Why do people assume these men are all privileged? Because they go to Duke? Because they play lax?

As a Duke alum I am just curious.

In general, lacrosse is a sport that's seen more for the privileged. It's expensive to play, b/c of all the gear, and many times is only available at schools that would be considered "privileged". In my area, only the wealthier public and some of the privates offered lacrosse. Actually, I just read an artible about that very subject in relation to this case, but I can't remember where, about how lacrosse is trying to change it's image.

It's expensive to play? How does the price of LAX gear compare to football equipment? How about hockey gear?

-Rudey

This is true. Though football is just as expensive, if not more expensive than lacrosse but is not considered to be played by the more privileged. Just big roid ragers.

I'm just going by what the article cited as reasons. They compared it to baseball and soccer as being a lot more expensive for the pads, stick, etc. (though, like you, I did think about football).

Also, football is much more of a cash cow, even for the HS level. It's a costly sport, but it bring in the bucks as well.

Soccer shouldn't be considered expensive because you don't have to worry about steroid cost, unlike football or baseball

It's funny how so many schools carry only major sports activities. If you do fencing, golf, squash, water polo, lacrosse, or wrestling you've gotta be rich. All these sports have that image and there are clubs across the country that are trying to change it but I doubt it'll go away ever.

-Rudey

I guess it's hard, from a budget standpoint, for most schools. Though wrestling is pretty big in PA, nearly every school as a team. There are only so many sports a school can fund.

Found the article about lacrosse that I read yesterday:
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=1784378&page=1

I didn't know water polo was considered a privileged sport. In HS, it was really popular. Just about every HS had a team. Probably because of the weather though.

Weather and geography, i'm sure. In New England, i'm sure most schools have an ice hockey team but you'd probably rarely, if ever, hear of a HS hocket team south of the Mason-Dixon line. Out your way, water polo is common, but around here, it's pretty much unheard of.

Exactly.

About lacrosse. My friends in HS (and a few of my bros in college) were in the lacrosse "club" not team. Lacrosse is just not a big enough thing out here the way it is out there.

It should be though. Our weather allows it, much better than you guys. One day it should get bigger though I guess. But that means more New England tranplants. Ick

It really does vary by region. In the Boston area, several public high schools have ski teams and sailing teams (not just clubs). Crew teams are limited to the independent schools of which there are many in the area. When I was in school in the Dark Ages, only boys had lax and ice hockey. Now high schools have girls' teams for both as well.

In the DC area, crew is very much a part of high school (public and private). They are designated as hs clubs, not sports so kids pay $$$ to row or cox for their school.

Rich, poor, whatever, pretty much every kid around here plays LAX at one point. All of the public high schools have teams and it's insanely popular. Much like football is in my native SW Pennsylvania (well, maybe not quite THAT crazy. But close).

I't s not the sport -- it's that they go to Duke. Going to Duke (or a school like it) is a privledge. Going to any school that accepts 15% or fewer of their applicants is a privledge. Not only that, but we'd be lying to ourselves if we didn't recognize that most of the kids who go to competitive private colleges are have affluent parents. It's the nature of the society in which we live.

You've talked in the past about not coming from money but you went to a private college. So are you "priviledged"?

Either way, nobody here knows the background of these kids. They could be poor and got athletic scholarships to go to school there and play lax or rich and priviledged.

-Rudey

I hate you:D

Yes.
I'm super lucky, and I would be stupid and lying if I didn't admit it. I mean, going to medical school itself is a privledge.

These kids are lucky enough to play a sport at a top college in the US -- that itself makes them privledged.

You're not lucky; you're obviously very intelligent and you worked your a$$ off to get into and stay in medical school. Don't sell yourself short.

I disagree. I knew many kids on financial aid at Carnegie Mellon and similar schools. It's the priorities one sets for themselves to pay for private education for their children whether during the college and/or K-12 years.

And for those of you who haven't done a FAFSA lately, you'll be in for a surprise. The US Department of Education must think the middle class are millionaires!

I think she's lucky.

-Rudey
--I think anyone that goes to school on an athletic or merit scholarship, earned it, hence the scholarship.

What a bunch of rapist pigs.

Let me take a moment to provide a public service announcement to everybody on GC.

THE POLICE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. PROSECUTORS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.

Don't talk to the police. If I had $1 for every client who was told by some good-cop acting all buddy buddy "Oh hey, just tell me what happened and you can go home" I'd be able to bail their sorry asses out of the joint right now.

