Well you're correct in the assesment that some men just don't think there won't be any consequences for their actions. I'm always amazed when I hear men complain about baby mamma drama and having to pay huge amounts of child support then turn around and impregnate another woman starting the same vicious cycle of foolishness over again w/ a different woman. I believe this lack of sound judgment stems from having little or no positive male figures in their lives couple that w/ females who are straved for male attention and you have a bad situation.

So let me break down the arguement so it can make sense to me because in my opinion, you are saying something that may be a "break though" that I have not realized:

So you know guys, who "pay" child support for their children. My question is how come they do it if that is not what they wanted in the first place? Because the "courts" make them or do they do it because they actually do feel "obligated"? So then what's the complaints? Because they have to pay it? So who told them having children are cheap? Where did that logic come from? I always knew that children are not cheap... Crap for children are not cheap...

I guess my mentality as teen was, unless the little boy was a king, that owned his own country with his face on the money, there was no way I was going to have his baby... Besides, my daddy took better care of me than this foolish little boy... That was my thinking. So no way no how was 30 seconds of lust worth it for a lifetime of regrets... The child I would not regret, but being in that situation at a teen, I would regret... How come my thinking is wrong? What am I missing?

So what you are saying is that some men will maintain the fact that they are "allergic" to latex? So how are sexually transmitted infections controlled? Aren't they concerned about contracting STI's or HIV--besides impregnanting a woman?

Are their self-esteems that low that throwing seeds out are that important to them?

I really am unclear on this concept?

Now, I am going to disagree with some of that. Because we've been talking about this lunacy for years. In fact, several great men who have very sound judgement did not have "father figures" in the households. And women who have all the male attention in the world still get pregnant.

I think that people lack responsibility and accountability--like what others are saying here--this instant gratification factor. And it is killing us and alot of other people. Folks do not want to take on the responsibility and definitely do not want to be held accountable. No one wants to be the "bad guy" who made the "bad decision" or "tough call". But we wind up doing it anyway--so we may as well, accept our decision the fact we made a choice, and try to move forward making it better for ourselves...

The issue is with the child... Period...

A person should walk in the door knowing what kind of situation he or she is getting into and then decide if he or she can deal with it.

But most people don't think like that. Most folks act impulsively and probably reactively than proactively.

The consequences of actions--future thinking... How do you see yourself if this situation happenend, etc.

I'd expect silly thinking from kids, but I am amazed to see it from "so called" adults. I guess I rather "jaded" in my thinking.

I believe it's a combination of many of the things that you mentioned.....as for your statement that you would expect that silly thinking from kids not adults...adults have been shooting bad w/ their decision making since 1991 in my opinion...that's seems to be when it all fell apart.

I Timothy 5:8
 

The men leaving their children should read this scripture and understand they curse themselves by becoming an infidel. Webster says that an infidel has no relationship with God and no belief in God...you cannot survive or thrive in that place. Please check out this scripture and go right down the list of men you know who have left their children and households...they usually do not do well financially, physically, or spiritually.

Please pass this on because most of us simply do not understand the importance of taking care our families.

I think the both parties baby mamas and baby daddys should work on their relationships w/God.....besides if something starts out bad (having children out of wedlock) if usually ends up bad (somebody not living up to their end.)

I would first like to know the source of the orginal stats.

There are several sources here's one Child trends data bank.org

I know it's somewhat hard to believe but it is that bad... too many baby daddys and baby mamas but not enough husbands & wives

Amen -my students look at me real strange when I say I don't have any children-and then they ask why- and I say that I have to be married to do so!