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HotDamnImAPhiMu 03-23-2006 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by macallan25
I joined a very good fraternity on my campus, took 18 hours, worked at a golf course, had a 3.6 gpa....and never missed a meeting, party, etc. during my pledge year. Your post is borderline idiotic.
You know what this makes me think of? Advice columns in newspapers. There's forever a letter from some girl who writes in, "I'm beautiful, I make a lot of money, I'm smart, I'm funny, WHY WILL NO ONE DATE ME?"

adpiucf 03-23-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
You know what this makes me think of? Advice columns in newspapers. There's forever a letter from some girl who writes in, "I'm beautiful, I make a lot of money, I'm smart, I'm funny, WHY WILL NO ONE DATE ME?"
LMAO. Because on the first date, she tells the guy, "I want you to know... I'm now ready for the reproductive phase of my life."

Sorry, Bachelor segue... :D

ILP-- good luck with CR! Let us know how you make out.

rhochi2002 03-23-2006 11:51 AM

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xoheatherxo

so why is my post idiotic? thats great that you did all those things, but face it, for most college kids its impossible to manage that much stuff. maybe it was your major? mine was way to hard to do all that.
I hate to bet a dead horse but you are wrong. Plenty of people manage to do all that and more. Even if your major is extremely difficult, you can hold a job and be greek. It's all about time management! I think it is great if you do not have to work while in college but alot of students do. I am sure that you do not study 24 hrs a day... I bet alot of kids that do not work spend those hours doing something else not school related.
In fact on of my favorite examples is the president of my chapter my senior year. She had a job, a great GPA and believe me she worked for it, she was involved in more clubs than anyone I knew, she was inducted in to the leadership honorary fraternity and went on to become a CDC and is now a different national officer and employed at HQ. She was the typical overachiever but you really don't have to be an over achiever, just able to plan your time efficiently and occasionally make sacrifices.

kddani 03-23-2006 11:55 AM

The vast majority of my sisters (including myself) worked, did the sorority stuff, did well in school and were involved in other groups.

Not everyone has parents willing to pay for their social activities, and many students have to work to pay the bills or earn spending money.

But I will say... find a better job that'll give you some experience at something, if even just an office environment, and something better for your resume than working in campus dining.

amanda6035 03-23-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by macallan25
I joined a very good fraternity on my campus, took 18 hours, worked at a golf course, had a 3.6 gpa....and never missed a meeting, party, etc. during my pledge year. Your post is borderline idiotic.
I very much agree with this. I get EXTREMELY irritated with people who "waste" their time. In 2 1/2 years I have only missed 1 chapter meeting, and it was because I flew out of town to see my long distance military boyfriend before he went out to sea for a long period of time. I only take 12/13 hours worth of classes, but I work 25 hours, AND I'm involved in 2 other organizations on campus (one being student government, the other a professional IT organization). People who can't (or rather, don't) manage their time effectively get on my nerves - especially when they come into chapter whining and complaining about how busy they are. Guess what, we're all busy, so if you're looking for sympathy, you're barking up the wrong tree.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 03-23-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I very much agree with this. I get EXTREMELY irritated with people who "waste" their time. In 2 1/2 years I have only missed 1 chapter meeting, and it was because I flew out of town to see my long distance military boyfriend before he went out to sea for a long period of time. I only take 12/13 hours worth of classes, but I work 25 hours, AND I'm involved in 2 other organizations on campus (one being student government, the other a professional IT organization). People who can't (or rather, don't) manage their time effectively get on my nerves - especially when they come into chapter whining and complaining about how busy they are. Guess what, we're all busy, so if you're looking for sympathy, you're barking up the wrong tree.

Meow!

Kevin 03-23-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by macallan25
I joined a very good fraternity on my campus, took 18 hours, worked at a golf course, had a 3.6 gpa....and never missed a meeting, party, etc. during my pledge year. Your post is borderline idiotic.
Not necessarily. Obviously, your employer worked with your schedule. At one time, I had one full time job and two part time jobs while being the L.C. (#2 guy) for my chapter while we were putting together the final application for our charter.

