live there since the chapter is so new. And the administration feels that we (the new chapter) has to prove that we can keep our numbers up. So they have given us 1/2 of a floor in a regular dorm to fill up and we did, so hopefully they will let us move to the Greek dorm within the next year or two.

Low C Sharp 06-23-2007 10:22 AM

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I don't know of any schools that do have sorority houses
UPenn has had them for decades.
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Ocean View Condos

ISUKappa 06-23-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1472049)
I thought there was such a law in TN also. I know for a fact that there are other states such as South Carolina and Arizona that have the same such rules. I have a KD friend at Clemson and a sister at Arizona that were both RAs/officers in their sorority's "dorms". These dorms were owned by the Unversity and were esstentinaly dorm bulidings on campus that specfic sororities were allowed to use. This seems like an internresting alternative to such laws, even if it is not a house.

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Originally Posted by Densemonkey36 (Post 1472189)
I know in Pennsylvania we have the brothel law too, but I don't know of any schools that do have sorority houses. So i don't know if they enforce it or not, or if schools don't want to take the chance.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BROTHEL LAW

Snopes is your friend.

SigKapCoug 06-23-2007 01:54 PM

ISUKappa - um.... isn't that exactly what I said? I'm not an idiot, I know theres no brothel law.

ISUKappa 06-23-2007 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SigKapCoug (Post 1472261)
ISUKappa - um.... isn't that exactly what I said? I'm not an idiot, I know theres no brothel law.

Sorry - I got multiple quote happy. I was just scanning posts for "brothel law." So edited.

33girl 06-23-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Densemonkey36 (Post 1472189)
I know in Pennsylvania we have the brothel law too, but I don't know of any schools that do have sorority houses. So i don't know if they enforce it or not, or if schools don't want to take the chance.

My school has an all Greek dorm, but not all the houses are in it. Some houses are having issues with keeping numbers up to fill a floor, while other houses do have enough numbers, but have not been allowed to live there since the chapter is so new. And the administration feels that we (the new chapter) has to prove that we can keep our numbers up. So they have given us 1/2 of a floor in a regular dorm to fill up and we did, so hopefully they will let us move to the Greek dorm within the next year or two.

Where in PA (WHO DOES NOT HAVE A BROTHEL LAW) is this all-Greek dorm? I assume you're at a private school.

exlurker 08-19-2007 07:02 PM

Just an August 19 news update giving some $$$ estimates, projected completion dates, planned house sizes, quotes from alumnae, and more:

ttp://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/aug/19/a-substitute-home-since-the-1960s/

Tom Earp 08-22-2007 06:14 PM

Good, I worry about the costs and where it is located.

Can they afford it?

CarolinaDG 08-22-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 1334619)
From the UT website:
http://www.tennessee.edu/news/article.php?id=3854

"Fourteen of UT's 17 sorority chapters have submitted business pro formas and financial statements for individual facilities. Thirteen residential buildings and one non-residential building are planned on the approximately 21-acre site."

Does this mean that all of the NPC sororities are now planning on building traditional sorority houses? For a while there was talk that 6 NPCs would build traditional houses and the rest would build townhouses or stay in the current situation. There are 14 NPCs, so are 13 building houses and one building something else? I hope they are all considering building actual houses. It never seems to work well when housing is inequitable.

Please, God, tell me that this isn't going to be a repeat of USC... :(

AnatraAmore 08-22-2007 09:23 PM

For those of us who might be a little lost on the USC housing situation, can someone enlighten us?

CarolinaDG 08-23-2007 08:26 PM

Yeah, we have a good relationship with the UT greek life, so that makes sense... Hopefully they learned from us.


Long story short, and without revealing confidential information, when USC decided to build houses, they didn't have enough sites for all sororities/fraternities. So now, 8 out of the 9 sororities on campus have big, beautiful, multi-million dollar houses that they hold recruitment out of.

I just hope that if UT does this, they do some long-range planning and make sure that the option is there for all sororities to build eventually.

Silverblue 08-23-2007 08:27 PM

All the NPC groups will build houses. The land has been set aside.