Any defense attorney worth a shit will tell his or her clients to STFU. Any defense attorney worth a shit isn't going to say anything to anybody unless it's going to get some good publicity for the client, which is unlikely in most cases.

I have never, ever in my life told a client to talk to the police. Never. It's not done (which, to get off topic for a second, is why Law and Order drives me batshit). Period. Clients don't talk to police, prosecutors, or the press unless you're Johnny Freaking Cochran. I know they're not all bad, but I've seen cops lie under oath in court. You never, ever know how anything you say will be used against you, and therefore it is best to not say anything.

For the most part, that's true. There are exceptions that you didn't mention though. For example, if your client is a public figure and his or her reputation is important to their income, it's helpful to at least be cooperative with the media insofar as getting your client's side of the story as much air time/news print as the other side is getting.

A few months ago, my father represented a platinum-selling recording artist (from the 90's) in a child-custody related matter where he was accused of being a dead-beat dad. It was front page/lead story material (very damaging to him) until we had some brief conversations with the reporters assigned to the story after which, due to the fact that the ex-wife is a lying hoe-bag-she-devil, the story disappeared and our client has actually been getting a few gigs here and there since (I think the brief publicity may have actually helped).

At any rate, I do see some lawyers representing clients only to get face-time on TV and to see their names in print (see Gloria Allred). Such individuals should be censored in my opinion by their respective Bar associations.

The coach has resigned and the season has been cancelled.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story...813162&ATT=230

Why aren't the DNA results available yet?

Either charge these guys and deal with a problem or clear them and stop making a fuss.

-Rudey

I believe they are expected to be ready this week...this week is almost over, so we'll see.

If you tell them "I'm not speaking without my lawyer", and don't say anything after that, do they have the right to keep you in the inter room (provided you haven't already been charged with anything) until your lawyer comes, or do you have the right to leave?

I know there's probably 100 different answers, but I've always wondered about those scenes in L&O where they're like "If you don't have anyting else for me, I'm not speaking unless my lawyers here, so you gonna charge me with anything or can I go?"

LOL I think I saw on L&O that they can hold you for 24 hours without filing a charge?

-Rudey

Pretty much every state has a huge backlog of DNA samples that have yet to be analyzed because the state funds aren't there to process them. Some DNA samples sit on the shelves for at least two years.

In a unrelated case in Illinois in the death Riley Fox, her father's DNA sample was put in the state queue. This man sat in jail for at least 6 months to a year I think waiting for the results. It costs his family $250,000 out of their own pocket to have the sample analyzed quicker that the states schedule.

Should the lacrosse teams samples receive priority over other cases going on in the state?

They are Gone along with Coach!;)

Maybe some truth?:rolleyes:

According to this article the DA told reporters he does not intend to publicly release the DNA evidence.

Rudey!!!
 

Either way, if she's an exotic dancer or a prostitute--those boys outta be more concerned with the girl's pimp... 'Cuz ain't nobody slap a hoe around unless their name is "Daddy"...

Didn't you watch the Dave Chappelle Show?

Re: Rudey!!!
 

You know what? I didn't even think of that.

Seriously those drivers or pimps or whatever are scary thick-necked folks. Were the heck is the dude in charge?

-Rudey

I know you think this is an insult, but I just see it differently. Yeah, I did work my butt off to get here, yeah I am working my butt off while I am here so I can be a great dr, but that doesn't mean I'm not lucky. I get the opporunity to have one of the best jobs on the planet (in my opinion!). I work of course, but that's part of the deal. It isn't "selling myself short" -- I worked for what I have, but it doesn't make me less privledged to have it.

Getting a scholarship, getting into a good program, earning awards -- all privledges. People than have a responsibility in return to use them well.

Please learn to spell PRIVILEGE properly...it just kills any point you are trying to make about working hard at school and scholarships...

I'm not sure if maybe you're book smart or you had something else going for you that brought you luck (sports, minority status, first in your family to go to college, from a non-feeder state, or just nice boobs or something).

I'm of the opinion that I worked for what I got and that's that.

-Rudey

Yes, well they indicated when the samples would be finished and then said they wouldn't release it publicly after they said they would.

I mean the entire situation stinks of a DA that is trying to frame the situation as guilty early on.

-Rudey

If she was book smart Rudey she would be able to spell...I'm just saying...

That is incredibly untrue. There are many extremely book smart people that can't spell. It's just one of those things... Example: Some people are horrible at math, but they could give you a detailed timeline of every battle of WWII. And other people couldn't name one battle of the civil war, but could calculate Pi to 38265413064 decimal places.