Right now, I'm in law school, I work full time (don't tell the A.B.A.), volunteer on weekends for the Department of Human Services, and am planning a wedding.

I agree that time management can be done. The thing is that you have to have the different things on your schedule be compatible. If I my job told me I had to be at work to prepare discovery or trial exhibits and that I had to miss one of my classes, something would have to give.

All I'm saying (and others) is that while in college, we're preparing for our future careers. In most cases, the job we're in is doing nothing to accomplish that end. As college students, we must think in terms of our long term best interests. I'm of the opinion that jobs in college are fairly interchangable and if one isn't willing to work with your schedule, you can find another which will. It sounded like the original poster's job was being unreasonable (although, upon further examination, she just needs to learn to make the word "no" a reflex when being asked to take on additional responsibilities at work).

pinkiebell1001 03-23-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Meow!
LOL- that was my exact thought when i read her post;)

chio84 03-23-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I very much agree with this. I get EXTREMELY irritated with people who "waste" their time. In 2 1/2 years I have only missed 1 chapter meeting, and it was because I flew out of town to see my long distance military boyfriend before he went out to sea for a long period of time. I only take 12/13 hours worth of classes, but I work 25 hours, AND I'm involved in 2 other organizations on campus (one being student government, the other a professional IT organization). People who can't (or rather, don't) manage their time effectively get on my nerves - especially when they come into chapter whining and complaining about how busy they are. Guess what, we're all busy, so if you're looking for sympathy, you're barking up the wrong tree.
maybe i can understand you getting annoyed when these kinds of people complain, but does it really affect you at all if someone wants to waste time? i like wasting time. chill out and stop judging people.

"the time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." - bertrand russell

valkyrie 03-23-2006 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Meow!
LOL. I had a very busy drinking schedule when I was in college, but I never complained about it.

adpiucf 03-23-2006 01:02 PM

Different strokes for different folks. Some of us can't imagine not working our way through school, others have more flexibility because they don't have to work. How we choose to spend our time is our own business, whether we work or don't work. No one is wrong. Just different circumstances.

And it is up to each individual and their financial situation and time management skills to determine what's best for them. Not our job to judge.

/Eagerly anticipating an update from the OP

KSigkid 03-23-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by adpiucf
Different strokes for different folks. Some of us can't imagine not working our way through school, others have more flexibility because they don't have to work. How we choose to spend our time is our own business, whether we work or don't work. No one is wrong. Just different circumstances.

And it is up to each individual and their financial situation and time management skills to determine what's best for them. Not our job to judge.

/Eagerly anticipating an update from the OP

Exactly - and telling others how it "should" be in that situation doesn't work, because every situation is different.

I_Love_Penguins 03-23-2006 01:14 PM

I'm so confused by some of these abbreviations. OP? GDI? Clarify please.

I don't feel my job had been inflexible. Like I said, when I went in to get my schedule, they ASKED me to work...they didn't say I had to. I said yes when I could've easily said no, but I said yes partly because I need whatever money I can get, and partly because I knew that they needed staff to cover shifts and were scrambling to do so in the hour or two they had before day shift left and night shift took over. I don't see how my willingness to work is my job being inflexible, but that's OK. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I didn't think people would get so worked up. :(

AlphaFrog 03-23-2006 01:23 PM

OP - Original Poster - in this case, you
GDI- God Damned Independant (non-greek)
GLO - Greek Letter Org (you didn't ask about it, but I threw it in for free anyway)

rhochi2002 03-23-2006 01:33 PM

I guess I get what the OP is saying.
She orginally asked to work on tuesdays so that was her planned day to work anyways. Also there are times, that you just can not say no to the extra income, especially since the meeting was just an interest meeting. While I would never have missed a rush event when I was a PNM if I could help it. I did skip a interest meeting.

adpiucf 03-23-2006 01:35 PM

I_Love_Penguins, Adding onto the acronym chain, I have shortened your name to ILP! :)

SmartBlondeGPhB 03-23-2006 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by chio84
maybe i can understand you getting annoyed when these kinds of people complain, but does it really affect you at all if someone wants to waste time? i like wasting time. chill out and stop judging people.