CarolinaDG 08-23-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverblue (Post 1506966)
All the NPC groups will build houses. The land has been set aside.


Good. I must've misunderstood the first post, then. I thought it was saying that only 14 were building. :)

Silverblue 08-23-2007 08:33 PM

From what I understand, AKA will have a nonresident facility, but all the NPC chapters will have houses. I think ours will sleep 25-30.

MSKKG 08-23-2007 08:36 PM

From what I remember, USC promised that there would be sites available for any GLO that wanted to build (they may have been planning on a different area though). Somehow, they have found space for a lot of new houses in the Greek Village. In fact, the 9th sorority is building and may be through or close to finishing (not sure what they are doing for rush if they are not in their house yet). Not all groups were ready to build when the Greek Village came about, and some, realistically, either would not be ready for a long time or would never be able to build. Some of the older groups were even having to scurry to find $$, so it wasn't about size or longevity. Greek Life had been talking about building houses for 20+ years, so I guess everyone thought they were crying wolf!

The thing that bugged me was that Greek Life asked our opinions and just dismissed them. They were determined to have the antebellum mansions. A lot of us thought that a huge meeting room with a kitchen and maybe some bedrooms for the key officers would be sufficient, less costly, and easier to "sell" to the members. Oh, well. The Greek Village is a beautiful addition to USC's campus, but IMO a similar effect could have been obtained without the huge outlay of $$.

Silverblue 08-23-2007 08:39 PM

The cost does worry me. The price tag for our house is $2 million, and some are twice that. I'm afraid this will put Greek life out of reach for many girls.

CarolinaDG 08-23-2007 08:40 PM

You and I have a much different opinion of what went on, for obvious reasons...

Just keep in mind that you weren't a part of our house corp meetings and we weren't part of yours. ;)

But I believe that we've had this discussion before, so let's not hijack the original thread...

Silverblue 08-23-2007 08:47 PM

You must be thinking of someone else. I went to UT, not USC, and I graduated way back in 1989. I've never been to an HC meeting. I haven't posted here in a long time. All I know is what my chapter's newsletter tells me and the article my paper ran last Sunday. Plus, some of the UT chapters have info about the houses on their Web sites.


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Originally Posted by CarolinaDG (Post 1506973)
You and I have a much different opinion of what went on, for obvious reasons...

Just keep in mind that you weren't a part of our house corp meetings and we weren't part of yours. ;)

But I believe that we've had this discussion before, so let's not hijack the original thread...


CarolinaDG 08-23-2007 08:54 PM

That was in response to the Kappa. ;)

NutBrnHair 07-23-2012 03:06 PM

It's a reality...
 
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...nHair/Scan.jpg

shirley1929 07-23-2012 03:10 PM

Very cool! I wonder how they picked lots...drew straws?

DubaiSis 07-23-2012 03:23 PM

And it looks like there's room for expansion for 2 houses, next to DG and next to ZTA. Is that accurate? I haven't been there so I don't know the space in real life.

irishpipes 07-23-2012 05:29 PM

I wonder why this is just now being posted? AOII's house is almost done and should be ready for recruitment this fall. I think the groups are staggered a bit and some won't be ready until spring or next fall, but some are done/almost done.

NutBrnHair 07-23-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2161039)
I wonder why this is just now being posted?

I thought perhaps it had already been posted, but couldn't find it anywhere.

ShadeTree 07-23-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2161039)
I wonder why this is just now being posted? AOII's house is almost done and should be ready for recruitment this fall. I think the groups are staggered a bit and some won't be ready until spring or next fall, but some are done/almost done.

The most recent post on the UT website indicates that the AOII and Phi Mu houses are on hold due to contractor issues.

http://www.utk.edu/tntoday/tag/sorority-village/

exlurker 07-23-2012 05:54 PM

Please see a recent news report on NPC housing progress at UTK:

http://www.therepublic.com/view/stor...rority-Village

From previous news stories it appears that a couple of contractors had financial problems (not too surprising in these troubled economic times), so construction got delayed on some houses.