"the time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." - bertrand russell

If it's also wasting MY time, yes it does affect me.

It's also rude.

AChiOhSnap 03-23-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by I_Love_Penguins
KDDani, that's what I thought too. But I was told today that some of the sororities here will be taking 2nd pledge classes. The pledging period would be 2 and a half weeks instead of 4-6 weeks. I'm not sure why they are doing this now as I don't know if they've done it in the past. Oh well. I am just glad to be getting another chance no matter how I have to do it.
I'm so excited for you! Good luck with this new chance... maybe you want to continue posting updates back in your original rush thread? It seems as though this thread was deleted for awhile and just recently brought back (I posted my response to your initial post back in February) and so obviously things are very different for you now. I think people are getting confused by the title of the thread vs. the content of the discussion and that's the only reason I suggest that you start posting back in recruitment stories.

I can't WAIT to hear updates! <3

UKDaisy 03-23-2006 05:31 PM

hey ILP I pm'd you! :)

KillarneyRose 03-24-2006 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I very much agree with this. I get EXTREMELY irritated with people who "waste" their time. In 2 1/2 years I have only missed 1 chapter meeting, and it was because I flew out of town to see my long distance military boyfriend before he went out to sea for a long period of time.

If someone had wanted to be a hardass about it, they could have given you flack for going to visit your boyfriend before he went underway instead of going to that meeting.

It was a waste of time. Sure, maybe you had the chance to give him a little pre-deployment nookie but at the end of the day, it's not like you were able to stuff him into your suitcase to keep him from going, right? It was just nuts of you to ruin your perfect record within your sisterhood over a boy. What a waste of time.

AlphaFrog 03-24-2006 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
If someone had wanted to be a hardass about it, they could have given you flack for going to visit your boyfriend before he went underway instead of going to that meeting.

It was a waste of time. Sure, maybe you had the chance to give him a little pre-deployment nookie but at the end of the day, it's not like you were able to stuff him into your suitcase to keep him from going, right? It was just nuts of you to ruin your perfect record within your sisterhood over a boy. What a waste of time.

:D :D Nice.

AlphaFrog 03-24-2006 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Well, think about it. What did the Recording Secretary write next to her name when she missed that meeting? "Booty call"? "Servicing the Navy?" "Providing aid and comfort?"
I think a simple yellow ribbon saying "Supporting Our Troops" would work - actually make that a yellow condom saying "Supporting Our Troops".

KillarneyRose 03-24-2006 10:39 AM

You're as bad as I am! lol :D

AlphaFrog 03-24-2006 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
You're as bad as I am! lol :D
I learned from the best. Look what years chatting with 33 & KR get you!;) ;) :D

amanda6035 03-24-2006 11:56 AM

Wow, the ignore feature is such a great thing. Too bad you cant use it on bitchy moderators who have personal issues. KR, if I've done something in the past to completely offend you in order to force you to be a effin bitch to me every single time I post, I sincerely apologize...........

AlphaFrog 03-24-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Wow, the ignore feature is such a great thing. Too bad you cant use it on bitchy moderators who have personal issues. KR, if I've done something in the past to completely offend you in order to force you to be a effin bitch to me every single time I post, I sincerely apologize...........
LOL!! I'm just glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this. Bad KR, BAD KR!!:p ;) :D

Buttonz 03-24-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose

It was a waste of time. Sure, maybe you had the chance to give him a little pre-deployment nookie but at the end of the day, it's not like you were able to stuff him into your suitcase to keep him from going, right? It was just nuts of you to ruin your perfect record within your sisterhood over a boy. What a waste of time.



Are you serious?

AlphaFrog 03-24-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by Buttonz
Are you serious?
Are YOU serious?:p

pinkiebell1001 03-24-2006 02:58 PM

ok...I just caught up on the last two pages, and yall are crazy;) I almost fell out of my chair from laughing!

PhiMuAmberkins 03-24-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Wow, the ignore feature is such a great thing. Too bad you cant use it on bitchy moderators who have personal issues. KR, if I've done something in the past to completely offend you in order to force you to be a effin bitch to me every single time I post, I sincerely apologize...........
Maybe if you didn't make yourself sound stupid, nobody would be that way towards you.

Just a thought.

AlphaFrog 03-24-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by PhiMuAmberkins
Maybe if you didn't make yourself sound stupid, nobody would be that way towards you.

Just a thought.

*HEART*

amanda6035 03-24-2006 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by PhiMuAmberkins
Maybe if you didn't make yourself sound stupid, nobody would be that way towards you.

Just a thought.

How do I make myself "sound stupid?" Because my thoughts and opinions are different from yours? I need to go find the "What I learned on greekchat" thread and enter "different=stupid"
:rolleyes:

James 03-24-2006 04:57 PM

We should all play nice.

Although I agree that you shouldn't have missed a meeting for a little nookie. Men wouldn't have been as sympathetic to a brother that did that.

My opinion here is mild and lazy . . I wouldn't have gotten real excited about you missing the meeting. Just would have thought it curious that someone with perfect attendance would blow off a meeting for something like that.

amanda6035 03-24-2006 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by James
We should all play nice.

Although I agree that you shouldn't have missed a meeting for a little nookie. Men wouldn't have been as sympathetic to a brother that did that.

My opinion here is mild and lazy . . I wouldn't have gotten real excited about you missing the meeting. Just would have thought it curious that someone with perfect attendance would blow off a meeting for something like that.

It's because he lives in Virginia and I live in Atlanta. Most weekends he has to work (duty) or, I'm involved in other sorority stuff. We have to take the time we can. It's ridiculous. Every semester when I get the completed sorority calendar, I call him up and we mark on our calendars when he has duty and when i have sorority stuff. From there, whatever weekends we have "free" are when we get to spend together. If he had been just down the road, there would have been no questions to it - I would have been at chapter. But when I was buying my plane tickets to go to VA and back, I either had to leave at the ass crack of dawn on Sunday morning, or take a later flight that wouldnt quite bring be back to ATL in time to make it to the meeting. Because he was leaving for deployment, I made the decision to take the later flight.

I don't see why it's turned into as big a deal as everyone is making it. Unless you yourself have 100% attendance to everything (meetings, philanthropies, socials, open house, recruitment events, chapter retreats, etc etc etc) how DARE someone look down on me. Those of you who are have sick minds if you're just looking at it as a booty call. I've got more pride in myself than to treat my relationships as a piece of ass.

James 03-24-2006 05:09 PM

I never missed anything.

But I am not mocking you, just presenting an opinion.

And well . . there is nothing wrong with getting alittle nookie. Seriously, don't knock it, its like one of my favorite things ;)

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Originally posted by amanda6035
It's because he lives in Virginia and I live in Atlanta. Most weekends he has to work (duty) or, I'm involved in other sorority stuff. We have to take the time we can. It's ridiculous. Every semester when I get the completed sorority calendar, I call him up and we mark on our calendars when he has duty and when i have sorority stuff. From there, whatever weekends we have "free" are when we get to spend together. If he had been just down the road, there would have been no questions to it - I would have been at chapter. But when I was buying my plane tickets to go to VA and back, I either had to leave at the ass crack of dawn on Sunday morning, or take a later flight that wouldnt quite bring be back to ATL in time to make it to the meeting. Because he was leaving for deployment, I made the decision to take the later flight.