The report cited above says the houses that will open in the first phase are:

. . . chapters with houses opening in the first phase are
Delta Zeta,
Kappa Kappa Gamma,
Alpha Chi Omega,
Kappa Delta,
Delta Delta Delta,
Alpha Delta Pi and
Sigma Kappa.”

Hope all this hasn't been posted already; I didn't see it anywhere and I did search............

amIblue? 07-23-2012 05:55 PM

I just read an article that 6 of the groups have begun move in and will be hosting recruitment in their houses. The remaining chapters will be hosting recruitment in the panhellenic building with bus service provided between the two locations. I'll rummage around and see if I can find it for posting.

This is not the article that I read earlier, but it is directly from the university. It states that seven houses will be opening this semester. I'll keep looking.

http://www.utk.edu/tntoday/2012/07/17/sorority-village-welcomes-fall-semester/


http://www.utk.edu/tntoday/2012/07/1...llage-project/

FSUZeta 07-23-2012 06:00 PM

How exciting for them!

NutBrnHair 07-23-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2161049)
I just read an article that 6 of the groups have begun move in and will be hosting recruitment in their houses. The remaining chapters will be hosting recruitment in the panhellenic building with bus service provided between the two locations. I'll rummage around and see if I can find it for posting.

I heard that the plan with the buses will not be decided until August 1.

amIblue? 07-23-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2161059)
I heard that the plan with the buses will not be decided until August 1.

Actually, the first article that I posted from UT's website states that transportation will be going between the two locations.

"Sorority fall recruitment is set for August 19—26 at the Panhellenic Building on Cumberland Avenue and at the completed properties within Sorority Village, with transportation provided between the two locations."

I assume it will be buses.

My personal opinion is that they should hold recruitment one last time in the Panhellenic building, at least until almost all 13 sororities are in their houses. That being said, three of the strongest recruiting chapters will not have their houses available, and I don't think that will impact those chapters poorly at all.

Cheerio 07-24-2012 05:23 PM

In the other GC thread (with drawings) about new UTN sorority housing I noticed part of AOII's roof had an unusual two-or-three story steep curve. It looked like it could catch rainwater above/near the front entrance. Is this some kind of 'green' housing required by the university?

NutBrnHair 07-24-2012 07:48 PM

Hooked on Fonics
 
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Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2161327)
In the other GC thread (with drawings) about new UTN sorority housing I noticed part of AOII's roof had an unusual two-or-three story steep curve. It looked like it could catch rainwater above/near the front entrance. Is this some kind of 'green' housing required by the university?

UTN... I love that so much.

amIblue? 07-24-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2161387)
UTN... I love that so much.

I know, right? (as I mutter about which is the REAL UT and which one was founded while the other one was still part of Mexico)

MaryPoppins 07-24-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2161403)
I know, right? (as I mutter about which is the REAL UT and which one was founded while the other one was still part of Mexico)

/Swerve

No orange in this Rebel house. Here under this roof, UTN is spoken of as "that school which shall not be named." When Sandra Bullock made that crack about UTN orange in "The Blind Side," the whole theater turned around cause my DH was dying, laughing so hard he almost rolled into the aisle. You see he thought I was alone in this boycott, but he learned better.

Swerve/

amIblue? 07-24-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MaryPoppins (Post 2161408)
/Swerve

No orange in this Rebel house. Here under this roof, UTN is spoken of as "that school which shall not be named." When Sandra Bullock made that crack about UTN orange in "The Blind Side," the whole theater turned around cause my DH was dying, laughing so hard he almost rolled into the aisle. You see he thought I was alone in this boycott, but he learned better.

Swerve/

Yeah, I don't know any UT fans who feel that way about Ole Miss.

AnchorAlumna 07-25-2012 12:58 AM

UTN?
WTH?
I still can't get used to UTK.

AOII Angel 07-25-2012 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2161455)
UTN?
WTH?
I still can't get used to UTK.

UT-Noxville ;) or UT-North I don't know...

MaryPoppins 07-25-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2161467)
UT-Noxville ;) or UT-North I don't know...

I think it must be "UT-North" Which now seems wrong somehow now that I think of it.


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