I don't see why it's turned into as big a deal as everyone is making it. Unless you yourself have 100% attendance to everything (meetings, philanthropies, socials, open house, recruitment events, chapter retreats, etc etc etc) how DARE someone look down on me. Those of you who are have sick minds if you're just looking at it as a booty call. I've got more pride in myself than to treat my relationships as a piece of ass.


kddani 03-24-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I don't see why it's turned into as big a deal as everyone is making it. Unless you yourself have 100% attendance to everything (meetings, philanthropies, socials, open house, recruitment events, chapter retreats, etc etc etc) how DARE someone look down on me. Those of you who are have sick minds if you're just looking at it as a booty call. I've got more pride in myself than to treat my relationships as a piece of ass.
Ummm... you're the one who turned it into a big deal by a) not getting the joke/sarcasm of KR's posts and b) not getting the irony of your original post in relation to your own missing a meeting. If you want to talk so harshly, prepare to have your own experiences (that you volunteered) examined.

KSigkid 03-24-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I don't see why it's turned into as big a deal as everyone is making it. Unless you yourself have 100% attendance to everything (meetings, philanthropies, socials, open house, recruitment events, chapter retreats, etc etc etc) how DARE someone look down on me. Those of you who are have sick minds if you're just looking at it as a booty call. I've got more pride in myself than to treat my relationships as a piece of ass.
It seems, at least to me, that your first post in the thread was a tad judgemental. I think that's why others have posted in the same way in responding to you.

I'll stick by what I said earlier - people have their own things going on in their lives, and it's not up to any of us to judge.

PhiMuAmberkins 03-24-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
How do I make myself "sound stupid?" Because my thoughts and opinions are different from yours? I need to go find the "What I learned on greekchat" thread and enter "different=stupid"
:rolleyes:

How do I make myself "sound stupid?"

Hey, you asked…

1. You called a moderator, nay, a person, “bitchy.” You catch more bees with honey than with vinegar, sweetheart.

2. You brag about not missing a chapter meeting in 2 ½ years. And you give a good excuse. I would have missed too. But then, instead of being secure enough in your decision, and laughing off the “booty call” jokes, you assume that people who see it ass a booty call have “sick minds.” And, let us not forget that you have “got more pride in myself than to treat my relationships as a piece of ass.” Apparently, however, you aren’t secure enough in that relationship that isn’t about a piece of ass to take jokes for just that…jokes.

3. How people spend their time is no concern of yours. If they are wasting your time, that’s fine. But other people not managing their time effectively isn’t your concern. And you must not have many friends, because friendships are about listening. You may think that what I have to say isn’t important, or that it’s my own fault, but you understand that I’m upset, and you listen. If that wastes your time then say so…since your time is so valuable.

4. Not to put too personal of a slant on it, but I take 16 hours a semester (that’s the average, going from 14 to 19 over 6 semesters), I work 2 jobs, totaling about 20 hours a week, I’m an RA, in 3 other organizations, and I have a boyfriend who’s long-distance too. Other people are busy too…it’s not just you.

5. You take things way too seriously. This is not a personal attack on you…it’s a forum. Not everyone will agree with you. I think you sounded stupid, not because you were different, but because you got off topic and you made yourself sound like an ass. I’m all about diversity and differences and repeated singings of “It’s a Small World.” But you gotta learn to laugh at yourself too.

Sorry this was off-topic…I just can’t not answer a question like that.

amanda6035 03-24-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by PhiMuAmberkins

2. You brag about not missing a chapter meeting in 2 ½ years. And you give a good excuse. I would have missed too. But then, instead of being secure enough in your decision, and laughing off the “booty call” jokes, you assume that people who see it ass a booty call have “sick minds.” And, let us not forget that you have “got more pride in myself than to treat my relationships as a piece of ass.” Apparently, however, you aren’t secure enough in that relationship that isn’t about a piece of ass to take jokes for just that…jokes.

When it looks like a joke, I'll treat it as a joke. If it comes across as an attack, it's hard to laugh it off as a joke.

PhiMuAmberkins 03-24-2006 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
When it looks like a joke, I'll treat it as a joke. If it comes across as an attack, it's hard to laugh it off as a joke.
Can someone really attack you on a message board? And why would people who don't know you attack you? It was a JOKE. And even if it wasn't, remember what Eleanor Roosevelt said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." You let them make you feel attacked...you basically gave them permission to get at you.

And this is amazingly off-topic. Sorry to everyone who was on topic and wishes we would get back there!


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